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Beware Birth Certificate Hopefuls - You are in for quite a suprise (vanity)

Posted on 12/03/2008 8:14:35 AM PST by Scythian

This birth certificate issue has been going on for some time now and for those hoping for some kind of dramatic outcome you are in for another big disappointment.

First, there is always the chance that there is a valid birth certificate proving Obama to be a US citizen.

Second, enough time has passed such that the Obama cult has manufactured and installed a phony certificate that will re-route us back up to option 1 above, he will have a valid certificate. Who do you think works in these kinds of government offices? They're all democrats.

Third, no court is going to force Obama to prove himself to be a citizen, the burden is on those making the accusation that he is not a citizen. A criminal doesn't have to prove he didn't commit a crime, the state has to prove that he did.

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Flame on, and sorry for the Vanity, but this is driving me nutz, this issue gets my hopes up but then common sense dashes my hope on the rocks, and this now is a daily occurrence. You are going to find a valid certificate at the end of this road if you are lucky enough to get a judge to demand it, and that is very unlikely, whether the certificate be real or phony it won't matter, and will never be able to proven either way.


TOPICS: US: Hawaii; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; constitution; obama; obamatransitionfile; obamatruthfile; whathospital
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To: Scythian; All
Third, no court is going to force Obama to prove himself to be a citizen, the burden is on those making the accusation that he is not a citizen. A criminal doesn't have to prove he didn't commit a crime, the state has to prove that he did.

I disagree with #3. I think that the Constitution puts the burden on presidential candidates to prove that they are a natural-born US citizen regardless of privacy issues if this point is challenged. Why would anybody else have the burden of proof?

221 posted on 12/03/2008 10:41:48 AM PST by Amendment10
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To: rgboomers

I’m sure you must have been shown this before, but here it is again:

At the time of Obama’s birth his mother was not four full years past her fourteenth birthdate so she was not able to pass citizenship to him on the grounds you tried to float. Nice try though. The dissonance factor is at work with too many inattentive among We The People ...


222 posted on 12/03/2008 10:41:59 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Citizen Blade

That person also claims she bribed all these hospitals, a crime in itself if true (I’m with you, probably BS.)


223 posted on 12/03/2008 10:42:06 AM PST by mnehring
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To: skeeter

Instead they’ll make those asking for proof look foolish.
***You’re absolutely right, and that has been the standard playbook for a while. That’s why the MSM was caught off guard when Paula Jones’s case proved to have steel, and they’ll be caught off guard when the SCOTUS asks for the vault copy of the BC.


224 posted on 12/03/2008 10:43:41 AM PST by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)
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To: MHGinTN
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225 posted on 12/03/2008 10:44:19 AM PST by IrishPennant (He that is good for making excuses is seldom good for anything else.)
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To: IrishPennant

There was also a mention (somewhere) that he was adopted by his mother’s parents in order to stay in Hawaii as a teen.


226 posted on 12/03/2008 10:44:34 AM PST by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.))
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To: Harley

There is a possibility that Barack’s real father could be Frank Marshal Davis. Kind of shoots “Dreams of My Father” all to hell.
***Then his judgement comes into question, as stated previously upthread. He won the election, so he can weather the storm of embarrassment.


227 posted on 12/03/2008 10:45:14 AM PST by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)
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To: DoughtyOne
Can anyone have the balls to run, and not be eligible? I have stated in the past that I believe that this whole BC thing is a setup for a constitutional crisis by the democRATS. The opportunity to force a constitutional convention where they are holding the upper hand.

Democrats control both houses of the legislature in 23 states; Republicans in 15 and 11 are split. This adds up to 49 states because Nebraska's legislature is nonpartisan.

With a constitutional convention they could do as was done in 1787 and generate a completely new document. Get it ratified by 3/4's of the states (of which they have 2/3's already) and poof, health care is a right, guns are illegal, presidential term limits are gone, "natural born" is gone and "naturalized" is in for president, and on and on. That's the real goal here...the crisis is the means to the goal.

228 posted on 12/03/2008 10:46:29 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Never underestimate the ability of a liberal to deny reality and attempt to change the rules to do s)
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To: MHGinTN

Thanks for the repeat. It is worthy of repeating isn’t it.

This election cycle it was so bad, that even the left admits they knew next to nothing about the guy after the election. Who is to blame for that if not themselves?


229 posted on 12/03/2008 10:46:37 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Okay lefties... the problem with wanting something, is that you sometimes get it. Good luck now!)
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To: My hearts in London - Everett

Good response, beat me to it.


230 posted on 12/03/2008 10:46:50 AM PST by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)
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To: Helen
However to be President, you must be a natural born citizen (born of two American citizens on American soil).

The first part of your statement is based on the Constitution. The parenthetical, however, is not based on either the Constitution or Federal law- it is wholly of your own creation.

231 posted on 12/03/2008 10:47:00 AM PST by Citizen Blade (What would Ronald Reagan do?)
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To: Kevmo
That’s why the MSM was caught off guard when Paula Jones’s case proved to have steel, and they’ll be caught off guard when the SCOTUS asks for the vault copy of the BC.

I dearly hope you're right, but remember it was Ken Starr who was the final casuality in the Paula Jones affair.

232 posted on 12/03/2008 10:47:00 AM PST by skeeter (Its Barry's fault)
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To: mnehrling

I would bet that you’re right on this.


233 posted on 12/03/2008 10:51:52 AM PST by Gator113 ("Noli nothis permittere te terere.")
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To: B4Ranch

WHY DON’T WE SEE ONE WORD OF THIS IN ANY OF THE MEDIA?

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IMHO, the media does not want to be responsible for starting the riots this is going to cause.

When the truth comes out, it will be “whitey” who fabricated this and civil unrest will prevalent in every urban area across the country. Makes me glad to be rural.

But again, if the media started feeding on this and airing it daily, whether positive to us or negative against us, the unrest would have started already.

No media outlet would want to be responsible for that. I do want to note, however, this does not take away my loathing for the MSM. They caused this in the first place by blowing off Acorn, voter fraud and overseas funding. They are truly P’s of S!!!

Keep your ammo dry and make good friends with your neighbors!!!!


234 posted on 12/03/2008 10:53:22 AM PST by IrishPennant (He that is good for making excuses is seldom good for anything else.)
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To: Harley

The one being aged by forgers as we type will have Davis as father, to assert Obamanoid is a citizen by that means.


235 posted on 12/03/2008 10:53:42 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: hocndoc

There was also a mention (somewhere) that he was adopted by his mother’s parents in order to stay in Hawaii as a teen.

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That is new on me, but certainly a possibility!!!


236 posted on 12/03/2008 10:54:17 AM PST by IrishPennant (He that is good for making excuses is seldom good for anything else.)
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To: MHGinTN

The one being aged by forgers as we type will have Davis as father, to assert Obamanoid is a citizen by that means.

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Think “Lingle, friend of Palin”


237 posted on 12/03/2008 10:56:48 AM PST by IrishPennant (He that is good for making excuses is seldom good for anything else.)
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To: IrishPennant

If Jim does not purge some of the long time dim operatives... this place will become as useless as town hall.

LLS


238 posted on 12/03/2008 10:57:27 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!! so sue me!)
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To: IrishPennant

Fox News about to do a brief on Hillery’s stumbling block to SOS...the last time they followed it up with a blurb on Obomination Birth Cert issue...on commercial break now


239 posted on 12/03/2008 10:57:58 AM PST by IrishPennant (He that is good for making excuses is seldom good for anything else.)
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To: IrishPennant

bttt


240 posted on 12/03/2008 10:59:14 AM PST by petercooper (1/20/13 - Change I can believe in.)
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