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Barack Obama: Born in Hawaii
Hawai`i Free Press ^ | Nov 7 2008 | Andrew Walden

Posted on 11/07/2008 8:20:19 AM PST by AndrewWalden

A fairly impressive internet industry has sprung up claiming that Obama was born in either Kenya or Indonesia. This is nonsense which distracts from the broadly unexplored story of Obama’s upbringing. This kind of nonsense has emerged because the McCain campaign chose not to raise the many questions about Barack Obama’s numerous hard-left alliances. Barack Obama was born in Hawai`i, August 4, 1961 at Kapiolani Medical Center in Honolulu.

Obama’s birth certificate posted online is exactly the same birth certificate everybody in Hawai`i gets from the State Department of Health. It is not forged. There is nothing unusual about the design or the texture. In addition to the birth certificate, the August 13, 1961 Honolulu Advertiser also carries an announcement of Obama’s birth. The Honolulu Star-Bulletin also carries the same announcement. Both papers require submission of a copy of the birth certificate to print a birth announcement.

By refusing media requests for a look at the actual paper birth certificate, Obama’s campaign gave sly backhanded assistance to the forgery hype.

(Excerpt) Read more at hawaiifreepress.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: bc; birthcertificate; certifigate; election; kenya; obama; obamatransitionfile
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To: MHGinTN
You seem more than happy to be a sheeple. Baaaa bye, useful idiot

The election was partly lost on these distractions, and we better get our act together before the next one.

321 posted on 11/07/2008 5:39:30 PM PST by palmer (Some third party malcontents don't like Palin because she is a true conservative)
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To: TheCipher
By saying they "beg to differ" they are impying that the document they "examined" is the same one put up on the Kos site.

But they only examined what they examined. I don't think they would know how the one got to Kos and if it was the same.

322 posted on 11/07/2008 5:58:12 PM PST by palmer (Some third party malcontents don't like Palin because she is a true conservative)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Obama and Ayres worked for Annenburg.

I realize they are suspect. But their photos of a COLB require that someone had an embossing tool and a notary stamp. Not impossible of course, but obtaining them would leave a trail of witnesses. Someone here implied that Annenburg simply went to Obama HQ to photograph the things so that makes them dupes and not the forgers. Then the witnesses to the forgery tools would have been around camp Obama.

323 posted on 11/07/2008 6:03:37 PM PST by palmer (Some third party malcontents don't like Palin because she is a true conservative)
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To: palmer
Yes , but they are stating that the digital copy is not a fake by saying the one they examined is "real". The only way they can make that claim is if the digital copy and the one they "examined" are one and the same. It just show how disingenuous they are. Another example is where they claim it is a birth certificate, which it isn't. It is a certification, which are two completely different things.
324 posted on 11/07/2008 6:11:08 PM PST by TheCipher
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To: palmer
The real COLB you show in your thread has the same border as the COLB shown in the Annenburg photos. I’m not interested in comparing the Kos and smears scans since they are low res, just the Annenburg photos.

No, it doesn't. You have to enlarge the photos and the images. Do you have copies of the Annenberg photos?

325 posted on 11/07/2008 6:18:25 PM PST by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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To: holden

What about his mother and father? Where are they? Are they dead?


326 posted on 11/07/2008 6:21:07 PM PST by virgil
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To: palmer
Actually I should have been more specific. They are claiming they examined the original birth certificate. They examined a COLB which is a computer generated summary. If their "experts" don't know the difference between the two, they are not very good experts. If they did, then they are being "misleading" to put it kindly.
327 posted on 11/07/2008 6:22:12 PM PST by TheCipher
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To: TheCipher
I agree. The most innocent explanation is that they looked at the paper, touched it, photographed it, and said (to themselves and on the website), it exists and looks real. More likely though is that their language is meant to convey a sense that it the certificate is really obvious and the issue is trivial. That could be a facade in front of an ugly truth or it might not be. I agree they also obfuscate the BC and COLB issue.

So far from what I can see, I have to agree on the surface the issue is trivial and obvious. There are eyewitnesses for the original BC in storage. There is sufficient photographic evidence of an official COLB which would require certain tools to forge. Regardless of the junk on Kos and smears, the Factcheck COLB appears to be Hawaiian in origin.

There are only two possibilities considering their presentation, one that they are complicit or at least knowledgeable about an Obama camp forgery and are putting on a show. Or two, they are trying to distract, divide and marginalize the opposition. If the latter, I believe they have succeeded starting with a 6000 post thread here in July.

328 posted on 11/07/2008 6:26:44 PM PST by palmer (Some third party malcontents don't like Palin because she is a true conservative)
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To: palmer

I do not trust Annenburg Fact Check in the least. Read their take on Obama’s record on the 2nd Amendment. It is a stinking pile of horse manure.


329 posted on 11/07/2008 6:27:45 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Chief Engineer

Yep. And still, many of the Hillary fans contributed to debunking the forgery.


330 posted on 11/07/2008 6:29:52 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: palmer
There are eyewitnesses for the original BC in storage.

Except we don't know what country that original BC is from.

Here is what they said from Hawaii:

Fukino said she has “personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.

She did not say original Hawaii birth certificate. Under Hawaii law, he could have applied for a Hawaii birth certificate provided he could show his mother was a resident of Hawaii one year prior to his birth. Part of that process is submitting your original birth certificate. So therefore, in accordance with state policies and procedures , they would have his original birth certificate on record. It does not mean it is a Hawaii birth certificate.

331 posted on 11/07/2008 6:32:33 PM PST by TheCipher
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To: virgil
What about his mother and father? ... Are they dead?

It would seem they've returned to dust; there's a lot of evidence in the case of each of them, and since neither one of them is running for anything, no one has much stake in the less-likely, we've-all-been-hoodwinked scenario.

If the Saudis and/or Soros bought and paid for an Indonesian to be elected POTUS, I'd like to know definitively, based on the standard, tangible evidence, as weighed by a dispassionate judicial panel, such as the SCOTUS.

HF

332 posted on 11/07/2008 6:33:40 PM PST by holden
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To: Polarik
I'm comparing this:
http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_5.jpg

to the one in your thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2123682/posts and they match.

333 posted on 11/07/2008 6:39:05 PM PST by palmer (Some third party malcontents don't like Palin because she is a true conservative)
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To: holden

There’s an awful lot of confusion about his past. The decline and fall of the Roman Empire is clearer than the rise of BO .


334 posted on 11/07/2008 6:44:26 PM PST by virgil
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
...when I got a new copy of mine from Illinois several years ago, it was much more like the Hawaii COLB--a newly generated, computer-printed document. It appears to vary from state to state.

Well, ok. That takes that particular curiosity out of the question. There remains quite a bit more to explain, though.

335 posted on 11/07/2008 6:48:54 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: pissant
I do not trust Annenburg Fact Check in the least.

I'm not saying we should. Let's assume that they are lying, they took photos of forgeries knowing what they were, getting a wink and nod, or sending out a clueless intern to take the pictures. In all those cases it means the obama camp created some forgeries on a computer, printed them, embossed and notary stamped them, then folded them for display to annenburg.

That means there was someone in a back alley in Honolulu buying an embosser and a rubber stamp from a municipal worker who stole them at work, or someone ordered one pretending to be from the Hawaiian government or someone made one on their own equipment. That means there will be witnesses, sooner or later.

336 posted on 11/07/2008 6:53:01 PM PST by palmer (Some third party malcontents don't like Palin because she is a true conservative)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan
Obama’s mother was married to the father and as far as I’m aware, met the residence requirements, so regardless of the fact of whether he was born in Kenya or not, he is a natural born citizen...

Notwithstanding the fact that Barack Senior was already married to another woman, which calls the legitimacy of his marriage into question in the eyes of The USA, you need to check the law as it stood in 1961.

A child born outside the US of a couple of which only one was a US Citizen, had to meet a set of criteria for the child to be regarded as a "natural born citizen".

The American parent of the pair had to have resided at least four years in the USA after their 16th birthday for the child to qualify. Since Stanley Anne Durham was only 18 at the time, this was an impossible requirement for her to meet.

Ergo, B.H.O. would NOT meet the requirements had he be born in Kenya.

He could, however, still have his birth registered in Hawaii by his mother as she was a Hawaii resident. This what happened with his half sister, Maya, who was born in Indonesia.

The Birth Certificate would show the place of his birth.

337 posted on 11/07/2008 6:54:24 PM PST by Wil H (No Accomplishments, No Experience, No Resume, No Records, No References, Nobama..)
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To: virgil
What we know about his past is sufficient to account for a whole truck-load of baggage/issues that he's sure to lay back on the American populace in this coming term.

In four years, I suspect there'll be another 20 million legalized aliens driving our roads, raping and pillaging, being largely subsizided by the formerly wealthy Americans. Those aliens will give their fully fledged loyalty to Barry Soetero and keep us from ever having a fair election until this place is one huge hell-hole.

HF

338 posted on 11/07/2008 7:00:07 PM PST by holden
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To: palmer
Being naive is dangerous. What makes you think a forger is going to tell?

Why is Obamas step grandmother and two of his siblings insisting that they were present at his birth in Kenya?

339 posted on 11/07/2008 7:08:52 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: palmer

Yes I did. Read the thread again.


340 posted on 11/07/2008 7:18:53 PM PST by null and void (This isn't an election, it's a manifestation of a Salvador Dali painting. [Persistence of Division])
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