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Constitutional crisis looming over Obama's birth location
World Net Daily ^ | 11/14/08 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 11/14/2008 7:05:09 PM PST by solfour

The California secretary of state should refuse to allow the state's 55 Electoral College votes to be cast in the 2008 presidential election until President-elect Barack Obama verifies his eligibility to hold the office, alleges a California court petition filed on behalf of former presidential candidate Alan Keyes and others.

The legal action today is just the latest is a series of challenges, some of which have gone as high as the U.S. Supreme Court, over the issue of Obama's status as a "natural-born citizen," a requirement set by the U.S. Constitution.

WND senior reporter Jerome Corsi even traveled to Kenya and Hawaii prior to the election to investigate issues surrounding Obama's birth. But his research and discoveries only raised more questions.

The biggest question is why Obama, if a Hawaii birth certificate exists, simply hasn't ordered it made available to settle the rumors.

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To: seekthetruth

I’ll put my 3 best agents on it (me, myself and I) right now.


2,001 posted on 11/17/2008 8:41:41 PM PST by freepersup (!)
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To: bergmeid

It’s the only explanation. Occam’s razor.

That Augusta NBC affiliate breaking it.. then scrubbing it.. that was strange.


2,002 posted on 11/17/2008 8:43:00 PM PST by txhurl (somebody just bought 12 Carrier Battle Groups for 600 million dollars)
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To: STARWISE

America is hardly recognizable. The signs have been around for a long time and Obama* is able to capitalize now. I really hope it is not too late, yet all the signs point to disaster. So it has been written, and so it seems to be unfolding now, in the timeframe when it was predicted ages ago.


2,003 posted on 11/17/2008 8:43:22 PM PST by Boardwalk
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To: freepersup

He sure has clarified and focused
my thinking about what IS supposed
to be and what really IS.

Like he said, we can look away when
small violations, then bigger ones,
then next think you know .. our
country is gone, because the rule
of law was so disrespected and
undefended.

Pray for our country .. our beloved
America.


2,004 posted on 11/17/2008 8:44:15 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: arrogantsob

“Words do have meanings and the words of the Director are not what you have claimed and no one is free to change them to support such a claim.”


If there is controversial and damaging information on the original Obama long form Certification of Live Birth, I wonder why Dr. Fukino called the attempts to secure that document to be “ridiculous.”

Dr. Fukino can clarify the meaning of her own words at any time if she feels that the media has misinterpreted them. Thus far, she hasn’t chosen to do that and there are literally thousands of media organs which have published the Associated Press account under the heading “State Declares Obama Birth Certificate to be Genuine” or “Obama’s certificate of birth OK, state says.”


2,005 posted on 11/17/2008 8:45:01 PM PST by jamese777
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To: jamese777

Then Scrub needs to quit spending money lawyering this situation.


2,006 posted on 11/17/2008 8:47:00 PM PST by txhurl (somebody just bought 12 Carrier Battle Groups for 600 million dollars)
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To: jamese777

Fukino needs to grow a set to stand against those literally thousands of media organs. Not going to happen.


2,007 posted on 11/17/2008 8:49:45 PM PST by Boardwalk
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To: GerardKempf
Why are we wasting our time with this? It’s just like the Dems futile attempt when the Supreme Court ruled against Gore. Let’s just move past this and get the party united.

At the very least, to oppose Obama's ambitions and to show the public that Obama has no respect for the Constitution. One shouldn't have to ask oneself why it's worthwhile to oppose tyranny and fight to uphold the rule of law.

2,008 posted on 11/17/2008 8:57:24 PM PST by TheThinker (It is the natural tendency of government to gravitate towards tyranny.)
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To: patriot08

;)


2,009 posted on 11/17/2008 8:57:39 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: tomkat

I got the same results as you. Tonight was the first time that I’ve listened to Ed and Caren’s show. I see where there is a place to join their site, which may lead to the ability to communicate with the hosts. I need to remember to download this kind of broadcast with a media player (for such an occasion as this).

Sorry about the let down.

I’m going to hunt for the other 3 hour broadcast regarding the Keyes-Kreep filing in Ca.


2,010 posted on 11/17/2008 9:03:41 PM PST by freepersup (!)
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To: pa mom
From what I have read, the long form is not released by the state. The O camp released what is normally sufficient to prove birth, even for passports, etc.

Released to who? The low res images on the net are not sufficient to determine authenticity, even fairly crude alterations would not be all that easy to determine.

Plus the only places it's been released have been the Daily Kos, who had it first, and the Obama campaign's own "Fight the Smears" site, plus the Annenberg foundation's "factcheck.org". The Fact Check pictures were better, but still not good enough. They could have been much better, even with the cameras used. I could take better images. Spread the thing out flat, illuminate from above and slightly to one side, take photo from directly above. Then reverse lighting and camera, that is lighting directly above, camera above and to one side. Pick distance and lens such that the document fills the image in one dimension or the other. I'm just a dumb engineer, not a photographer. They were supposedly "journalists", who at least should have learned how to take photographs.

But when it came time to release it to a court, they argued "standing".

2,011 posted on 11/17/2008 9:04:05 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: solfour
Lets count the ways BO can be black mailed.

Someone who knows the truth about his birth place.

Someone who knows about his Muslim connections.

Someone who knows about his shady Acorn dealings.

Someone who knows about his drug use.

Someone who knows about his racist past.

Someone who knows about his forged BC.

Someone who knows about what he was writting about in college.

2,012 posted on 11/17/2008 9:06:18 PM PST by jetson
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To: freepersup

Here is the link to the Lan Lamphere “overnight am” radio program, but I could not get it to run for more than 20 seconds when it would quit...after being wabbly for a while. Looked for other links for his program but could not find any. http://www.lanlamphere.com/public/


2,013 posted on 11/17/2008 9:08:51 PM PST by seekthetruth
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To: pa mom
He is going to be inaugurated on January 20, and that makes him my president.

The Constitution says otherwise, assuming that he is not eligible.

No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

Not eligible == can not be President. Elections aside, votes aside, politics aside. You have to be eligible, or you are not President.

2,014 posted on 11/17/2008 9:09:25 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: jetson

Please add:

Someone who knows the truth about his medical history.

Thank you.


2,015 posted on 11/17/2008 9:09:44 PM PST by bergmeid
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To: pa mom
He is going to be inaugurated on January 20, and that makes him my president.

If he's not constitutionally eligible, then he would simply be a usurper.
2,016 posted on 11/17/2008 9:12:28 PM PST by aruanan
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To: All

Hi all,

I’ve been lurking on all of these threads and have finally decided to take action. I read earlier that letters would have the most influence on the Supremes, so I wrote one. I’m sending it off to the Chief and if anybody would like to use it as a template feel free. I suppose if someone wanted to use it as-is, that would be OK, but it should probably be prefaced with “I didn’t write this but I agree with it” so that it wouldn’t seem like snail mail spam.

The Supreme’s address is:

The Supreme Court of the United States
One First Street, NE, Washington, DC 20543

Here’s the letter. (Suggestions welcome)

John G. Roberts, Jr.
Chief Justice
United States Supreme Court

Dear Chief Justice Roberts,

I am sure that you are aware of the many actions which are pending in various courts across this country in regard to the question of Barack Obama’s citizenship. I initially dismissed the idea that it could be possible that our future president is not a natural born citizen. However, his continued refusal to release his original birth certificate even after the election has convinced me that this claim may indeed have merit. There is no reason I can think of other than his birth being outside of United States territory which would justify his withholding of this information. Any other information, although potentially embarrassing, would not call into question his Constitutional eligibility for office.

I am not an attorney, and I don’t have access to all of the relevant statutes in effect in 1961, but what I have read from the legal sites available to me leads me to believe that if Barack Obama was not born on U.S. soil, because of his mother’s age and his father’s lack of American citizenship, he may very well not be a natural born citizen. I have seen some more recent statutes that address making the earlier laws equal regarding the gender of the U.S. citizen parent, and these laws are retroactive in some sections, but I don’t believe they are retroactive in the sections that deal with the age and years of residence of the citizen parent, only in equalizing the treatment of the mother and father under those statutes.

It may very well be that regardless of where Barack Obama was born, he will be found to be a natural born citizen. As of now, however, the question looms and threatens to unravel the very fabric of our Constitution. I believe the burden of proof is his. Our future president must assure us that he is at least Constitutionally eligible for office. If he was born in Hawaii as has been claimed (as far as I know he has never directly been asked or answered this question) then there is no doubt that he is natural born. If he was born elsewhere, as one of his grandmothers has stated, then there is a Constitutional question that must be answered before Barack Obama can be allowed to take office. The Constitutional requirements are clear and cannot be ignored. If it is found that by relevant statute that Barack Obama is a citizen regardless of where he was born, then that decision must be made or sanctioned by the Supreme Court, because any lesser treatment of this issue would do a disservice to both Barack Obama and our nation.

Please allow the Supreme Court to address this issue.

Thank you very much,

O2


2,017 posted on 11/17/2008 9:14:39 PM PST by omegatoo (Pray the rosary every day for our country)
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To: Boardwalk

No KoolAid. It’s fear: “fairness doctrine”. See Atlas Shrugs, scary.


2,018 posted on 11/17/2008 9:17:36 PM PST by luvadavi (Important old novel: The Moon Is Down, John Steinbeck, 1942)
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To: GerardKempf

What party?


2,019 posted on 11/17/2008 9:18:21 PM PST by luvadavi (Important old novel: The Moon Is Down, John Steinbeck, 1942)
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To: seekthetruth
OK- I have it up and running... the host (unknown) is speaking to the larger issues, even beyond the Keyes-Kreep case... speaking to the collapse of the country's foundation... a woman prosecutor is due up next in the guest spot...

FYI: I'm using Windows Vista with broadband service. I'm using the web-site’s internal player, as recommended by the site. So far, so good. No interruptions.

2,020 posted on 11/17/2008 9:19:17 PM PST by freepersup (!)
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