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Barack Obama: Born in Hawaii
Hawai`i Free Press ^ | Nov 7 2008 | Andrew Walden

Posted on 11/07/2008 8:20:19 AM PST by AndrewWalden

A fairly impressive internet industry has sprung up claiming that Obama was born in either Kenya or Indonesia. This is nonsense which distracts from the broadly unexplored story of Obama’s upbringing. This kind of nonsense has emerged because the McCain campaign chose not to raise the many questions about Barack Obama’s numerous hard-left alliances. Barack Obama was born in Hawai`i, August 4, 1961 at Kapiolani Medical Center in Honolulu.

Obama’s birth certificate posted online is exactly the same birth certificate everybody in Hawai`i gets from the State Department of Health. It is not forged. There is nothing unusual about the design or the texture. In addition to the birth certificate, the August 13, 1961 Honolulu Advertiser also carries an announcement of Obama’s birth. The Honolulu Star-Bulletin also carries the same announcement. Both papers require submission of a copy of the birth certificate to print a birth announcement.

By refusing media requests for a look at the actual paper birth certificate, Obama’s campaign gave sly backhanded assistance to the forgery hype.

(Excerpt) Read more at hawaiifreepress.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: bc; birthcertificate; certifigate; election; kenya; obama; obamatransitionfile
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To: MarineMom613
What ever happened to Grannys funeral?

Yeh.. I was thinking the same thing yesterday. Whas up wit dat? Granny gets thrown first under the bus and now thrown under the hearse.

301 posted on 11/07/2008 5:01:21 PM PST by tflabo (:)
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To: palmer

I would politely suggest that you do the research on your own first rather then have me do it for you.

I have been following this from the beginning and don’t want to rehash everything I have learned for your sole benefit or amusement.

There’s this thing-a-ma-bob called a search engine, use it.


302 posted on 11/07/2008 5:01:33 PM PST by usmcobra (Go ask Obama for your change, and don't bug me!)
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To: AndrewWalden

What’s the hospital’s records got to say? Can they back this up? Granny (the black one) says she was there when he was born . . . in Kenya.

It wasn’t McCain’s job to bring these questions up. That job belonged to the press. They were derelict in that responsibility, and went so far in the tank for Obama that they can now not afford to be critical.


303 posted on 11/07/2008 5:04:50 PM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: pissant
If they had scanned the document shown on Fact Check, the embossed seal they show would have been evident on the scan. Something stinks, besides just the March date stamps on the pics.

Absolutely something stinks at Smears and Kos. But not at Annenburg. So either argue about Annenburg and whether they were duped by Obama or argue about whether smears and kos did some cheezy photoshopping. But those are two different arguments.

The smears and kos docs could have been photoshopped from scratch or from soneone else's doc. An alternative for smears and kos is someone did a low res scan of the annenburg docs and fooled around in photoshopped (to redact the # for starters). The scan can lose or diminish details like the embossing.

The Annenburg docs were photographed after being embossed and stamped. That requires people procuring the embossing tool and the rubber stamp. There will be witnesses to that. The Obama camp apparently presented those to Annenburg in March, so they would have had to do that forgery before that.

304 posted on 11/07/2008 5:05:29 PM PST by palmer (Some third party malcontents don't like Palin because she is a true conservative)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan
Doesn't look like it is a technicality anyway, under a 1934 statute, anyone born abroad to a citizen mother after May 24th 1934 who has previously resided in the US is an American citizen

WRONG !!!!! Here is the law as stated on the US State Department website:

Birth Abroad to One Citizen and One Alien Parent in Wedlock: A child born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under Section 301(g) INA provided the citizen parent was physically present in the U.S. for the time period required by the law applicable at the time of the child's birth. (For birth on or after November 14, 1986, a period of five years physical presence, two after the age of fourteen is required. For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen are required for physical presence in the U.S. to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child.

She did not live in the US for 5 years after the age of 14 before he was born. If he was born overseas, not only would he not have "natural born" citizenship, he would not have US citizenship.

305 posted on 11/07/2008 5:06:45 PM PST by TheCipher
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To: AndrewWalden
Where is the Barf Alert ?
306 posted on 11/07/2008 5:09:39 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Obama - not just an empty suit - - A Suit Bomb invading the White House)
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To: editor-surveyor

DNA. We need DNA. Let’s bribe the gal who will be cleaning the Black House bathroom.


307 posted on 11/07/2008 5:12:00 PM PST by bergmeid
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To: Harry Wurzbach
"One would think that if the Hawaiian birth certificate really indicated a foreign birth that Lingle would’ve gotten it public somehow."

You're way too naive!

308 posted on 11/07/2008 5:12:03 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Obama - not just an empty suit - - A Suit Bomb invading the White House)
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To: pissant
There is nothing that doesn't make sense. Obama's camp had a scan in summer that got passed around and at some point someone digitally black out the number before posting it. Other people reposted. Doesn't really matter how they created it whether it was from the original scan or altered (likely at least for the redaction), or forged.

It has no bearing on what Annenburg photographed which are photos of a doc with a real embossing and notary stamp. Those had to be added after a COLB was created and printed out (i.e. either in Hawaii, or by a forger). Both alternatives would have to use the same techniques to get the photographed result.

309 posted on 11/07/2008 5:12:09 PM PST by palmer (Some third party malcontents don't like Palin because she is a true conservative)
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To: palmer

Are you serious? Obama and Ayres worked for Annenburg.


310 posted on 11/07/2008 5:12:17 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan
Doesn't look like it is a technicality anyway, under a 1934 statute, anyone born abroad to a citizen mother after May 24th 1934 who has previously resided in the US is an American citizen

The only way this would apply is if he was born out of wedlock

311 posted on 11/07/2008 5:13:20 PM PST by TheCipher
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To: Windflier
I just had to obtain a new copy of my original BC from California, and they simply photo-copied the original onto a new official document form, which bears all of the necessary seals, current date, and signatures.

On the other hand, when I got a new copy of mine from Illinois several years ago, it was much more like the Hawaii COLB--a newly generated, computer-printed document. It appears to vary from state to state. It may even vary from county to county since it's a county document (in Illinois).

312 posted on 11/07/2008 5:13:41 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan
Where does it say the mother has to be 19 in order to give birth to a citizen abroad?

There's about 6000 posts on that topic. Start here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2040486/posts

313 posted on 11/07/2008 5:15:48 PM PST by palmer (Some third party malcontents don't like Palin because she is a true conservative)
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To: palmer

see post 305


314 posted on 11/07/2008 5:19:10 PM PST by TheCipher
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To: LucyT

The border shown on the real COLB in the second thread matches the border on the Annenburg COLB photos.


315 posted on 11/07/2008 5:22:19 PM PST by palmer (Some third party malcontents don't like Palin because she is a true conservative)
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To: Polarik

The real COLB you show in your thread has the same border as the COLB shown in the Annenburg photos. I’m not interested in comparing the Kos and smears scans since they are low res, just the Annenburg photos.


316 posted on 11/07/2008 5:24:40 PM PST by palmer (Some third party malcontents don't like Palin because she is a true conservative)
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To: palmer
Doesn't really matter how they created it whether it was from the original scan or altered (likely at least for the redaction), or forged. It has no bearing on what Annenburg photographed which are photos of a doc with a real embossing and notary stamp.

Except that is not what the are implying on their website :

In June, the Obama campaign released a digitally scanned image of his birth certificate to quell speculative charges that he might not be a natural-born citizen. But the image prompted more blog-based skepticism about the document's authenticity. And recently, author Jerome Corsi, whose book attacks Obama, said in a TV interview that the birth certificate the campaign has is "fake."

We beg to differ. FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate.

By saying they "beg to differ" they are impying that the document they "examined" is the same one put up on the Kos site.

317 posted on 11/07/2008 5:25:09 PM PST by TheCipher
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To: Calpernia
I'm not interested in any electronically sent COLB's. Like I pointed out, the Annenburg photos are photos of real paper documents that were, as far as we know, never sent electronically. They were created on a computer, printed, embossed, stamped by the notary, then folded. Possibly mailed, but we don't know.

We also don't know if the Hawaii did the creation, printing, embossing, and stamping or if a forger did, but there are no witnesses talking about embossing tools or rubber stamps that I am aware of.

318 posted on 11/07/2008 5:29:20 PM PST by palmer (Some third party malcontents don't like Palin because she is a true conservative)
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To: null and void

You never answered WOSG’s question of why Dunham and Obama Sr went to Kenya for their summer vacation and to give birth.


319 posted on 11/07/2008 5:31:07 PM PST by palmer (Some third party malcontents don't like Palin because she is a true conservative)
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To: Calpernia

It is much more likely that you are working for the campaign and have been since July when you and nully started this whole distraction.


320 posted on 11/07/2008 5:32:34 PM PST by palmer (Some third party malcontents don't like Palin because she is a true conservative)
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