Posted on 01/03/2009 7:01:24 AM PST by dascallie
Last night Ed Hale presented the (heretofore, unseen) divorce decree on Plains Radio between Obama's mother and Obama Sr ( her FIRST marriage).
The key bonus in this was the revelation of the specific version of her name in the decree, Stanley Ann D. Obama.
Using this precise name variation ( the abbreviated, initial "D" --instead of 'Dunham', was the cipher that broke open the search), they are claiming to have now located a POE (Port of Entry ) document that Obama's mother provided when she returned to the US with her son--soon after Obama's birth, (allegedly in Kenya).
The POE allegedly includes Obama's birth information/certificate ( British Kenya) as required for entry. Stay tuned for events...see other comments below. -------------------------------------------------- DesertVet Newbie
Posts: 11 Re: Obama-Dunham 1964 DIVORCE DECREE Forthcoming « Reply #53 on: January 02, 2009, 09:39:16 PM » ***********Stanley Ann D. Obama*************
No secret I've been highly skeptical on this whole ordeal. I'm now beginning to think this could very well lead the way to the smoking gun. Until this document she has only been known as "Dunham", no where in public records has Obama's Mothers name read as it does on this divorce decree. I believe the "D" being abreviated has allowed them to locate her records. This has led them to a "port of entry" birth certificate for Barack Obama. She submitted this POE certificate when she came back to the US, and the fact that there is a POE Certificate...proves that he was indeed born out of the country.
This would mean that Obama has never been through Immigration & Naturalization Services in his life, he became a citizen of Indonesia, and never applied for a U.S. passport. If this is the case, then he's not even a citizen, let alone a natural born citizen.
I'm not 100% certain on my assertion of above take on this document issue, but I think it is HIGHLY plausible. I'm still not ready to dance in the streets by any means yet (Yeah, I'm a tough sell). But I am quite intriguied at the moment. Couldn't say that earlier today.
Yes, I just checked expedia and the return flight would go from Kenya to Nairobi, Nairobi to London, from London to Los Angeles, LA to Honolulu.
I'm not arguing with you, just pointing out that she may not have thought the same things were important.
Perhaps today, but in the 60’s Pan American Airways didn’t transit the US on their “Hawaii Clipper” route. There were a few Western gateway cities to Honolulu.
The Eastern flights pretty much stuck to the East and the Western to the West. The logical route would go East from Kenya as opposed to transiting that continent as well as North America. And conversely West from Honolulu to Kenya on the Eastern edge of Africa. I don’t believe Pan Am had an African point of origin in the early 60’s but I could be wrong so it would have had to been a foreign carrier.
This is all speculation, however, because she very well could have used British Airways which would have likely required a London stop and an Eastern point of entry. Or East African Airways which only flew intra-Africa and to Europe.
I have a special affinity for the history of South Pacific travel as my grandmother was one of the first female Pan Am flight attendants. ;-)
So true. One thing that seems to be certain is his mama seemed determined to be as outrageous as possible. From the nakey pictures, to interracial dating in the 50’s and early 60’s, to the marrying of muslims and moving to Indonesia villages. Everything seemed to be as counterculture as possible in her world.
The scrutiny given the application for one- is negligible or nonexistent for a newly elected Senator. One of Obummer’s imperious minions, after his selection to US Senate, would merely snap a finger and State would have issued him a VIP passport for his “official travel”. And no doubt he considers all his travel as official and VIP. So his having a US passport NOW, does not eliminate doubts as to his US citizenship
Frankly, all of the US Constitution is based on “technicalities”... it is merely one man's opinion or another what is a “technicality”. That is the whole reason for the USSC. They determine black and white from gray “technicalities. Otherwise, we have chaos as each person makes their own decision what is a mere “technicality”. We are in sad shape that even the Founder's efforts to be precise with enumerated powers are now mere “technicalities” having been destroyed by the uncontrolled actions of unchallenged legislative and executive branches. Congressman Ron Paul tried to challenge Congress unconstitutional revenue raising actions and was told he did not have "standing". Thus far in trying to challenge Obummer, "no one has STANDING"
If defined citizenship is a “technicality” to Obummer, then so are other parts of the US Constitution, soon tbd. Pick that carcass of its “technicalities” often enough and soon it will wither.
We are now exposed to a clean cut articulate (with pharmaceutical help) hustler like Obummer, to stand up there with his bony hand on Lincoln's Bible, swearing under “God” to support and defend the Constitution he just pimped, having pulled the supreme audacious scam of US history, with full compliance of the public, the govt and media, to lead us further away from being one nation under a Constitutional framework, and into the moral and civil jungle of “whasshappeningnow”
That’s a possibility....We are brain storming here....Jst thinking of different possibilities....At long as they stay logical, they ARE reasonable.
Wish we had a data sight where we can actually do some of the research....but this will have to do for now.
FROM:
http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244
...”Plains Radio Network Monday night, 7 eastern time. Another bomb shell will land in Obama’s playground...”
Perhaps it is now time we had a process for checking out POTUS and VP candidates for the future. I suspect it is too late for the issue to make any difference to Obama's inauguration.
Have often wondered if the reason Michelle did not travel with him on his Summer Tour was because she didn’t have or couldn’t get a passport....Just a thought.
One of her high school friends in state of Washington recounts Stanley showing up at her house with a newborn infant .... she did not know how to diaper
This odd little ancedote suggests Stanley did travel solo with her newborn- perhaps flying into Canada (from Honolulu... or Kenya?) and then traveling to State of Washington, which was her real hometown
Of course....you may share as much credit as you like for perpetuating this nonsense. I’ll even throw in the API fraud and the Sinclair circus for free.
Or perhaps she was too PO’d, given exposure of his affair with Vera Baker, who was subsequently banished to Barbados
Note that Michelle went on NONE of the family outings in Honolulu except the ash dump. This was and is an angry woman.
Michelle for the next 4 years gets the chance to stand by her man...but probably without Hillary Clinton’s soft shoulder to cry on
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That's my point genius....there has been no evidence shown. But don't let that dim your enthusiasm.
You have the 1961 flight routes? Check routes from Kenya back to/through Vancouver Canada
but babies still need to eat and therefore be changed...No pampers available then... Granted she may have breast fed him, but she must carry both clean and dirty dydees with her....Add in she was not considered to be very motherly by friends IIRC.....
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"In addition to..."
IOW, one must first hold a valid US passport in order to obtain the "in addition to" document.
She has stories, I'll bet.
I assume Biden steps in if Obama is not Pres? (no matter what I dont think O will be denied Presidency)
I contend Obama never has had to follow ANY or the rules of “you are supposed” to, if he didn’t want to
If he wanted/needed a black/VIP passport for Senate travel, he could get one same day without the documents the rest of us little people would have to produce. Just send one of his imperious black minions like Valerie Jarrett over there to get in the face of the State Dept bureaucracy and DEMAND her master be served
My bet
I see that we are in agreement on something... that- I am a genius. My family is going to be SO surprised. ;o)
Her anger stems from her deep and abiding hatred, perhaps only vaguely and recently redirected from the nation which has given her so much opportunity. Some folks can’t help but bite the hand, don’tchaknow. Sit in Wright’s hate filled church fro twenty years and see what kindness bubbles from you. Only the whites int hat church seem meek. Defiant hatred is the hallmark of the black people interviewed from that church. It’s the harvest of black liberation theology. It’s not from the Svior, it’s from ‘another source’ of spiritual power.
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