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Official: Mexico not in danger of collapse ('Make your prediction here! thread)
AP on Yahoo ^ | 3/26/09 | Pam Hess - ap

Posted on 03/26/2009 1:55:02 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON – The Mexican government is not on the verge of collapse, the top U.S. intelligence official said Thursday, seeking to tamp down increasing alarm over the powerful and violent drug cartels operating in the country that is the United States' southern neighbor.

"Mexico is in no danger of becoming a failed state," said National Intelligence Director Dennis Blair at his first news conference Thursday.

Echoing the assessment of Mexico's leaders, Blair said the dramatic increase in killings in Mexico is a result of that government's crackdown on drug cartels.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Mexico; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 200903; aliens; amnesty; bho44; bhomexico; collapse; danger; dennisblair; fastandfurious; fastnfurious; immigration; mexico; narcoterrorism
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To: B-Chan

No way...Jose!

I do not want Mexico’s northern (and mainly poorest) states to become part of the US...that would be an economic catastrophie bigger than any Obama could create

We would have to give welfare to most of them...because most are uneducated or undereducated....and I definitely do not want a former Mexican taking a job away from a hard-working American...or have hard-working Americans subsidize Third Worlders

Mexico’s economy is weak....its per capita GDP is low, and gets lower every day. Millions have lost their jobs...many shipped off to Communist China (in return, Communist China supplies the pseudophedrine so the Mex’s can cook up crystal meth)

If you really want to fix this Mexico crisis...you must:

1. Abrogate NAFTA, esp all parts pertaining to Mexico (Free Trade has failed in Mexico....millions have lost jobs and/or ability to sustain selves). NAFTA also enables the drug cartels easier access over the border...allowing them to use “trade rules” to compromise the system (esp with Mexican trucking companies)

2. Deport all illegals....and prevent any new illegals from arriving. You do not destroy America while Mexico collapses

3. Execute all violent illegal alien Mexicans confined in US prisons. Most are involved in drugs and gangs...and would put fear into the cartels....note that Mexico has no death penalty...and the cartels have no fear of being executed for violent crimes in Mexico. Start executing the cartels and gangs...and you begin to turn the tide.

4. Strong US military presence on the Mexican border...and armed with nukes. If the Mexican govt and/or drug cartels try to invade the US border (trust meither)...I want to be able to vaporize Mexican cities in response. No more coddling that Third World craphole...whether it is its government or the American hate/racist groups like La Raza (The Race).

Strong measures....I know. Weak measures will not work. The US will be defending itself from not only the drug cartels....but also the Mexican government.


41 posted on 03/26/2009 3:00:48 PM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (The Biggest Threat To American Soverignty Is Rampant Economic Anti-Americanism)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

“There are no drug cartels in Mexico, none!” - Bagdad Bob

My thoughts exactly when I read this headline.


42 posted on 03/26/2009 3:01:35 PM PDT by villagerjoel ("Gun control is a prerequisite for genocide." - Unknown)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
Are these politicians really this stupid?

I take it this is a rhetorical question. BTW is this thread about Mexico or Northern Mexico (ie America)?

43 posted on 03/26/2009 3:07:20 PM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to preserve it.)
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To: NormsRevenge

The headline “Mexico Not in Danger of Collapse” sounds A LOT like the headline (also from today) “Utica pollster says Obama’s popularity drop not dramatic”: both mean exactly the opposite of what they say.


45 posted on 03/26/2009 3:27:07 PM PDT by cake_crumb (Obama is so far out of his depth that he's in unstable orbit.)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
That’s not the point, Bozo!....Mexico could simply back away from the border area and give up leaving all of it to the drug gangs. Then the U.S. would have to deal with it....Are these politicians really this stupid?

That be some mighty nice real estate once we clear out the rabble...

46 posted on 03/26/2009 3:29:25 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

Um. Not under THIS regime. In such an event, anyone with a brain should be aiming in self defense.


47 posted on 03/26/2009 3:29:32 PM PDT by cake_crumb (Obama is so far out of his depth that he's in unstable orbit.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Barney Frank said the same thing a couple of years ago about Fannie Mae.


48 posted on 03/26/2009 3:30:54 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
"Mexico could simply back away from the border area and give up leaving all of it to the drug gangs. Then the U.S. would have to deal with it....Are these politicians really this stupid?"

LOL, no, they're not STUPID. The drug cartels are what keep the politicians in jobs. They can't AFFORD to really do anything to stop them. What would they do for money then? (This has been accepted- though unofficially - practice in Mexican politics since before Zepata's time.)

49 posted on 03/26/2009 3:33:16 PM PDT by cake_crumb (Obama is so far out of his depth that he's in unstable orbit.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Come on Norm,
you could run a pyramid betting scheme.
Oh never mind.


50 posted on 03/26/2009 3:37:39 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

So what?


51 posted on 03/26/2009 3:42:10 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: NormsRevenge

Well, I really don’t care if it does, or doesn’t...

What I do care about is the massive influx of refuges that WILL inundate our border with no one in place to stop them from coming into this country...

Yes, we in the border state WILL be effected more than anyone else...

At which point will the border states be “allowed” to repel borders, and to what degree of force will we be “allowed” to use to thwart this problem???


52 posted on 03/26/2009 3:48:07 PM PDT by stevie_d_64
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To: Slapshot68
With Obama at the helm, it’s possible the U.S. will fall before Mexico does.

LOL good point. The question is not whether Mexico will fail, the question is whether anyone in Mexico would notice.

53 posted on 03/26/2009 3:52:40 PM PDT by usurper (Spelling or grammatical errors in this post can be attributed to the LA City School System)
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To: NormsRevenge

IMHO when Fox got voted in a president he started an cascade of changes.

Now it has reached the point were the corrupt Mexican federales/cops/mayors/army generals affiliated with the PRI are being replaced by the new crop of corrupt officials (and their associated drug gang).

They are not all going quietly.

It will all be reshuffled and ‘quite’ reasonably shortly. Costing too much money.

Saying that Mexico could become a narco-state implies that it has been something other in recent history.


54 posted on 03/26/2009 3:55:12 PM PDT by Dinsdale
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To: NormsRevenge

I’m going to apply Constanza’s Rule to this statement, which means that Mexico is about to collapse.


55 posted on 03/26/2009 3:56:53 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: NormsRevenge

So far in the last couple of years, any large company, government program, or government that has had to come out and say that they weren’t collapsing, collapsed by the next week.


56 posted on 03/26/2009 4:14:38 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ...

...y’know, because Mexico can’t collapse twice. ;’)


57 posted on 03/26/2009 4:32:09 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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"Mexico is in no danger of becoming a failed state," said National Intelligence Director Dennis Blair at his first news conference Thursday.
..."y'know, because Mexico became a failed state some time ago. Uh-oh, is this microphone on?"
58 posted on 03/26/2009 4:33:06 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: NormsRevenge; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; ...

Ping!


59 posted on 03/26/2009 6:06:45 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ Support Our Troops ~ www.AmericaSupportsYou.mil ~)
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To: NormsRevenge
March 4th: "What you're now seeing is . . . profit and earning ratios are starting to get to the point where buying stocks is a potentially good deal if you've got a long-term perspective on it," the president said on a day that trading continued to hover under 7,000.

March 7th: Obama tells the NY Times: “What I don’t think people should do is suddenly stuff money in their mattresses and pull back completely from spending.... I don't think that people should suddenly mistrust all of our financial institutions.”

March 13th: Declaring the national crisis is "not as bad as we think" Obama says his plans will speed recovery. He says he is "highly optimistic" about the long term.

March 18th (describing what would happen if major banking institutions failed): "Here's the problem," Mr. Obama said, "It's almost like they've got--they've got a bomb strapped to them and they've got their hand on the trigger. You don't want them to blow up. But you've got to kind of talk them, ease that finger off the trigger."

March 19th: Obama says to reporters, "There has never been a secretary of the Treasury, except maybe Alexander Hamilton, right after the Revolutionary War, who's had to deal with the multiplicity of issues that Secretary Geithner is having to deal with--all at the same time." Note: Hamilton died when the vice president shot him in a duel.

March 19th: Obama says, "So for everybody in Washington who's busy scrambling, trying to figure out how to blame somebody else, just go ahead and talk to me, because it's my job to make sure that we fix these messes, even if I don't make them."

March 20: "Obama Asks Americans Not to Expect Too Much From Him"--headline, Associated Press.

March 25th: Geithner, at the Council on Foreign Relations, said the U.S. is "open" to a headline-grabbing proposal by the governor of the China's central bank, which was widely reported as being a call for a new global currency to replace the dollar, but which Geithner described as more modest and "evolutionary."

March 26th: National Intelligence Director Dennis Blair says "Mexico is in no danger of becoming a failed state."

=============== It seems to me that the Obama administration is learning how to "float trial balloons". About a month ago, they were inept and rudderless. Now they are inept and starting to have some direction. The chaos is introduced. Government is the salvation. Posting an Op-Ed in major cities all over the world seems over-reaching and prideful.

60 posted on 03/26/2009 6:18:21 PM PDT by txnuke (Until I see a REAL C.O.L.B. BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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