Posted on 01/09/2009 8:28:39 PM PST by devere
Chief Justice John Roberts has sent a full-throated challenge of Barack Obamas presidential eligibility to conference: Lightfoot v. Bowen (SCOTUS docket page). I.O. interviewed Lightfoot lead attorney, Orly Taitz at 2:20pm CT, today, minutes after she learned of this move.
Taitz believes, This is Chief Justice Roberts telling the Congress the other eight Justices, that there is a problem with this election.
The Lightfoot case has legal standing, due to litigant, Libertarian Gail Lightfoots vice presidential candidacy in California. It also address two major issues of legal merit: 1. Obamas failure to provide legally evidentiary documentation of citizenship and American birth and, 2. his United Kingdom citizenship at birth, passed to him by his Kenyan father when that nation was a British colony. (Other current challenges also submit that Obamas apparent status as an Indonesian citizen, as a child, would have caused his American citizenship to be revoked.) This case is therefore considered the strongest yet, to be heard by the Supreme Court. Obama challenger, Philp Berg had previously been granted conference hearings, scheduled this Friday, 1/9 and on 1/16.
Roberts was submitted this case on 12/29, originally a petition for an injunction against the State of Californias Electoral College vote. His action comes one day before the Congress is to certify the Electoral College votes electing Barack Obama, 1/8. The conference called by Roberts is scheduled for 1/23. Orly Taitz is not deterred by the conference coming after the inauguration, which is to be held 1/20, If they find out that he was not eligible, then they can actually rescind the election; the whole inauguration and certification were not valid. The strongest time for legal and judicial rulings are generally after the fact.
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I would rather roll with those who think that we are being visited from beings from outer space than roll with those who believe that George W. Bush and Dick Cheney killed 3,000 Americans on 9/11.
I would rather roll with those who think that we are being visited from beings from outer space than roll with those who believe that George W. Bush and Dick Cheney killed 3,000 Americans on 9/11.
***So then pick one of the other 17 cases to roll with. Look at the title of the thread you’re posting on, troll:
Interview, Orly Taitz: Chief Justice Roberts Calls Conference on Obama Challenge: Lightfoot v. Bowen
Is Orly Taitz among your troother squad?
I have condemned the 9/11 & BC Truther Berg.
Have you?
You said — “I would rather roll with those who think that we are being visited from beings from outer space than roll with those who believe that George W. Bush and Dick Cheney killed 3,000 Americans on 9/11.”
LOL..., that’s funny...
But, for the record, I *do not* believe in alien civilizations more advanced than us, coming to earth and visiting here. I do believe what the Bible says, however, about His angels that do His bidding, according to His will. And I do believe that there are fallen angels. And I do believe that Jesus, the Messiah of Israel did cast out demons from people, as did the Apostles. Those are all factual things in the Bible.
Now, even *that* is too much for some people (to believe what the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob says about the world He has created) — but the Bible tells us about the world that God created, in the beginning and the world we live in now — and the world that is to come, here on earth, in the Millennial reign of Jesus the Messiah of Israel.
Some think that the “thinking” of the Bible (at least to “them”) is comparable to “alien abductions” from advanced aliens visiting here on earth... LOL..
I agree that American citizens, especially, military active, reserve and retired need to file suits against O in every Federal Court. BTW - how many are there?
The thing I like about you, Frantzie, is that you always ask me questions which I can not readily answer. I dont know how many Federal Courts exist in all the United States and US Territories, but let it suffice to say that there are a lot of Federal Courts and there are millions of Citizens who have Standing to sue bo, so now you see bos problem: There are overwhelming odds against bos political survival, if we the People do our duty and rise up against bo.
It's not a valid Certification of Live Birth if it is without a seal or a forged seal.
IIRC that "Seal" is from the Factcheck photos, not from the "scanned" image originally released. As I posted above, with the image, you can't see any evidence of the seal in the scanned image.
Am working on it. Back with results later.
Well, that may well be so.
But the fraction of the American electorate in favor of compulsory process to obtain Obama's birth certificate isn't "around half". It's closer to half a dozen.
And I think it's fair to describe that happy band of brothers as his enemies.
I have condemned the 9/11 & BC Truther Berg. Have you?
***No. I don’t freeping care about the 9/11 troother stuff. Those were his clients and if you hold all attorneys accountable for the views of his clients... you could never vote for someone like Thompson, for one. And even if it is his own viewpoint, it doesn’t matter to me because his lawsuit isn’t the only one on the radar. There are 16 others. His is a good case because he was first and he’s a democrat. Overlooking that due to some 9/11 viewpoint would be a poor use of resources on this effort. So I have answered your question, will you answer my questions? Probably not, because you’ve operated as a troll in the past on these CoLB threads. There are 14 or so other cases in the pipeline. Should the SCOTUS grant cert on any of these? The question is not WILL they, it is SHOULD they. If they should, why do you denigrate the constitutionalist activity on these threads? If they shouldn’t, why not?
Yes, of course it's a forgery - and not a very good one.
That doesn't change the fact that there is no requirement for production of the original document, and there isn't going to be one, either.
I agree that American citizens, especially, military active, reserve and retired need to file suits against O in every Federal Court.
There are millions of Citizens who have Standing to sue bo, so now you see bos problem: There are overwhelming odds against bos political survival, if we the People do our duty and rise up against bo.
There are now four court hours remaining before Chief Justice Roberts delivers the oath of office to BHO.
There are now four court hours remaining before Chief Justice Roberts delivers the oath of office to BHO.
***That doesn’t answer any question. What SHOULD they have done? And answer the other questions.
You said — “There are now four court hours remaining before Chief Justice Roberts delivers the oath of office to BHO.”
Now that you mention that and put it in those terms..., I was wondering if the following is *real* — in other words, do some FReepers actually think the following will happen.
I’ve seen some posts that say a Sheriff or Marshal will be ordered to go into the White House and escort Obama off the premises, because he’s not qualified. And they won’t let him back into the White House again.
Is this really true? Is it what some FReepers actually think will happen? I guess they were probably joking, but I can never tell, actually...
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Also, another one I was wondering about, if some FReeper posters *really* think this is true. I saw several post that the Chief Justice will go up to give Obama the oath of office — but first — he will ask for Obama’s birth certificate (or he won’t give the oath of office). Of course, I’m guessing that I’m missing the humor here, and that some FReepers are actually joking. That’s probably more like it. I can’t think that this will actually happen — or even more inconceivable, that some FReeper actually *thinks* it will happen.
Another variation of this theme is that the Chief Justice sends notice (ahead of time) that he’s not going to administer the oath of office and that’s his “protest” (or something like that). Again, probably another FReeper joking — but sometimes it’s hard to tell when they’re joking about these things...
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As for myself, I like the more rational methods — like me going to the Oklahoma state legislature and lobbying for the new state law that will require a Presidential Candidate to be properly vetted with specified documentation (in the law...). That’s my avenue. But, still, I really wonder, sometimes, if there are FReepers that think a Marshal will be escorting Obama out of the White House. Who knows...
And that, is that. If they aren't independent events then your statistical math is meaningless. End of point.
I clicked on it. I saw it. I even found a similar statement at another county.
When I say I'll check it out I didn't mean just reading the link. I'll get back to it one way or another.
That would happen if what he quoted actually contradicted me. But it didn't.
The bit about Hawaii not taking them is not true.
"Oh, but that bit is true since I read it from a Hawaiian DOH webpage a few days ago. However, your're in luck since I lost all my browser history and can not show you...for the moment."
Feel free to post it when you find it. But if it's the same one that's been posted several times, and it doesn't say they don't accept birth certificates as proof of identity. It's saying proof of identity isn't enough for that program, so they need more documentation.
He should be required to prove his eligibility to the officials responsibile.
I don't know that he hasn't done that. Having doubts about whether he was required to provide all the proof he should have been does not translate to evidence that he is in fact ineligible. There is no evidence of that so far.
And that, is that. If they aren’t independent events then your statistical math is meaningless. End of point.
***I would be MORE THAN HAPPY to have proof that these 2 independent events are not independent. Because that would mean that team zer0bama used the hayIBaPhorgerie document as their base for the electronic copy of the CoLB. So, thank you, I accept that my statistical math is meaningless — because the CoLB is an obvious forgery. Now what the lurkers will see is that the troll will try to find some way to hem & haw, back out of his statement, backtrack as much as he can, that kind of thing. Or it’ll just be crickets... that is a usual technique as well.
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