Posted on 01/23/2009 12:08:54 PM PST by Corazon
When Barack Hussein Obama places his hand on the Bible today to take the oath of office as 44th president of the United States, Barbara Nelson of Kenmore will undoubtedly think back to the day he was born. It was Aug. 4, 1961, at Kapiolani Medical Center for Women & Children in Honolulu.
I may be the only person left who specifically remembers his birth. His parents are gone, his grandmother is gone, the obstetrician who delivered him is gone, said Nelson, referring to Dr. Rodney T. West, who died in February at the age of 98. Heres the story: Nelson was having dinner at the Outrigger Canoe Club on Waikiki Beach with Dr. West, the father of her college friend, Jo-Anne. Making conversation, Nelson turned to Dr. West and said: So, tell me something interesting that happened this week, she recalls.
His response: Well, today, Stanley had a baby. Now thats something to write home about.
The new mother was Stanley (later referred to by her middle name of Ann) Dunham, and the baby was Barack Hussein Obama.
I penned the name on a napkin, and I did write home about it, said Nelson, knowing that her father, Stanley A. Czurles, director of the Art Education Department at Buffalo State College, would be interested in the Stanley connection.
She also remembers Dr. West mentioning that the babys father was the first black student at the University of Hawaii and how taken he was by the babys name.
I remember Dr. West saying Barack Hussein Obama, now thats a musical name, said Nelson, who grew up in Kenmore and went to Hawaii in 1959 to be in Jo-Annes wedding party. When Nelson was offered a job as a newspaper reporter and photographer......
(Excerpt) Read more at buffalonews.com ...
Did she keep the napkin?
Actually a little less. Yet BHO started his run for the Presidency about 2 years ago. Where has she and for that matter he, been all that time?
And then there is this from his Obit at Physician Executive
West is survived by. three children, seven grandchildren and five great-grandchildren
And he never told any of them about delivering a black bady from a white mother named Stanley.
Riight!
Here's another article on him, from November of 2007, a few months before he died.
No mention of having delivered BHO, even though by them BHO was fairly well known nationally, and certainly in Hawaii his "home" state. And more on his family.
Family: Wife, Mary Ann (Carlisle) West, died 1994; daughter, Jo-Anne Lewis (Kaimuki); sons, Kenneth C. West (Phoenix) and Rodney West Jr. (Spokane, Wash.)
What you want to bet none of them knows anything about their Dad delivering the Messiah?
Here is what I found on the Texasdarlin Blog regarding the Obama birth announcement:
3. Although its possible that a birth certificate filed by Baracks grandparents, while he was actually born elsewhere, led to this newspaper announcement, I personally think thats unlikely because in 1961 these announcements came directly from the Vital Statistics Office as reported by local hospitals, according to the researcher who found this information.
http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/07/23/obama-was-likely-born-in-hawaii/
About this size?
A black baby from a white woman named Stanley, in 1961. Yes it would stand out. He'd have told his family and others, not just this one woman, who also happens to have met BHO Sr and taught BHO Jr at the *SAME SCHOOL* that the Good Doctor graduated from. RIIIGHT.
And where do you think relatives would register home births at the time if not at the Vital Statistics Office? I have read the article at TD’s and the procedures they list are for the recent past, no one could be found who could relay the exact procedures for 1961. I am saying the mere registration of a birth would generate the birth announcement. You cannot deny that the address given in Jr’s birth announcement was NOT associated with the Dunhams or Obama Sr.
Of course, baby 0bama would not have had dark skin as a tiny infant so the delivering doctor and even nurses at a hospital would not really have known he had an African father if they were not told. This has been discussed on one of the threads - the friend that Ann visited in Seattle shortly after his birth said that baby 0bama was all “pink”.
I read that thread. All the black babies I've seen were obviously Black, and not just going by skin pigmentation. Most were not as dark complected as they would later become, but there was no mistaking their ancestry. Same with most "Mexican", and by that I really mean Mestizo, babies.
All babies are cute, but they don't all look alike regardless of their parent's ethnicity.
BTW, we see a lot of mixed race babies around here, mostly with one or the other parent or both being military. One of those whose mother used to sing in a band with my coworker has a German father. The mother is the "black" one. Also around 20 years ago, my sister in law had two of them a couple of years apart. So I think I know what black and mixed babies generally look like. Of course virtually all *African Americans" are mixed to one degree or another, but BHO Sr was just "African", and while not as dark as my Nigerian acquaintance from college who could be described as being obsidian, pretty dark compared to most African-Americans. I think the hospital staff would have known.
Besides, under the theory that the posted Certification of Live Birth is authentic, *someone* told the hospital staff, since BHO Sr's race is shown as "African". That would have been on the original Certificate of Live Birth, which the doctor would have signed. So he would have known even if BHO came out as pale as my older grandaughter (or my daughters or my wife), which seems unlikely. :)
If my wife and I had been on vacation in Canada when our son was born, he would still be eligible to become President.
Possibly, but then he'd be in the Born of two US Citizens category, which is generally accepted as "natural born", although not by everyone.
Now IF BHO Senior had been validly married to Miss Dunham, then the issue is legally murky, and I dont have a strong opinion on whether that would invalidate Obamas eligibility. But when there is a single mother, the biological father has NO legal relevance for matters like this.
Not necessarily when the father aknowledges paternity, which BHO Sr did in the divorce decree.
BTW, the divorce decree establishes that they were married. No marriage, no need for a divorce. Where they were married and under what laws, is another matter. The claim is that they were married on Maui, but no announcement nor license has shown up. Back in those days, and still today in some places, marriage license applications were reported in the newspaper. I recently checked, and they still are in my home town paper. They get the info from the county, not from the bride and groom.
If you think you can point to laws that say media or hospital cannot verify someone being hospitalized in Hawaii or anywhere in the US, then let us see the policies. There is no such thing. I think media and local newspapers will be happy to see your information to avoid lawsuits.
And look at that story again. They allege that there's no record of Stanley Anne Dunham anywhere, anytime. And yet we know that she died there. In a hospital. Or do you deny that, as well?
How can you prove it to be the true? Have you seen the hospital state Stanley Ann was in Straub? It is not illegal to say so unless Obama got some legal action and why would he do that when he wants us to believe the story? Have you seen Obama come out and state publically what he and Maya said was true regardless of the reports of the hospital?
I have hospital records and billing to prove where my family was hospitalized so there would be no doubt if I was asked. If it is true then why doesn't Obama speak up? I would be ticked off and very protective of my family if false accusations came out about their serious illness in the media or online. But then I would be by my mothers side when she was dying too.
By the way, what ever happened to the video that they were supposed to release documenting their attempts to get information? Did they ever release it? Are they hiding something?
By the way, why doesn't Obama just show his vault BC and get all this over with? Why does Obama continue to lie about his past and then get caught and change his story? Why doesn't Obama come out and just say, hey, all these lawsuits need to stop, here is my BC that was sealed. Obama consistently says he wants to move forward. With millions questioning him, UK and Russian articles of his usurper status, we will never move forward.
I have not researched about the video. Maybe it is coming out and maybe it is already out. It is one article of many where Obama's supposed hospitals of birth as Maya changed her story, were questioned.
People who have nothing to hide do not allow this to continue. You and I would not drive, enter school, (including college) get a passport or government position without ours. Simple document we all show to get by in the US. Why is your Obama thug any different?
Hamas and AhmadinDIJAD already feel Obama is one of them. Time to step up and show who and where his allegiance truly is. Nothing we know about Obama shows him to be loyal to the US.
Obama is a lying, fraudulent, terrorist allie, who does not belong in the White House.
Some established facts:
His mother and father resided and met in Hawaii, in the period not long before his birth. The mother got pregnant. Most pregnant women, especially those of limited means, don't travel to the other side of the Earth to have a baby. In fact pregnant women usually have a powerful urge to settle down and establish a home for the baby. Hawaii was probably the most accepting place in the US for mixed-race children in 1961. The father was involved in ongoing studies at the University of Hawaii. The father already had a wife in Kenya and didn't need trouble. The mother's parents were available in Hawaii to help prepare for the birth.
Therefore the most obvious place for Obama to have been born, unless proven otherwise, is Hawaii.
1. Sub-Yatsen was born in China yet had a COLB from Hawaii.
1. Google does not find a "Sub-Yatsen" except for one misspelling.
2. "Sub" is not a possible Mandarin Chinese syllable.
3. The famous leader Sun Yat-sen died in 1925.
2. Obamas half-sister was born in Indonesia yet had a COLB in Hawaii.
A lot of people are claiming on the Internet that Maya has a COLB, but how would they know?
LOL
even smaller
truman, show the link from vital statistics that in Hawaii they would send the Birth information to the newspaper, please?
I would like to see Mrs. Nelson, the teacher, bank account records
Dr. West talk about her patients with his daughter’s friend but Hospital refuses to release related record due to patient privacy?????????????????????
you don’t seem to understand the reasoning so let me ‘splain. Obama’s birth and hospital was reported in the newspaper, but it is a secret. You will have to be silenced now.
Who established these facts? Established would mean documented. In a court it would mean showing your birth certificate if asked or YOU would lose big time. We are deporting those with fake BC and SS now when we find them. How is Obama exempt from that?
Thanks for your comments... Another little thought is that in HI there were (and are) so many “mixtures” that a hapa haole baby is nothing unusual. I can’t remember reading about the “African” designation - think there may have been discussion about whether this was any kind of standard? I think the tentative conclusion was that race would have been “Negro”, not “African” which is not really an ethnic deignation at all. It’s a bit suspect, unless someone can come up with another [authentic] COLB from that general era that says “African” on it.
Don’t bother. She has been kneepadding for Obama now for months
That would be Craftsman. ;)
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