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And Baby Makes How Many?
New York Times ^ | February 6, 2009 | Kate Zernike

Posted on 02/08/2009 6:44:18 PM PST by reaganaut1

THE comment from the photographer at Sears was typical. “Are these all yours?” she asked, surveying Kim Gunnip’s 12 children.

“No,” Mrs. Gunnip replied, “I picked some up at the food court.”

But it was harder to find a retort for the man in line at the supermarket, who said within earshot of her youngest children, “You must have a great sex life.”

Now her family, like other larger families, as they call themselves, is facing endless news coverage of the octuplets born in California and a new round of scorn, slack jaws and stupid jokes.

Back when the average woman had more than three children, big families were the Kennedys of Hickory Hill and Hyannis Port, “Cheaper by the Dozen,” the Cosbys or “Eight is Enough” — lovable tumbles of offspring as all-American in their scrapes as in their smiles.

But as families have shrunk, and parents helicopter over broods tinier yet more precious, a vanload of children has taken on more of a freak show factor. The families know the stereotypes: they’re polygamists, religious zealots, reality-show hopefuls or Québécois in it for the per-child government bonus. And isn’t there something a little obsessive about Angelina Jolie’s quest for her own World Cup soccer team?

“Look at the three shows on TLC that have bigger families,” said Meagan Francis, the 31-year-old author of “Table for Eight,” which stems from her experience raising four children (she is expecting her fifth next month). “One is about religious fundamentalists, one has sextuplets, the other is a family of little people,” she said, referring to, respectively, the Duggars of “17 Kids and Counting,” “Jon and Kate Plus Eight” and “Little People, Big World,” about two dwarfs raising four children, three of average stature, on a pumpkin farm in Oregon.

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One should not make the important life decision of having a large family just to piss off liberals. But it is a bonus.

Having more kids does cost money, but if the Dems are going to tax away your savings anyway, why not? As they raise marginal income taxes on the "rich", more working wives are going to ask why they are working for Uncle Sam. Caring for a large family is easier when one spouse can stay home.

1 posted on 02/08/2009 6:44:18 PM PST by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

In the old days, a comment in public about a mother’s sex life from a strange man would have received a slap in the face in reply...or a punch in the nose from the husband if he were there.

We’ve become a society of gutter dwellers.


2 posted on 02/08/2009 6:48:27 PM PST by Hazwaste (Liberals love the average American the same way that foxes love the average chicken.)
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One should not make the important life decision of having a large family just to piss off liberals.

I don't know, I base many of my important life decisions on what will piss off liberals.

3 posted on 02/08/2009 6:48:51 PM PST by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Crisis - America Held Hostage)
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To: reaganaut1

There’s nothing wrong with having 12 kids...one or two at a time.

Having 8 at one time, on the other hand, with no husband in sight, while depending on your own parents for support, and having 6 other kids at home under age 8 makes you look like an alley cat having a litter.


4 posted on 02/08/2009 6:49:03 PM PST by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: reaganaut1

I can’t fathom having children right now, but I’m only 23.


5 posted on 02/08/2009 6:49:29 PM PST by wastedyears (April 21st, 2009 - International Iron Maiden Day)
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Do you get any time for yourselves? “Obviously, or we wouldn’t have six kids.”

Great comeback!!!

6 posted on 02/08/2009 6:49:44 PM PST by NCjim ("Lies have to be covered up, truth can run around naked." - Johnny Cash)
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“Are these all yours?”

No I am a condom salesman and these are just customer complaints !

7 posted on 02/08/2009 6:52:30 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Hazwaste
Things haven't changed that much....There will always be noisy poor spoken people:

My grandmother had seven children (dad the oldest born in 1920)...One day a neighbor commented how much they all resembled my grandfather.....Her retort: “Well they don't look like the butcher, iceman, postman or grocer!”

8 posted on 02/08/2009 6:53:44 PM PST by hoosiermama (Berg is a liberal democrat. Keyes is a conservative. Obama is bringing us together already!)
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To: Squantos

that’s awesome!


9 posted on 02/08/2009 6:54:50 PM PST by mockingbyrd
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To: vladimir998
I quite agree. For the record, I was raised in a large family, there were 12 of us kids, and we always had a couple extras staying with us at one time or another for various reasons. Family, friends, one parent in the hospital or something like that. I wouldn't have had it any other way. No we didn't have much, but what we had we were grateful for and we never went without needs of any kind.
10 posted on 02/08/2009 6:56:10 PM PST by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: hoosiermama

My Grandmother and Grandfather had 21! Not all survived but she raised 11 I believe.


11 posted on 02/08/2009 6:58:14 PM PST by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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There’s nothing wrong with having 12 kids...one or two at a time.

Having 8 at one time, on the other hand, with no husband in sight, while depending on your own parents for support, and having 6 other kids at home under age 8 makes you look like an alley cat having a litter.

The real problem is that a lot of people don't distinguish between the two situations!!

12 posted on 02/08/2009 7:03:15 PM PST by pbmaltzman
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Big families rule!

I was raised with 4 brothers and 4 sisters. In so many cases, parents have 1 or 2 and then treat them like little toy poodles. They do not learn the many life lessons that a full house brings, and they do not have the comraderie that comes with such numbers. My remaining siblings and I are quite close and most of us see one another quite regularly.


13 posted on 02/08/2009 7:05:01 PM PST by Bigg Red (Palin in 2012!)
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Well, having 8 kids (at once) is unnatural; that never just ‘happens’.


14 posted on 02/08/2009 7:06:12 PM PST by eclecticEel (Wall Street isn't a charity ... so why are we giving them money?)
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To: Hazwaste
Can you imagine going up to a woman with no kids and saying:

"You must be infertile."
"How many abortions did you have?"
"You know, there's books that tell you how to do it."

15 posted on 02/08/2009 7:07:50 PM PST by Lizavetta
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To: Bigg Red
Yes they do rule. We lost Daddy several years ago, but whenever Mom comes home for a visit, everyone fights over who she will stay with LOL unlike today's family where the Mom is a nuisance. We all adore her. She and Daddy moved south about 20 years ago, several brothers followed one at a time, and I intend to the same. We all stay close, in spite of the miles. Some in the area we don't see often enough, but we are still close.

I was only able to have the one son, but he is my greatest blessing. Hoping by the time I am ready to relocate, he will too! Don't know if I could bear being that far from him.

16 posted on 02/08/2009 7:11:30 PM PST by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: Lizavetta; Tax-chick
When I had two toddlers and was pregnant with my third (at 35) some old guy jerk in the supermarket said to me, "Don't you know what causes that?"

I never came so close to punching someone in the mouth as that.

I had plenty of retorts I would have used if I hadn't had my kids with me.

*sigh*

17 posted on 02/08/2009 7:13:38 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: reaganaut1

I’m the eldest of 12, my mother had 8 children in 5 years and everyone thought THAT was a marvel. But now that I am nearing 60, I feel so blessed to have so many built in best friends to grow old with. I just cannot imagine how sad it must be to be an only child in old age.


18 posted on 02/08/2009 7:15:18 PM PST by tinamina
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To: Lizavetta
No of course they don't. Even when I was young people always made assumptions, and even rude remarks. Especially growing up in the late 60’s early 70’s. Feminism was taking hold, and some of the rude comments classmates made and assumptions made by school teachers and administrators were downright hurtful. But we would go home and get the correct moral code after school. You know, back when parents told kids things of real values. Like “sticks and stone” etc. and that we were all blessed.
19 posted on 02/08/2009 7:18:55 PM PST by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: reaganaut1

We have a ton of kids. They are a blessing.


20 posted on 02/08/2009 7:19:23 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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