Posted on 01/30/2009 10:54:50 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
Since the Big Bang story of the origin of the universe has been refuted by a host of external observations and internal contradictions,1 secular science has been forced to postulate additional, exceedingly improbable events to keep it afloat. One of these is “inflation,” which attempts to explain the apparent uniformity of the universe.2 But new observations by the Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe are forcing cosmologists to revamp inflation, at the cost of inventing yet another miraculous event to prop it up...
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Space itself is expanding, which means that every point in the universe can be presented as its center, with every other point rushing away from it.
Fortunately, honest science cannot be construed as a religion in the minds of the sincere. To label it as such does a disservice to your point of view.
“Creation Science” is an oxymoron.
But not at uniform density in all directions, unless you are near the point from which all is expanding.
Also, many now hold that there is no longer any expansion.
Here's the position he's arguing for;
Plasma cosmology and the steady-state model both hypothesize an evolving universe without beginning or end. These and other alternative approaches can also explain the basic phenomena of the cosmos, including the abundances of light elements, the generation of large-scale structure, the cosmic background radiation, and how the redshift of far-away galaxies increases with distance. They have even predicted new phenomena that were subsequently observed, something the big bang has failed to do.
Weirder and weirder.
You are absolutely correct that Darwin was not a scientist.
He made observations and attempted to explain those observations.
He may have been aware of a gentleman who had theorized much the same about thirty years earlier (White?)
Like I said, our tools and methodology are much sharper than his.
There's a difference between true science and trying to guess the origin of the universe.
There is not God, we'll modify that theory as new data becomes available but be sure there is no God.
The big bang theory does not assume that there is no God. It is merely one of several explanations of the mechanics of cosmology.
Repeat: mechanics.... like working on cars.
That all depends on the model you are using. All that goes out the window if the universe has a center of mass.
So what does the theory assume about the Biblical creation? The obvious answer is that it assumes that the bible is wrong and silly. So what does the big bang theory say about the validity of the bible which states of itself that it is that Word of God? Obvously the theory rejects that though it may try to be polite about it. Either that or it implies that God didn't understand the Big Bang Theory or that God was not capable of explaining it.
The theory does not at all reject the concept of God. It is a simple description of mechanics as well as we can determine them to date.
==Like I said, our tools and methodology are much sharper than his.
That’s the whole point. Our every sharpening tools and methodology are pulling up Darwinian evolution by the roots.
==You are absolutely correct that Darwin was not a scientist. He made observations and attempted to explain those observations.
Actually, he tried to write the entire history of biology based on some minor variations between finches. The fact that the science community abandoned its collective wits and went along with it strikes me as absurd in the extreme.
The theories involving cosmology don’t take a stand on Biblical inerrancy.
They are exactly the same as describing the workings of a short block Chevy based engine that produces 610 HP (available, BTW, as a crate engine).
Funny thing about science... A THEORY is just that!
Given the EVIDENCE in HAND, a THEORY attempts to explain the phenomena!
When better information becomes AVAILABLE, the theory is re-tested and see if it holds up! If not, it’s tossed or MODIFIED!
Get a grip.
I never said, or meant, that the RCC said the Earth was flat, but they did hold to a Earth centered solar system and opposing views were heresey
Sorry, only heathen persons ever thought the Earth was flat. Christians and Jews never did.
No, it was saved by RIGHTEOUS JEWS who saved the books of the Old Testament, while the Original Church, saved them to be canonized by the heathen Constantine Church
Surely you arent going to claim that the RCC, which did not exist for ANY of the Old Testament writings, somehow saved the Old Testament before the RCC ever existed, are you??
They are exactly the same as describing the workings of a short block Chevy based engine that produces 610 HP (available, BTW, as a crate engine).
There is no question as to the origin of the engine, I prefer Harley engines but that's just me. It is when the theory says that the metal in the engine is a billion years old and comes from a collapsed star which exists due to a big bang which happened because of what's his faces uncertainty principle that the theory has jumped from the science track and landed straight on the religion track. And it's on a course directly again away from God.
Maybe I should have said highway because there are no Harleys on rails.
What you fail to recognize is that Big Bang, abiogenesis, and single cell to man evolution are the current dogma. They are taught as fact, voraciously defended, and debate is not permitted. When indisputable evidence arises that renders the current state of the theories untenable, they are reconstructed, modified and re-asserted as fact. Then, the above cycle is repeated.
Most of us understand science, but no one can answer the questions of origins with certainty, you must have faith in something - the Bible, scientific theory, or whatever.
The knowledge of the round earth goes way back to the Greeks and posssibly earlier. If you stand on a cliff (say the cliffs of Corinth) and lay a straight edge on the horizon which is nothing more than sea, it is very obvious. There also was a proof by one of the Greeks involving angles of the sun from widely different points of latitude.
All educated Greeks knew that the earth was round.
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