Posted on 12/03/2008 8:14:35 AM PST by Scythian
This birth certificate issue has been going on for some time now and for those hoping for some kind of dramatic outcome you are in for another big disappointment.
First, there is always the chance that there is a valid birth certificate proving Obama to be a US citizen.
Second, enough time has passed such that the Obama cult has manufactured and installed a phony certificate that will re-route us back up to option 1 above, he will have a valid certificate. Who do you think works in these kinds of government offices? They're all democrats.
Third, no court is going to force Obama to prove himself to be a citizen, the burden is on those making the accusation that he is not a citizen. A criminal doesn't have to prove he didn't commit a crime, the state has to prove that he did.
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Flame on, and sorry for the Vanity, but this is driving me nutz, this issue gets my hopes up but then common sense dashes my hope on the rocks, and this now is a daily occurrence. You are going to find a valid certificate at the end of this road if you are lucky enough to get a judge to demand it, and that is very unlikely, whether the certificate be real or phony it won't matter, and will never be able to proven either way.
I disagree with #3. I think that the Constitution puts the burden on presidential candidates to prove that they are a natural-born US citizen regardless of privacy issues if this point is challenged. Why would anybody else have the burden of proof?
I’m sure you must have been shown this before, but here it is again:
At the time of Obama’s birth his mother was not four full years past her fourteenth birthdate so she was not able to pass citizenship to him on the grounds you tried to float. Nice try though. The dissonance factor is at work with too many inattentive among We The People ...
That person also claims she bribed all these hospitals, a crime in itself if true (I’m with you, probably BS.)
Instead they’ll make those asking for proof look foolish.
***You’re absolutely right, and that has been the standard playbook for a while. That’s why the MSM was caught off guard when Paula Jones’s case proved to have steel, and they’ll be caught off guard when the SCOTUS asks for the vault copy of the BC.
There was also a mention (somewhere) that he was adopted by his mother’s parents in order to stay in Hawaii as a teen.
There is a possibility that Barack’s real father could be Frank Marshal Davis. Kind of shoots “Dreams of My Father” all to hell.
***Then his judgement comes into question, as stated previously upthread. He won the election, so he can weather the storm of embarrassment.
Democrats control both houses of the legislature in 23 states; Republicans in 15 and 11 are split. This adds up to 49 states because Nebraska's legislature is nonpartisan.
With a constitutional convention they could do as was done in 1787 and generate a completely new document. Get it ratified by 3/4's of the states (of which they have 2/3's already) and poof, health care is a right, guns are illegal, presidential term limits are gone, "natural born" is gone and "naturalized" is in for president, and on and on. That's the real goal here...the crisis is the means to the goal.
Thanks for the repeat. It is worthy of repeating isn’t it.
This election cycle it was so bad, that even the left admits they knew next to nothing about the guy after the election. Who is to blame for that if not themselves?
Good response, beat me to it.
The first part of your statement is based on the Constitution. The parenthetical, however, is not based on either the Constitution or Federal law- it is wholly of your own creation.
I dearly hope you're right, but remember it was Ken Starr who was the final casuality in the Paula Jones affair.
I would bet that you’re right on this.
WHY DONT WE SEE ONE WORD OF THIS IN ANY OF THE MEDIA?
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IMHO, the media does not want to be responsible for starting the riots this is going to cause.
When the truth comes out, it will be “whitey” who fabricated this and civil unrest will prevalent in every urban area across the country. Makes me glad to be rural.
But again, if the media started feeding on this and airing it daily, whether positive to us or negative against us, the unrest would have started already.
No media outlet would want to be responsible for that. I do want to note, however, this does not take away my loathing for the MSM. They caused this in the first place by blowing off Acorn, voter fraud and overseas funding. They are truly P’s of S!!!
Keep your ammo dry and make good friends with your neighbors!!!!
The one being aged by forgers as we type will have Davis as father, to assert Obamanoid is a citizen by that means.
There was also a mention (somewhere) that he was adopted by his mothers parents in order to stay in Hawaii as a teen.
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That is new on me, but certainly a possibility!!!
The one being aged by forgers as we type will have Davis as father, to assert Obamanoid is a citizen by that means.
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Think “Lingle, friend of Palin”
If Jim does not purge some of the long time dim operatives... this place will become as useless as town hall.
LLS
Fox News about to do a brief on Hillery’s stumbling block to SOS...the last time they followed it up with a blurb on Obomination Birth Cert issue...on commercial break now
bttt
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