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Constitutional crisis looming over Obama's birth location
World Net Daily ^ | 11/14/08 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 11/14/2008 7:05:09 PM PST by solfour

The California secretary of state should refuse to allow the state's 55 Electoral College votes to be cast in the 2008 presidential election until President-elect Barack Obama verifies his eligibility to hold the office, alleges a California court petition filed on behalf of former presidential candidate Alan Keyes and others.

The legal action today is just the latest is a series of challenges, some of which have gone as high as the U.S. Supreme Court, over the issue of Obama's status as a "natural-born citizen," a requirement set by the U.S. Constitution.

WND senior reporter Jerome Corsi even traveled to Kenya and Hawaii prior to the election to investigate issues surrounding Obama's birth. But his research and discoveries only raised more questions.

The biggest question is why Obama, if a Hawaii birth certificate exists, simply hasn't ordered it made available to settle the rumors.

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To: pa mom

The short form hasn’t been released either, as far as I know.


881 posted on 11/15/2008 5:34:37 PM PST by cake_crumb (Waiting for Dear Leader Obama to drop sea levels and heal Earth.)
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To: solfour

Why did he not go to the funeral of his grandmother? The campaign was over and he won..how convenient that she was the only one who knew his true birthplace?


882 posted on 11/15/2008 5:35:47 PM PST by truthingod
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To: pa mom
“From what I have read, the long form is not released by the state. The O camp released what is normally sufficient to prove birth, even for passports, etc.”

“And even if there is proof that Obama is not eligible to hold the office of President...It won’t matter...”

None of this answer the question I asked. Give one rational reason Obama wouldn't let anyone view it right now and end all the speculation.

What the O camp released is normally sufficient when it doesn't look like a forgery.

883 posted on 11/15/2008 5:36:15 PM PST by bluescape (The American media, The guard dog that holds you down while the attacker has his way.)
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To: thesetruths; pa mom

“So you think bitterness is motivating Keyes?

Prove it.”

Additionally, Mr. Keyes is basically Mr. Outsider to begin with it seems to me. Something that might make one bitter is being snubbed in being allowed to debate as my foggy memory recollects and also mentioned in these forums. Hence, if one might allege Alan Keyes to be bitter about some things, well, I’m sure, we could line up quite a few incidences.

There is so much detail here, I get lost because I’ve been following more or less, all of these Birth Certificate threads for some time as well as Schlusser’s (spelling?) site dealing with the selective service records and commentary there.


884 posted on 11/15/2008 5:36:32 PM PST by RGPII (Stand your ground!)
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To: little jeremiah

We have no idea whose home was used for the listing in the birth announcement. I believe that Grandma Dunham through her position as mortgage administrator at Bankoh kew of a safe address to use when registering the birth which i turn generated the birth announcement. That area is very high price costing mega bucks and even with both Dunhams working they could not have afforded to live there, especially considering that it is on the water side of the island! Most homes in that area were built by mega buck snowbirds.


885 posted on 11/15/2008 5:36:45 PM PST by Chief Engineer
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To: thesetruths

It is reasonable to think that some form of bitterness is motivating Keyes, yet so what? We have a duty to turn those bad emotional drives to the good when we can, that’s better than chopping of our arm because it once swung a bat in anger. Ask any home run king.


886 posted on 11/15/2008 5:37:17 PM PST by bvw
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To: cake_crumb

Alan...run for president again. We love you! We respect your constitutional integrity.


887 posted on 11/15/2008 5:39:15 PM PST by truthingod
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To: solfour

I’ve noticed that as well.... These cases are popping up in other States as well.

Have you seen this enclosed citizenship petition against Obama:

http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244


888 posted on 11/15/2008 5:39:21 PM PST by real_patriotic_american
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To: jamese777
Those who don’t believe that Obama was born in the USA will never be convinced by any document. ALL documents can be forged.

You got that right, forged!!!

At that time in 1961 you did NOT used the term AFRICAN, you know what I mean???

889 posted on 11/15/2008 5:40:59 PM PST by danamco
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To: little jeremiah

Cavill did use tin foil. See http://www.cavill.com.au/pages.asp?area=25&page=106 Just saying.


890 posted on 11/15/2008 5:41:14 PM PST by bvw
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To: MississippiMan
This, my FRiends, is what a coup d'bureaucracy looks like.

Great phrase!

891 posted on 11/15/2008 5:42:30 PM PST by livius
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To: danamco

Yes, in 1961 they would not have used African! They may have used continent, however. lol


892 posted on 11/15/2008 5:46:19 PM PST by Boardwalk
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To: pa mom

I have not read the whole thread and am hoping you have been educated enough on this issue by then, but I can’t continue to read your posts without comment.

YOU need to read the background on this issue. It seems like you are stepping in with very strong opinions on this BC issue , but have no knowledge of the facts.

This is not paranoia. The document which was presented to the public via the web is probably a fake.

No way to fully know because the registration number in the top right corner was blacked out.

Any future documents he produces for examination should (if it is real) show a # that is traceable and real.

There is so much more info on this subject, but many of us have answered the same questions, over and over and over again.

If you want to be taken seriously then read the background of this. Then present your arguments. Right now you are just grasping at straws that have already been thrown away.

You should do some background reading and educate yourself.


893 posted on 11/15/2008 5:46:54 PM PST by Aurorales
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To: pa mom

The newspaper announcement doesn’t mean anything. I have a cousin that was born in Arizona. Her birth announcement was in the local paper here in Oregon, because that is where the mother grew up. The grandmother here called it in to the Oregon paper. This was not unusual in the 1950’s & 1960’s. The announcement here didn’t mention that she was born in Arizona, and not in Oregon.

Many newspapers would print birth announcements for free if it only included the parents names, the childs name, and the date of the birth. If you wanted a fancier announcement with more details in it then you had to pay for that. Most people didn’t pay for extra wording in the announcement.


894 posted on 11/15/2008 5:48:17 PM PST by Flamenco Lady
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To: Chief Engineer

Thank you, I remember your comments on one of the other threads that discussed that birth announcement.


895 posted on 11/15/2008 5:48:27 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: bvw

Okay, so I spelled “cavil” wrong! I kind of was thinking it might only have one l.


896 posted on 11/15/2008 5:49:18 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: Flamenco Lady

First job of fledgling newspaper reporters: births and obits.


897 posted on 11/15/2008 5:49:46 PM PST by thesetruths
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To: thesetruths; bvw
"And what about the rights of live babies who are left to die after an 'unsuccessful' abortion?"

"Is the Constitution strong enough for them?"

Not if it's above the Anointed One's pay grade, no doubt. Be afraid, be very afraid...and stock up on ammo.

898 posted on 11/15/2008 5:49:51 PM PST by cake_crumb (Waiting for Dear Leader Obama to drop sea levels and heal Earth.)
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To: thesetruths

That would be murder. Murder is unlawful even without a Constitution.


899 posted on 11/15/2008 5:50:16 PM PST by bvw
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To: truthingod

What I can’t believe that hasn’t been mentioned is:

- he suddenly (3 days later) goes to HI to see his grandmother who was gravely hill
- says his grandmother won’t make it to see him elected while he’s in HI
- “Toot” is doing much better according to Michelle a few days later
- don’t hear anything else in the news about “toot” all week
- she suddenly dies the night before the election

Hmmmm .... coincidental that BHO called her death before the election? Maybe we should do an autopsy on grandma.


900 posted on 11/15/2008 5:50:43 PM PST by Free America52
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