Posted on 01/30/2009 10:54:50 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
Since the Big Bang story of the origin of the universe has been refuted by a host of external observations and internal contradictions,1 secular science has been forced to postulate additional, exceedingly improbable events to keep it afloat. One of these is “inflation,” which attempts to explain the apparent uniformity of the universe.2 But new observations by the Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe are forcing cosmologists to revamp inflation, at the cost of inventing yet another miraculous event to prop it up...
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Don’t you love how this guy goes around hurling insults at fellow Christians. I have almost always had friendly relations with old earth creationists. We simply agreed to disagree agreeably. But DallasMike is a completely different animal. He’s like a bull in a china shop, smashing up everything on the horns of his false accusations (and then complains and plays the victim—just like his mentor Hugh Ross—whenever YECs call him on it). What a joke!
Next argument:
“Which of the 45,000 creation myths in every culture should we teach in school?”
Yup, and after that, Catholicism or Protestantism...
liberals would be so much happier in Cuba. They really really would.
==Why do you post crap like this?
The only crap I have seen on this thread has your screenname attached to it.
There are many theories that to one extent or another fit the data. Steady State, Budding Universes, Big Bang. I know that there are a multitude of theories now.
Limiting the argument to Big Bang theory is disingenuous.
"BS - Ah, so what "true science" better explains the origins of the universe, if modern cosmology is "guessing."
While you (DM) appear firmly grounded in the Socratic dialectic, Bosh is wholly devoted to the Hegelian form. As such, you'll never get a meaningful exchange out of him, only continual nonsense appropriate to his preferred dialectic.
==In the meantime, people like GodGunsGuts make it very difficult for we Christians who happen to be scientists to witness to others in our field.
LOL...your just pissed because you can’t drag more Christians into compromising GOD’S WORD. It’s all about you and your need to be respected by your atheist, God-hating peers. Sorry pal, those of us who hold GOD’S WORD dear can’t get down in the spiritual gutter with you just because you crave acceptance by the Temple of Darwin.
“The Earth was never flat in the Bible, only in the Roman Church’s definition for 2 or 300 years.”
“I never said, or meant, that the RCC said the Earth was flat, but they did hold to a Earth centered solar system and opposing views were heresey.”
These are both your quotes.
If you want to open the whole Copernican can of worms, by all means do so, but you may find that that the facts of that story don’t reflect much credit on your sources either.
That’s not a very Christian sentiment now, is it?
==I just read the article.
Oh, I get it. First you spew your venum and THEN you read the article. Some scientist...LOL
Thank you for your input, but I don’t believe I was speaking to you or expressed any desire for your opinion on the direct question I posed to the other poster.
Good day.
It's not arrogance. Believe it or not, there are people who actually understand things that you don't.
Ask me how to render 10,000 gallons of cyanide-filled water harmless. Ask me how to determine the amount of energy transferred between two liquids in a heat exchanger. Ask me how to set up virtual folders using C##.
That's not an insult. I'm positive that you are very competent in areas where I'm a complete dope. I have no idea how to rope a calf, weld a beam, or do accounting. I'm totally ignorant in those and many other things, but I do know that other people understand them.
The point is that though there are a lot of things that scientists do not understand, but there are a lot of things that scientists understand very well. The age of the earth and the age of the universe are two of those things. All of the evidence points to an earth that is about 4.5 billion years old and a universe that is 14 to 15 billion years old. All of it.
And there's nothing about an old earth that contradicts the Bible. Do a word study on the Hebrew word yom and the various meanings that it has in Genesis. Then ask yourself why Young-Earth Creationists insist on only one meaning for the first two chapters. They are pushing a man-made doctrine.
Please don't be sucked in by these Young-Earth Creationists. They truly hurt the cause of Christ.
I am shocked, shocked at this clear statement of the obvious!
/sarc
Well, I believe "to one extent or the another" is a bit of an understatement.
I do not, do not owe you a new keyboard. You are on your own.......
</sarcasm to match yours>
Do you understand it’s Christianity and not St Augustinity?
No, I do have success. However, I have to do extra work to show them that nutball theories pushed by people like GodGunGuts are not representative of authentic Christianity.
So tell me, Dan: Do a word study on the word yom as used in Genesis and get back to me on why it absolutely, positively has to mean a literal 24-hour period in the first two chapters.
Don't just make snide comments and run away. Do some research and convince me why I am wrong. I'm open to hearing you out.
Given that the Bible is very severe towards those who compromise the Word of God, I’ll take my chances.
It wasn't that difficult a question! I was looking for a more direct answer, not an answer in the form of a question...and frankly I don't have a thing to do with the answer; but you do, and you're off to a poor start.
Ok, ok. Substantial agreement... I’m just toning it down for the audience.
I wish we would stop teaching “save the earth” as a substitute for science and start teaching physics and chemistry again.
To each his own.
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