And the Russians think that they can successfully challeneg the U.S. Navy on the high seas again with this kind of shoddy construction and quality control of their submarine fleet?
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Sad thing for the Russians.
They’re lucky it did not occur at depth, or they would have lost another boat the King Neptune.
2 posted on
11/09/2008 4:37:39 AM PST by
roaddog727
(BS does not get bridges built - the funk you see is the funk you do)
To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Never heard of “Freon” being used in a fire suppression system. “Halon” I'm familiar with, but it doesn't poison you, it just displaces all of the oxygen and you keel over.
Very bad idea to even install such a system in any area other than an ammunition magazine, or paint storage locker etc.
3 posted on
11/09/2008 4:42:29 AM PST by
NavVet
( If you don't defend Conservatism in the Primaries, you won't have it to defend in November)
To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Actually this one was scheduled to be leased to the Indian navy. [ Wonder how that leasing works out]
“The Indian Navy has signed an agreement with Russia to lease a new Akula II submarine, SSN Nerpa, for ten years. The vessel is being completed at the Komsomolsk-on-Amur shipyard and is scheduled for delivery in late 2008.”
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/akula/
Note that the Nerpa was commissioned in December 2000
More forward torpedo room problems like the Kursk?
4 posted on
11/09/2008 4:43:52 AM PST by
Covenantor
("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Is this the Interntional Crisis Biden was talking about?
6 posted on
11/09/2008 4:46:37 AM PST by
mlocher
(USA is a sovereign nation)
To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Uhh, Freon isn’t poison- it’s an oxygen displacer. May not be much to choose from, but those poor guys suffocated.
8 posted on
11/09/2008 4:49:59 AM PST by
backhoe
(Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Sunset of America...)
To: Virginia Ridgerunner
I’ve always said that Russians are only a good, competent military when you’re inside their borders....the exception being World War II (mainly because they wanted revenge against the Germans). Now, if they designed a Nuclear sub to roam the Black Sea, they could make it perfectly stealthy.
11 posted on
11/09/2008 4:52:15 AM PST by
MuttTheHoople
(Bombing Billy Ayers-the Timothy McVeigh of his generation)
To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Too bad the USSR didn’t send their *navy* in to invade democratic,harmless,tiny Georgia last summer.Maybe the death count would have including fewer innocents and more aggressors.
To: Virginia Ridgerunner
16 posted on
11/09/2008 4:56:54 AM PST by
VaBthang4
("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
To: Virginia Ridgerunner
24 posted on
11/09/2008 5:14:26 AM PST by
mylife
(The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
To: Virginia Ridgerunner
WORLDS MOST DANGEROUS JOBS: Fishing boats in the Bering Sea from Alaska. Nuke sub crewman on Soviet subs.
25 posted on
11/09/2008 5:14:39 AM PST by
RetiredArmy
(America is entering four very long and cold years. First victim: liberty)
To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Terrible for the sailors/submariners and their families.
I’ve been in a computer room when the Halon 1301 balls opened and let loose. I’m not sure I would have made it out of the room in time, but for a co-worker with really long legs who assisted me.
It would be a very frightening way to die.
To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Is it true that the fire extinguishing system was made in China?
28 posted on
11/09/2008 5:19:07 AM PST by
Enterprise
(No Oil for Democrats!)
To: Virginia Ridgerunner
It wasn't immediately clear why personnel affected failed to activate the individual breathing kits they were supposed to have, he said.They didn't have them would be my guess.
29 posted on
11/09/2008 5:26:53 AM PST by
csvset
To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Good men died, let us pray for their families.
30 posted on
11/09/2008 5:29:39 AM PST by
tet68
( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Prayers for the families. My father adopted four boys whose father had died on the USS Oriskany and I caught a glimpse of how hard a tragedy like this affects children and wives. I pray God provides for these families and comforts them.
34 posted on
11/09/2008 5:41:20 AM PST by
jer33 3
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35 posted on
11/09/2008 5:41:22 AM PST by
Calpernia
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
I just recently watched an episode of the BBC series Spooks. The Season 7 Episode 2 was about a Russian sub attempting to tap into a transaltantic cable in an attempt to disrupt British communications.
It caused me to recall the previous Russian sub "accident". Now there is another "accident"?
It makes one go "hmmmmmmmm".
Oh, yeh, in Spooks, that Russian sub experienced an "accident" too.
36 posted on
11/09/2008 5:45:25 AM PST by
TomGuy
To: Virginia Ridgerunner
The Akula class carry up to 12 Granat submarine launched cruise missiles.
Granat has a range of about 3000 km and delivers a 200 kiloton warhead .
38 posted on
11/09/2008 5:49:38 AM PST by
Strategy
To: Virginia Ridgerunner
I’m guessing that it was Halon, not Freon. When Freon is heated to a high temperature (the cherry end of a cigarette is hot enough to do it), it breaks down into phosgene, which is a nerve gas. Not a good feature for a fire-suppression system.
45 posted on
11/09/2008 6:19:27 AM PST by
Excuse_My_Bellicosity
(Never argue with idiots. They'll pull you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
To: Virginia Ridgerunner
49 posted on
11/09/2008 6:36:38 AM PST by
mad_as_he$$
(Nemo me impune lacessit.)
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