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Obama is Still an American, Still President
Scripps News ^ | 3/6/2009 | Dale McFeaters...etal.

Posted on 03/06/2009 4:27:07 PM PST by AJ in NYC

It is an article of faith in the loopier precincts of the Internet, impervious to evidence to the contrary, that Barack Obama is ineligible to be president of the United States because he is not a "natural born citizen" as the Constitution requires.

All this would be quite harmless, like believing in the Illuminati or alien abduction, except that the extra-chromosome true believers have taken to filing suit in the federal courts basically seeking to overturn the election.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bho44; birthcertificate; certifigate; constitution; eligibility; ineligible; obamanoncitizenissue; scotus; usurper
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"...extra-chromosome true believers..."

How classy and erudite. Let's refer to these men as possessing an Extra Chromosome.

Nice. This is what we are up against, folks.

41 posted on 03/06/2009 4:56:11 PM PST by rlmorel ("The Road to Serfdom" by F.A.Hayek - Read it...today.)
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To: Venturer

And you have some actual, tangible evidence that college girl left the U.S. and modern medicine to run off to Kenya to have her baby?


42 posted on 03/06/2009 4:57:38 PM PST by colorado tanker (Oh my God, am I hoping for change.)
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To: Michael Michael; BP2; DJ MacWoW
Unless he was born outside the United States, and I've seen no credible evidence that he was, he is indeed a "natural born citizen" of the United States.

Not as the term applies to the "Office of the Presidency".

Read your constitution.

43 posted on 03/06/2009 4:59:51 PM PST by fanfan (God, Bless America, please.)
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To: Michael Michael; RinaseaofDs
Bring the document before the court.

No court has asked for it.

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Why not?

44 posted on 03/06/2009 5:04:27 PM PST by fanfan (God, Bless America, please.)
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To: rlmorel

Is it any wonder Obama wants to subject them to the international court. That’s one more way Zero can eliminate a problem.


45 posted on 03/06/2009 5:05:15 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Michael Michael
Unless he was born outside the United States, and I've seen no credible evidence that he was, he is indeed a "natural born citizen" of the United States.

You dont know what you are talking about, do you, Newbie?

46 posted on 03/06/2009 5:06:41 PM PST by Diogenesis ("All governments suffer a recurring problem: Power attracts pathological personalities." - Dune)
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To: AJ in NYC

That drumbeat wil soon be punctuated by the staccatto of rifle fire, I fear. I think that Durbin’s anti-First Amendment bill will be the straw that breaks the camels back.


47 posted on 03/06/2009 5:07:45 PM PST by snowrip (Liberal? YOU ARE A GUTLESS SOCIALIST LOSER WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)
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To: colorado tanker

I will present mine when you present yours , that she didnt.


48 posted on 03/06/2009 5:08:44 PM PST by Venturer
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To: AJ in NYC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEnaAZrYqQI


49 posted on 03/06/2009 5:08:55 PM PST by danamco
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To: rlmorel; ccmay
See ccmay ‘s post 25.

People who have an extra chromosome suffer, or are blessed, depending on ones perspective, with Downs Syndrome.

Not a very nice thing for a tolerant, caring, considerate liberal to say, eh?

50 posted on 03/06/2009 5:10:31 PM PST by fanfan (God, Bless America, please.)
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To: colorado tanker

Nobody is going to be persuaded.

What you said is exactly what I said before the election. Don’t worry about his status as a citizen, I said. If we illuminate his socialist, Marxist and racist associations and policies, Americans will never elect him. Never.

And look what happened.

Obama is a racist who spent twenty years listening to anti-American racist pap in a racist “church” and gave large sums of money to that “church”.

People don’t care.

Obama is an associate of a virulent anti-American radical terrorist, a member of a group who killed AMERICANS with bombs, who wished he had done more violence, whose most public moments in print are accompanied by a picture of him proudly and triumphantly standing on top of an American flag, the same flag I and my father served under, and my father was buried under. This man is one of Obama’s principal patrons, who by his own admission is “guilty as sin-free as a bird”, and quite proud of that.

People don’t care.

Obama is corrupt to the core, steered money towards his family (wife) and friends.

People don’t care.

Obama is an avowed socialist who believes in redistribution of wealth.

People don’t care.

Obama thinks higher taxes are the way to fix our problems.

People don’t care.

Obama thinks higher gasoline prices are good for us.

People don’t care.

Obama thinks guns should be banned.

People don’t care.

Obama is a devotee of Saul Alinsky’s techniques as described in “Rules for Radicals”, one of the most disgusting things I have ever read.

People don’t care.

Obama is probably not a citizen eligible for the Presidency under the guidelines of the Constitution and pointedly and arrogantly refuses to provide the documentation.

People don’t care.

Our votes were trumped and negated by people like the damned ignorant idiot who came to the conclusion on national television that Obama was going to pay for her mortgage and her gasoline.

I understand your point of view, colorado tanker, but...people don’t care about the issues, qualifications and associations of this man. This man is intent on installing socialist policies, gutting our military, pandering to our enemies and betraying our allies. Through bureaucratic fiat and further entrenchment of liberalism in organizations such as A.C.O.R.N, this “stimulus package” is going to cement liberals in power for a long time no matter what.

We should fight back, tooth and nail with everything we have got and the equivalent of a boot in their ideological crotch, if that is what it takes. Lenin understood that ridicule was the best way to marginalize your enemies, and make no mistake, that is how they want to portray this effort. The fact that these three men who serve their country have filed suit is enough to make me accept the ridicule. If you are getting flack, you must be over the target.


51 posted on 03/06/2009 5:11:34 PM PST by rlmorel ("The Road to Serfdom" by F.A.Hayek - Read it...today.)
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To: Venturer

Cute. If your going to accuse the President of the United States of being a non-citizen usurper, you’d better have more than a debate trick to back it up with.


52 posted on 03/06/2009 5:12:58 PM PST by colorado tanker (Oh my God, am I hoping for change.)
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To: Michael Michael

I’ve not seen credible evidence that Vladimir Putin was born outside the US however, that does not does not make him a “natural born citizen” of the United States.

I submit that an absence of exclusionary documents (showing other than US NAT BORN) is not proof that a valid inclusionary one (presumably his original birth certificate) exists.

Presumably it DOES exist and data upon it will call into question the sincerity and authenticity of the one currently holding the title President of the United States.

Else, why hide it along with your college records?


53 posted on 03/06/2009 5:19:27 PM PST by Sylvester McMonkey McBean (1 O types of people. Those that think O is the 1; and everyone else.)
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To: cripplecreek

Yes. I am angry about his stance on international law, as well as many other things.

When I decided I had to cast my vote for McCain, no matter how bad a candidate he was, I did it under the assumption that as bad as he was, he could not do the damage the Obama would do in the same time frame.

Now, I cannot believe how this man, ostensibly the leader of the wealthiest and most powerful country on earth, is determined to pedal the bicycle downhill faster than any of us dreamed it was possible. I never imagined he would be so aggressive in his agenda.

He is doing everything in his power to dismantle this country, and he has been in office less than two months.

Just imagine what he and his cohorts can do in two years with a willing Congress? And believe me, they are willing. I do think that most Americans do not realize the grave danger our republic is in.


54 posted on 03/06/2009 5:20:05 PM PST by rlmorel ("The Road to Serfdom" by F.A.Hayek - Read it...today.)
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To: rlmorel
Boiling frogs hoping the water just seems hot.
55 posted on 03/06/2009 5:21:52 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Diogenesis
You dont know what you are talking about, do you, Newbie? Troll?

Most of them don't, and if they figure it out, they go away, and are replaced with new ones.

56 posted on 03/06/2009 5:24:13 PM PST by fanfan (God, Bless America, please.)
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To: cripplecreek

**smirk**

I had to explain that analogy to someone earlier today...:)

Great analogy.


57 posted on 03/06/2009 5:28:01 PM PST by rlmorel ("The Road to Serfdom" by F.A.Hayek - Read it...today.)
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To: rlmorel
While I do worry about his citizenship status, you have posted an excellent summation of the situation. The reality post election is worse than pre-election fears predicted with mounting damage to our market, economy, multiple industries, etc. etc.

I keep thinking that at some point he is going to go too far and actually hurt people who can hurt back and yet, his poll numbers are remarkably high. So I wonder out loud: what is it going to take to wake people up enough to ask questions about Obama? And one question, perhaps the most pertinent question, is his Constitutional eligibility.

58 posted on 03/06/2009 5:32:09 PM PST by GBA
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To: Michael Michael
The problem, fuzznuts, is that there has been NO documentation that he WAS born in the US, or born anywhere at all! All ANYONE has ever seen since the subject came up is a Photoshopped Hawaiian Birth Extract on Daily Kos. Oh, and a dem politician said he saw it, that it's real, but he can't prove it, and if he (she?) HAD seen it, the act would have been illegal, due to state privacy laws.

Just to confuse things further, Hawaii, at that time, would issue a COLB to anyone who walked in with a babe in arms and asked, since a lot of the locals were still delivering babies in the back bedroom, on the Out Islands.

What really puzzles everyone is WHY NOT SHOW IT? Dear Leader could kill the whole question AND make a lot of his enemies look foolish, which he apparently gets wood from, for $12, plus postage. Odd that he won't....

Now, if that isn't what you heard over at DU, sorry about that. But then, lately, we have had a lot of "progressive conservatives" here lately, under orders to fog things up...

59 posted on 03/06/2009 5:33:46 PM PST by jonascord (Hey, we have the Constitution. What's to worry about?)
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To: colorado tanker
If your going to accuse the President of the United States of being a non-citizen usurper, you’d better have more than a debate trick to back it up with.

How about simple circumstantial evidence? He defends 22 lawsuits, rather than show a slip of paper we all have in some locked drawer in our homes. Millions of dollars out the window is a HUGE indicator that there is something amiss.

And next let's try simple logic.
1) It is impossible to prove a negative.
2) Ergo, challengers cannot prove he was NOT born in Hawaii.
3) Ergo, if he wishes to allege that he was born in Hawaii, it is incumbent upon HIM to provide that evidence.

60 posted on 03/06/2009 5:38:02 PM PST by Teacher317
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