Obama is Still an American, Still President

Scripps News ^ | 3/6/2009 | Dale McFeaters...etal.

[AJ in NYC]

It is an article of faith in the loopier precincts of the Internet, impervious to evidence to the contrary, that Barack Obama is ineligible to be president of the United States because he is not a "natural born citizen" as the Constitution requires.

All this would be quite harmless, like believing in the Illuminati or alien abduction, except that the extra-chromosome true believers have taken to filing suit in the federal courts basically seeking to overturn the election.

[BP2]

Doesn’t that mean Jindal can’t run in 2012? I want a Palin/Jindal ticket. :(

The Constitution must be adhered to -- no playing favorites or political favors. Jindal can run for POTUS (freedom of political expression and association). He just can't legally serve.

I've said since the beginning, if BHO is eligible, and it's proven, I'll accept him as president. I'll still fight his policies, but I'll accept his position in our political process.

However, given the preponderance of evidence, he seems to be hiding something pretty damning in his birth and Occidental records...

[Gemsbok]

“actual, tangible evidence that college girl left the U.S. and modern medicine to run off to Kenya to have her baby?”

Are you picturing this young girl in a long skirt, pill-box hat, wearing white gloves?

Consider the what is publicly known:

1. Stanley had a reputation as an ‘independent one’ on high school.
2. She got became pregnant out-of-wedlock at 17 in a day an age where this occurred < 1% of the time.
3. She was dating inter-racially in a place and time where she was likely an anomaly.
4. She was dating a foreign man that was 8 years older than her.

5. There are no witnesses from U. of Hawaii, friends, family, doctors, employers, teachers, nurses, landlords, or neighbors that place her visably pregnant in Hawaii or anywhere else in the USA that have come forward.
6. Obama’s Kenyan Granny swears she witnessed the birth of BHO.

7. The first credible siteing of her in the USA is with a newborn in Washington.
8. She did take-off a few years later with yet another older, muslim, foreign male and travel to a primitive setting in a foreign country with her kid in tow.
9. She wasn’t the first or the last wife or woman that Obama Senior would convince to abandon her roots and family for a life with him in Kenya.

He charmed his first wife Kezia to leave her family and village at an even younger age and she began having his children. Then he met Ann and charmed her as wife number 2. After he left Hawaii, he charmed his 3rd wife, Ruth Nideson to ditch her Harvard education and home to follow him to the African village and had 2 kids with him. Then he charmed a 4th women (unnamed) to join the polygamous hut and, well you know the rest.

I’m just saying that Stanley & Obama, both have a pattern of lifestyle that shouldn’t be ignored. Both were free-spiritied adventerous types and they lived unconventional lives, to say the least.

[hoosiermama]

Wonder how many Freepers we can get deputized?

[hoosiermama]

That’s right: Jindal cannot become president.

[chrt30]

Unconventional in that they were both homo’s? Was Obama’s mom a lesbian?

Is it true that Obama has had gay sex outside of his marriage, and continues to be more comfortable around and wakes up with and goes to sleep with hunky men like Reggie Love, rather his wife, other wise known as the hulk?

[pepsionice]

The most fascinating thing about Stanley...you really have someone with almost no history except what BHO actually tells you...and then maybe three or four associates (note, I didn’t call them friends). You really can’t find anyone who was a close friend of Stanley’s....which is the amazing part of this story.

The Hawaii period? Its like some Twilight Zone episode. No one remembers her. No one remembers her dating the Kenyan guy who was the ONLY black on campus. This is all fairly strange.

I’ve pretty much given up on August being the birth month of BHO...I think Stanley was preg when they left the Seattle area, and she delivered in late March or early April....which ruins the legend of the Kenyan dude. This is why the birth certificate is so sensitive in nature.

[Gemsbok]

Well bless your heart, socialcon.

So, which fight are you going to pick with him?

Make no doubt about it, as long as the man remains in office and refuses to show proof of eligibillity, he will be hounded with demands, lawsuits, and negative publicity. The issue grows and festers like a stubborn zit upon his elongated chin.

But not to worry, he is in control, and can make it all go away, whenever he wishes to be forthcoming with the American people.

If your mission is to convince people from inquiring about his past, youv’e simply landed in the wrong place.

[Gemsbok]

There are many others that question the timing as well.

Pass me a freepmail on what you’ve dug out.

[MitchellC]

I am highly skeptical of Obama’s ineligibility, and I think that those folks who are asking ‘but why is he afraid to release his birth certificate then’ ought to realize that so long as this is an issue only with people who would never support him anyway, then Obama has every incentive NOT to release the certificate in order to allow them to keep wasting their energy. Then, he has the option of later releasing the certification in order to embarrass all of his opposition.

That said, the guy who wrote the article was real classy with the line about “extra chromosomes.”

[canaan]

I don’t understand, then, why there would be a reason to either write an incorrect date on the BC back in ‘61, or to hide the incorrect date now. What significance would his birth date have? I don’t believe it’s really something that would hurt him now - let’s face it, none of us really knows when we’re born - we’re told by our parents and the paperwork.

Is the point of your hypothesis actually that she gave birth to Obama around the same time she married Sr.? (in the current scenario, she married him around then while being several months pregnant). So are you suggesting that it wasn’t Sr.’s baby, he was just marrying Stanley for a favor? If so, doesn’t it seem that he would be willing to have his name listed on the BC, as part of the favor?

I guess I’m not clear on what point you’re making about the birth date.....?

In either scenario, it does seem highly improbable that they were much of a “couple”. There’s no indication they ever even lived together. But I have seen Hawaiians say that Sr. wasn’t the only black, and that most people on the island have dark skin (although not as dark as Sr.’s).

[canaan]

But.... the new law applies to presidential candidates, doesn’t it? BO is no longer a candidate. Without some stipulation written in that the law is retroactive, I don’t think this law will affect BO until 2012....

[usmcobra]

You talk about Obama’s right to privacy, let’s talk about George W. Bush’s right to privacy.

He was accused of being AWOL from his military service by the press, not by the military, not by the courts, and certainly not by the people.

And this was done to say he was ineligible to be president, because oddly enough he had not fulfilled his obligations to the United States government to serve as a officer for a period of eight years Or the length of a national guard contract based upon a points system for reserve and guard officers.

In every Officer’s service record book there are details of his life that qualify him to serve, including a certified original copy of his birth certificate, and to prove he was eligible to be president and had fulfilled his obligations to the guard, George W. Bush turned over to them his complete military service, medical,dental and pay records so that the press could examine all parts of them to their satisfaction, he also turned over scholastic records and other vital personal history information.

Let’s compare that to today, the press is all but ignoring this issue despite claims from Kenyan relatives that Obama was born there, despite claims by Kenyan officials that Obama was born there, despite a computer generated facsimile created for the sole purpose of suggesting nothing is wrong here, and despite the fact that Obama seems perfectly willing to spend thousands if not millions to hide from the American people the original proof that he is eligible to serve as this country’s president a single sheet of paper that is enough to destroy every concern many of us have.

Before the election we were told not to raise this issue because it was a Machiavellian trap that Obama would surely spring on any who dared to question where he was born, that the issues should be paramount to this singular issue of his eligibility, and that we should ignore the whole creepiness of the way his life story was being actively hidden behind manufactured spin and hype.

The election has come and gone and the issue still remains solely because Obama does not dare show the ultimate original proof of his eligibility. Our economy is in a power dive thanks to the efforts of Obama, we will be burdened with a massive spending program of trillions of dollars for decades to come, while Obama has all but surrendered our sovereignty to terrorists around the world while insulting our closest allies and short of rebellion in the streets we are left with the ghost of a chance that some court some where will finally demand Obama’s vault copy of his original birth certificate as the only means to prove he does not meet the standards the constitution it self lays out for who can be president.....

I’ve asked for a better reason why Obama should not have to show his original birth certificate than he does not have to, and yet my request are ignored by the Obama sycophants that try to subvert these threads into propaganda postings for his oneness and I’ll make the same request of you....

Is there any other reason besides he should not have to that would allow Obama to continue to hide behind some 2007 abstract COLB to prevent him from proving his US citizenship is the natural born variety?

[Michael Michael]

The Constitution is very clear on Presidential eligibility requirements.

But the Constitution says absolutely nothing about proving them or to whom they must be proved. Nor anything in any federal statute.

[Grunthor]

“But I know for a certainty that he is no American nor will he ever be.”

Finally. Someone with proof! You do have it, right?

[Michael Michael]

The Donofrio argument: His father was never a US citizen, so Obama cannot be a NBC. Academically strong if you're intellectually honest about the definition of "Natural Born Citizen" at the Framing.

The definition of "natural born citizen" at the framing came from the jus solis of the English common law, which continued in the states after the Revolution. De Vattel is the most unsubstantiated, academically weak argument I've seen in years.

[Michael Michael]

Wrong, if requested they will send a copy of the original.

Not no mo'. I axed 'em. Photostatic copies are out, Certifications of Live Birth are in.

For some purposes one *must* have a copy of the original. The state itself will not accept the abstract for the Hawaii Lands Program.

DHHL doesn't require them. It just makes it easier for them (they don't have to go digging through the vault copies).

The US state department won't accept it *IF* the date of birth is too much before the date of acceptance.

Sure. But Obama's birth was registered four days after his birth.

It also says on the bottom that any alterations invalidate it. Since no one has actually seen it, determining alterations is difficult, but at least some see evidence of digital alteration to the posted images.

Nah, there's absolutely no evidence of any digital alteration (except the blacking out of the certificate number in the scanned image).

One person who made such claims was exposed as a fraud. The other, simply doesn't know what he's talking about. Or does and is also a fraud, but I'll give him the benefit of doubt for now.

[Fred Nerks]

A Defined And Serious Injury

People forget that Obama’s lawyers have already admitted that whatever is in Obama’s bona fides would, “cause a defined and serious injury” to Obama and/or the DNC.

During the Federal Circuit Court ruling on Phil Berg’s claim, judge, R. Barclay Surrick, ruled that any objection or refutation had to be served within thirty days. The Obama team contented itself with a motion to dismiss the case and a protective order.

In these motions, Obama’s lawyers argued that revealing the information (birth certificate, citizenship in other countries, etc.) would “cause a defined and serious injury” to Obama and/or the DNC. They argued that revealing these documents raises a “legitimate privacy concern” and the above mentioned risk that “particularly serious embarrassment will result from turning over the requested documentation.” The source of that embarrassment was not specified.

That’s why Obama fights the release of his bona fides — “particularly serious embarrassment will result from turning over the requested documentation.” — his own attorneys said so.

http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaLatest.htm