Posted on 12/28/2008 12:31:55 PM PST by GreatOne
Q What corrections might (still) be made to the vote tallies?
A Last week, staffers at the secretary of state's office reported the votes on 6,655 challenged ballots to the state canvassing board. These are ballots that one of the campaigns questioned as unclear or invalid. The campaigns withdrew many of these challenges, leaving the board with about 1,300 to judge. The board determined during the third week of December how to count those. Last weekend, staffers included those judgments along with the local elections officials' judgments on the other 5,200 in the recount total. Both campaigns said some errors were made in recording those votes, and each questioned the recording of the votes in about three dozen cases. On Tuesday, the state canvassing board will review those questions and make adjustments to the vote totals.
Q OK, corrections will be made this week. And then we're done, right?
A Nope. In the first week of January, the secretary of state will count the votes on improperly rejected absentee ballots. These are ballots that local election officials left out of their tallies simply by accident. According to a plan suggested by state and county officials and the campaigns, all of those ballots will be sent to the state by Jan. 2; the votes on them will be counted by Jan. 4; and the state canvassing board will deal with the results on Jan. 5 and 6.
Q And who will figure out which ballots were improperly rejected?
A The state Supreme Court ordered that the Franken campaign, the Coleman campaign and local elections officials must agree that a ballot was mistakenly rejected in order for it to be sent to the state. Any of the three parties would have veto power.
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Why do you think there was fraud before and during the election? It wasn't for the benefit of the votes taken on election day, but for the recount that would happen should a close race come down to a recount. This is what the ACORN nonsense is all about, and why it was happening in states that were identified as having close contests. So stating that there have been no shenanigans in the recount is mostly incorrect.
No “stealing” of the election has occurred, excepting #1 above.
Harry Reid has pretty much guaranteed he won’t allow Coleman to be seated if he is declared the winner. Would you change your mind if that happened?
> Franken sitting in the Senate will make a mockery of the body.
Considering the current composition of the Senate, that would be a tough job even for a professional dress-up clown like Franken.
Maybe they need a new electorate or something.
No. I think that people illegally voted in Minnesota, which is an ACORN staple. Hard to prove, but we all know it happened. The purpose of my post is to demonstrate that the recount process, barring the one decision of the State Canvassing Board to include the 133 “missing” ballots, has been on the up-and-up, with no basis to claim that Franken is stealing the election. It’s not Washington 2004, in other words.
The Democrats refusing to seat Coleman, if he wins, would definitely be a steal of the election. I highly doubt that would occur, as the recount process has been on the up-and-up (excepting the SCB’s 133 “missing” ballot inclusion, which favored Dems, so shouldn’t matter), without the going back and forth like happened in Deleware.
Agreed. I cannot figure out my fellow voters. They elect the most liberal member of the Senate, Wellstone, in 1992, then 4 years later elect someone who campaigned as a solid conservative, Rod Grams. I have no explanation for Ventura, other than people thought it would be cool to see him in the governor’s seat. That worked great.
I have read that on several threads here and I believe it relates to quotes straight from the Dem Senate leadership. Whether they would actually do it is another question. They would certainly be handing an enormous club to the Republicans to beat them. Whether the pubbies would have the fortitude to do that I seriously doubt.
As Rick Mcintyre of Indiana came to learn in '84,it matters not one bit if your state has officially certified you as having won a Congressional election.Harry Reid,being a leading figure in an utterly amoral party *will* declare Frankenstein the winner.
Regardless.
I would argue that the discrepancy in the way votes have been counted, as has been dissected several times here at FR, shows the Democrats stealing this seat - along with the 133 double counts. There is a clear double-standard that has been applied to questioned votes, as Coleman has decried loudly.
We have seen several examples of Coleman votes being discarded - votes nearly exactly the same cast as Franken votes that got counted. As a matter of simple intellectual honesty, there has been a clear double standard.
There is theft happening, and I have yet to hear a credible theory as to ANY way Coleman can still WIN this seat.
And yes, Pawlenty calling a questionable process (as mentioned above) pure and holy isn't helping things. He should express some opinions on the questionable decisions, at the very least. Right now, the only involvement he's had has been to talk about how immaculate and prefect the process has been - the process which currently sees a pretty clear theft happening.
I would dare say that to folks like myself, any chance Pawlenty has of being anything other than the Governor of Minnesota - EVER - depends on how the very, very, very, very important Senate race recount turns out on his watch. If Franken steals this via the aforementioned combination of crap, all I'm going to remember is Pawlenty casting blessing on Al Franken and walking him hand-in-hand to the Senate building in Washington.
Too much has happened in front of us for me to accept that “that's the way the ball bounces” excuses Pawlenty’s shortfallings in this recount.
A mockery of the body?
Surely you jest? The body is a mockery. Just what the heck is ax “professional politician” ? Our entire system of government has become one huge joke. This is not what the foundersenvisioned when they designed the system. I doubdt they ever thought that oour congress would consist almost entirely of lawyers. Franken may be a bad comedian, but hey, at least he’s not a lawyer.
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This subject makes me physically ill. I am trying my best to avoid it.
It's all about power. The only difference between the Republicans and the Democrats is that the Republicans amass power a little more slowly than the Democrats, and the Democrats are better liars.
The inconsistencies in allocation of ballots seem to be liberal chicanery at its most blatant.
Hillary, Byrd, Reid, Pelosi, Frank and Kennedy already have.
Amen.
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