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SCOTUS message to the American people
Learn USA ^ | 01/20/2009 | Lynn M Stuter

Posted on 01/22/2009 7:56:16 PM PST by FreeAtlanta

SCOTUS message to the American people

January 20, 2009

On Wednesday, January 14, 2009, at the invitation of Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts, Also Known As Obama (hereafter known as AKA) and his sidekick, Joseph Biden, paid a visit to the United States Supreme Court, spending the better part of an hour sequestered in secrecy with eight of the nine United States Supreme Court Justices. Justice Alito was not in attendance.

According to an Associated Press release, written by Mark Sherman,

"When employees glimpsed Obama on his way out, a loud cheer went up in a building that exudes decorum."

Can one surmise the Supreme Court ecstatic over the illegitimate ...

The invitation of Chief Justice Roberts, the behind closed door meeting with a man who is the subject of lawsuits coming before the Supreme Court concerning his eligibility to the office of president, was not only inappropriate but leaves questionable the judicial conduct of the justices with whom AKA and Biden met.

Judges are to refrain from appearances of impropriety and partiality; from engaging in activities that compromise the mandate of an independent judiciary. According to the AP piece,

"Eight years ago, President George W. Bush did not visit the court before he took office, but the circumstances were — to put it mildly — unusual.

In December 2000, the court decided the case of Bush v. Gore by a 5-4 vote, ending the legal battle over the contested Florida election and effectively sealing the presidency for Bush."

The circumstances surrounding AKA are just as "unusual", considering the question of eligibility because of his refusal to produce the one document that would prove (or disprove) his eligibility to the office of president — his long form vault copy Hawaii birth certificate — a document that ....

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; obama
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To: CyberAnt
"Wouldn’t anybody want to avoid a Constitutional crisis - especially since 95% of all the blacks in this country would tear it apart if they thought for one moment - the white man - took away their black president."

This same sort of rationalizing allowed OJ Simpson to run around for 15 years or so pissing all over "the man" with his boorish behavior and his hangers on.

141 posted on 01/24/2009 7:25:10 AM PST by Radix (There are 2 kinds of people in this world. Those with loaded guns & those who dig. You dig.)
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To: mlo; Red Steel; Admin Moderator; Jim Robinson
How many times do people have to show you these things for you to stop lying and pretending that you have not seen them? ... "Do you realize that registration date could be bogus. The Obama COLB he showed the world is fraudulent." ... "There’s plenty of evidence that it is fraudulent." Red Steel ... "Name some outside of Polarik’s report." mlo

The 'Polarik' work is filed as evidentiary in the Berg suits and the following is filed as a portion of a legitimate exhibit in the Orly Taitz lawsuit in CA on behalf of Alan Keyes:

Sandra Ramey’s comments re Polarik: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2155990/posts [I wonder, did mlo post on that thread, showing he is once again trying to deceive readers by pretending there is no other witness to Obama's 'inadequate' Internet posting of a supposed CoLB?]

Full PDF version here: http://www.therightsideoflife.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/executedsandralinesdeclaration_1.pdf

"However, the bigger story to this lawsuit is the fact that forensic document examiner Sandra Ramsey Lines (pictured) has documented in an associated affidavit (PDF) the following:
2. I have reviewed the attached affidavit posted on the internet from “Ron Polarik,” [PDF] who has declined to provide his name because of a number of death threats he has received. After my review and based on my years of experience, I can state with certainty that the COLB presented on the internet by the various groups, which include the “Daily Kos,” the Obama Campaign, “Factcheck.org” and others cannot be relied upon as genuine. Mr. Polarik raises issues concerning the COLB that I can affirm. Software such as Adobe Photoshop can produce complete images or alter images that appear to be genuine; therefore, any image offered on the internet cannot be relied upon as being a copy of the authentic document.
3. Upon a cursory inspection of the internet COLB, one aspect of the image that is clearly questionable is the obliteration of the Certificate No. That number is a tracking number that would allow anyone to ask the question, “Does this number refer to the Certification of Live Birth for the child Barack Hussein Obama II?” It would not reveal any further personal information; therefore, there would be no justifiable reason for oliterating it.
4. In my experience as a forensic document examiner, if an original of any document exists, that is the document that must be examined to obtain a definitive finding of genuineness or non-genuineness. In this case, examination of the vault birth certificate for President-Elect Obama would lay this issue to rest once and for all.

Jim, this sort of deceit on the part of mlo --to name but one-- pretending there is nothing that has been shown at FR for weeks now repeatedly is why FR is losing credibility as a coservative website dedicated to the Constitutional framework. How many readers passing through FR daily see the lies of an mlo and don't happen to be back around when the exposure of the lies is posted? Allowing this deceit protecting these purposed deceivers using Alinsky methodology is devastating and quite useful to the obamanoid platoon. I don't support Freerepublic to give these liars a venue where they are protected as they lie and play Alinsky games repeatedly.

142 posted on 01/24/2009 8:17:04 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: shield
I had a dream a few weeks back, it was so shocking it woke me up. BO with Michelle beside him was announcing he was stepping down - resigning - he was not constitutionally legal to serve as President

I've had the same vision, except that Obama claims that he has an illness that forces him to resign.

143 posted on 01/24/2009 8:35:44 AM PST by Polarik ("A forgery created to prove a claim repudiates that claim")
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To: aruanan
Anytime one of these "Jerkers" jumps into their "Birthers" comments regarding Rules of Law, simply print the relevant Law and tell them to read it.

Case in point:

[§338-17.8] Certificates for children born out of State. (a) Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.

(b) Proof of legal residency shall be submitted to the director of health in any manner that the director shall deem appropriate. The director of health may also adopt any rules pursuant to chapter 91 that he or she may deem necessary or proper to prevent fraudulent applications for birth certificates and to require any further information or proof of events necessary for completion of a birth certificate.

(c) The fee for each application for registration shall be established by rule adopted pursuant to chapter 91. [L 1982, c 182, §1]

144 posted on 01/24/2009 9:13:27 AM PST by Polarik ("A forgery created to prove a claim repudiates that claim")
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To: Polarik

My was not a vision....it was a dream and those types of dreams are from The Lord.


145 posted on 01/24/2009 9:14:02 AM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: shield
All of mine come from G-d, also.
146 posted on 01/24/2009 9:44:31 AM PST by Polarik ("A forgery created to prove a claim repudiates that claim")
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To: Red Steel
"What is clear is that the author from "The Swamp" played word games to obfuscate, which misleads the reader that I pointed out in my above post."

You are seeing what you want to see. There was a direct question, with a direct answer.

147 posted on 01/24/2009 9:45:59 AM PST by mlo
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68
"I find it strange that you want a “Citation.” for a law,,,"

"Yet,,,You don’t want US to have/see the “Vault Copy” of"

You are making some incorrect assumptions. When someone makes a claim about Hawaiian law they should cite it. That way others know exactly what they are talking about. Also so that other readers, like you, will know what basis the claim has. Without proof none of these claims should be believed.

As for not wanting the vault copy to come out, I've got no problem with it coming out. I'd love for someone to get their hands on it. I'm just pointing out that it is not required, and that there is no reasonable doubt that if it does it will do anything but confirm what we already know.

148 posted on 01/24/2009 9:50:47 AM PST by mlo
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To: El Gato
"Also no matter what you say, I certainly can't see any evidence of the seal in the original "factcheck" supposedly scanned image. I'll bet others can't either."

The seal is impressions in the paper. It is harder to see in the scan. But it is there if you know where to look. I can see it. Polarik acknowledges that it is there.

149 posted on 01/24/2009 9:54:29 AM PST by mlo
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To: El Gato
In 1961, father's race would have been Negroid not african.

This is a dan Rather fake but accurate


150 posted on 01/24/2009 9:58:42 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: aruanan
Nobody has demonstrated that anyone born outside of Hawaii could get a COLB. That has been a popular claim, but in each case that someone provided a cite to back it up the claim depended on misreading and misunderstanding the law.

Having the original record on file, which was confirmed after the officials saw the internet document, is confirmation of birth in Hawaii. That one of the officials explicitly said so is gravy.

Either that or you believe the officials are in on it. But when you start accusing officials of lying and documents of forgery you are removing any foundation for knowing anything. Then you restrict yourself to weak stories that anyone can make up. It'll be JFK conspiracies all over again.

151 posted on 01/24/2009 10:02:08 AM PST by mlo
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To: aruanan
"Wow, you managed to cram four fallacies into three sentences. First and second are the genetic fallacy and ad hominem: "birther". Then there is the fallacy of petitio principii: "mythology". Finally, the fallacy of accent: "anyone born outside Hawaii can get one"."

They aren't fallacies because you disagree with them.

That there is a "birther mythology" is a fact. The term "birther" is not an ad hominem. As for the "anyone born outside Hawaii", I'm repeating a birther claim. Take it up with them.

152 posted on 01/24/2009 10:05:46 AM PST by mlo
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To: Polarik

Mine come from The Lord, Jesus Christ. ;o) Blessings to you for all the profound work you’ve done over the forged BO BC....no one took the time and the effort you did and I give you a heart felt THANK YOU.


153 posted on 01/24/2009 10:06:29 AM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: MHGinTN; mlo; Red Steel; Admin Moderator; Jim Robinson
"How many times do people have to show you these things for you to stop lying and pretending that you have not seen them?"

How many times do you have to asked to express your disagreements without attacking people?

The fact that the same claims have been repeated does not somehow make them true or unquestionable. Why don't I accuse you of lying for pretending you haven't seen the rebuttals?

154 posted on 01/24/2009 10:27:21 AM PST by mlo
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To: Polarik
See #150

155 posted on 01/24/2009 10:28:36 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: MHGinTN
Sandra Lines repeated the basic document examiner requirement of not being able to authenticate a document without having the original. Everything Lines said would have been true about any *authentic* document, that was scanned, redacted, and posted on the internet. A document examiner does not authenticate internet images.

Lines endorsed *none* of the forgery allegations that were made about this document.

These facts have also been repeated to you previously.

156 posted on 01/24/2009 10:32:15 AM PST by mlo
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To: Polarik
Thank you Polarik for going to the trouble of providing a cite. Some people seem to think it's not important.

This law provides a method through which parents might apply for a birth certificate for their child born elsewhere. Having a birth certificate is pretty much a requirement in this era and if you were out of the country when your child was born you might need recourse to method like ths. But it isn't carte blanche. They won't hand them out to just anyone.

"provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child."

There are rules. And it doesn't say the certificate will *lie* about anything, like where the child is born. In fact it shows a concern for fraud.

"The director of health may also adopt any rules pursuant to chapter 91 that he or she may deem necessary or proper to prevent fraudulent applications for birth certificates and to require any further information or proof of events necessary for completion of a birth certificate."

But even more importantly for us, do you know when this law was passed? Was it the law in 1961?

That bit at the bottom that looks like "[L 1982, c 182, §1]"? That means it was passed in 1982. Twenty one years after Obama was born.

157 posted on 01/24/2009 10:38:20 AM PST by mlo
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To: bronxboy

Dude there is no evidence. There is a case coming soon that will be able to get the evidence. 2010 should hopefully be good because a few million people are already furious at Barrack “no white male construction workers” Obama or Barrack “catch & release terrorists” Obama.

Wait until the white union workers who voted for him start getting replaced. Wait til the white young male and females who voted for him cannot get a job due to the economy and affrimative action on steroids. Wait until the young people who voted for him start getting drafted under Rangel’s military draft.

It will not take that long because one of these cases with military people will expose the emperor with no clothes. Our soldiers are expect to die defending the Constitution yet they have no standing? No it is going to happen.

Am I racist - no. I would be content with a real African-AMERICAN like Gov Paterson of NY as in boirn in America to American parrenst as in natural born American.

Paterson would be a lib but it appears in takes a blind man to transcend race. He picked a white woman, pro-NRA and anti bailout woman for Hillary’s seat. Yeah she is a Dem and probably Lib but probably less of a sell out than Juan McCain or Miss Lindsay Graham-nesty.


158 posted on 01/24/2009 10:53:44 AM PST by Frantzie
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To: mlo; Danae
Danae commented:"It’s all plausible. What’s more, is anyone in Hawaii in 1961 could have registered a birth. Regardless of where the baby was actually born, he could easily have been born in Kenya and brought to Hawaii and then registered as having been born at a STREET ADDRESS as opposed to a hospital. He would then have a Hawaii Certificate of birth, but still have been born in Kenya. All it would take would be for his mom and a witness to lie. No one would have asked for any proof whats so ever."

Mlo responded: What is your proof for this claim?

Mlo, you might want to take a reading comprehension course so you would be able to understand the difference between a claim and a supposition. There is one claim in Danae's remarks and that is that you can have a birth certified in Hawaii without being born there. It is done all the time, and in fact Bozo's sister has a certification of live birth from Hawaii but was born in Indonesia. This is known.

The rest of Danae's comment was supposition and no claims were made so no proof required.

159 posted on 01/24/2009 10:56:57 AM PST by calex59
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To: Quix

Just keep sending cases up to SCOTUS with AMERICAN citizens in the military who are risking their lives to defend the Constitution. Let SCOTUS tell them they have NO standing.

Send em up once a week. Once the members of the military find out, and they will, they will know they are being PLAYED and conned.

The public has zero faith in the financial system due to corruption with much of that coming from Congress - mandates to lend to people who cannot repay etc etc.

If the public and the military have no faith in the Constitution because we are all SERFS with no standing then there is no faith in the system. Thinks then start to fall apart just like the financial system.

Barrack “no white male construction workers” Obama has stirred upa hornet’s nest. Some judge is going to get tired of telling members of the military that they have NO standing or the military is going to get sick of being told they are SERFS.


160 posted on 01/24/2009 11:02:06 AM PST by Frantzie
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