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Dollars lining up for 'civilian national security force'?
WorldNetDaily ^ | November 06, 2008

Posted on 11/07/2008 4:32:12 AM PST by Perseverando

Report cites Frank's proposal to cut military 25%

President-elect Barack Obama raised questions during an election campaign stop in Colorado Springs when he asserted the U.S. needs a "civilian national security force" that would be as powerful, strong and well-funded as the Army, Marines, Navy and Air Force, but few of those questions have been answered.

But now one report is proposing a possible solution for part of the equation: From where would the money for such an organization come? Democrats in Congress now are floating the idea of cutting U.S. military spending by 25 percent, or $150 billion a year, and according to a report from blogger Jay Tea, that could be used for the new "security force."

The idea to cut the military, proposed by Rep. Barney Frank, already is being opposed by Republicans.

Frank, D-Mass., recently told a newspaper the Pentagon will have to start choosing the cuts from its weapons programs because he wants to slash more than $150 billion from the estimated $607 billion in defense spending already approved for fiscal year 2008.

Sen. Roscoe Bartlett, R-Md., argued America now is fighting terror worldwide, including active wars in Afghanistan and Iran, and that has stretched the capabilities of the military already.

He warned cutting funding in such a drastic way would be irresponsible.

"You know if we don't make the right decisions about the military nothing else will matter will it? Because if we don't have a free country then you know what do these other programs matter at all? That's the number one responsibility," he said.

The blogger, however, saw the plan linked this way: "Representative Barney Frank, apparently not content with his role in wreaking havoc on the nation's financial system, has announced that he will push for a 25 percent cut in

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To: rockinqsranch

“Wondering if Obama is planning this “Civilian National Security Force” as contrived logic to state with such in place there isn’t any need for Americans to own guns?”

I was wondering the same thing.


41 posted on 11/07/2008 5:00:34 AM PST by READINABLUESTATE
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To: RU88

I wonder, will they wear black shirts or brown shirts? Or given the acceptance of Barney Frank, rainbow colored?


43 posted on 11/07/2008 5:04:09 AM PST by Melchior
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To: rightwingextremist1776
Because he can't use the Military to put down civilian dissent...but he could use the "civilian National Security Force" (aka Gestapo)....... ATF
44 posted on 11/07/2008 5:04:14 AM PST by piroque
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To: Perseverando
NO!
45 posted on 11/07/2008 5:05:26 AM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: garyhope

As you bump into them again over the coming days and months, be sure to ask them how they plan to fulfill their upcoming mandatory volunteer obligations.


46 posted on 11/07/2008 5:05:34 AM PST by Nickname
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To: mewzilla

Sorry to pop your bubble but, with the Mexican Border being thrown wide open and all those former illegals getting citizenship just by registering, (End of problem) all those new Democrats will flock to the polls for what ever handout the Democrats promise them.

Many of them already were given brand new houses (5 million to be exact) and with national health care, they will come like a tsunami from all over the World.


47 posted on 11/07/2008 5:05:35 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (WHAT? Where did my tag line go?)
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To: Perseverando; All

A good article on the civillian security force is at http://volokh.com/posts/1216451854.shtml . I think it will be a giant boondoggle, but I don’t think the intention is to create a parallel military to oppress Americans at home.


48 posted on 11/07/2008 5:06:08 AM PST by reaganaut1
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To: gwilhelm56

How the GESTAPO was formed and named.

http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/triumph/tr-gestapo.htm


49 posted on 11/07/2008 5:06:21 AM PST by Netizen (PRAY AND WORK HARD - MILLIONS OF MOOCHERS DEPEND ON YOU.)
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To: Melchior

They’ll wear blue shirts—both the Democrat and UN color.


50 posted on 11/07/2008 5:07:35 AM PST by Nickname
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To: Netizen

Sounds like Obozo has you half in the bag on this Gestapo.

Your post contains 6 questions on the subject. Effectivly you are discussing it.

Here is my response to the whole question: There will be no ‘civilian’ security force.

Period.


51 posted on 11/07/2008 5:07:56 AM PST by TalBlack
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To: Perseverando

Has Obama or anyone connected to him said just what the role of the National Security Force would play?


52 posted on 11/07/2008 5:07:57 AM PST by engrpat
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To: NRG1973

Re: WND can make a fortune fomenting citizen fear of the US government instead of its usual foreign terrorist attack scare tactics.

So you think WorldNetDaily is trying to scare us?????

Obama saying what he has said about a civilian national securtiy force, bigger than our present military, more powerful and better funded that will be under his control is what scares the heck out of me. I fear for my family and I fear for my country.

And I am burned up when I think that Obama will be the commander in chief of America’s military. I guess Obama will make Barney Frank Secretary of Defense as Obama tries to emasculate the military and prepare us for surrender to our enemies.

Boys and girls, it’s been 3 days since the election. Right now I’m more concerned about America’s domestic enemies than I am it’s foreign enemies.


53 posted on 11/07/2008 5:08:31 AM PST by Perseverando
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To: dblshot
The question is, what makes Obama think he's going to need this kind of force?

Because he is going to do or implement something that he knows a LOT of people are not going to like?

54 posted on 11/07/2008 5:08:41 AM PST by Netizen (PRAY AND WORK HARD - MILLIONS OF MOOCHERS DEPEND ON YOU.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Won't be my bubble popping :)
55 posted on 11/07/2008 5:09:11 AM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: Perseverando; All
This is not as bizarre as it sounds.

You have to remember every dollar in the federal budget is subject to the Democrat mantra of available funding which can be used to buy votes.

The dems spend every nickel with buying votes in mind. It matters little whether they help, destroy, or make neutral federal dollars spent. It's all about vote buying at any cost which yields power in the interim, and Socialism/Marxism in the end.

Nothing else is of interest to them.

A Civilian Military or goon squad headed up undoubtedly by the Chicago mob, OCF,(Obama Crime Family) would be the ultimate in vote buys and could be used to destroy conservatives as well doling out patronage in a huge way. So that's a slam dunk. You can expect that just as much as you can expect a huge attack on talk radio,fairness doctrine, no matter what it's called.

56 posted on 11/07/2008 5:10:20 AM PST by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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To: Perseverando; freema

I say this with a heavy heart but the best way to trim the Military budget by 25% is to abolish the Marine Corps.

I’m sure that there are scores of liberals especially Barney Frank and Jack Murtha that are thinking the same thing.


57 posted on 11/07/2008 5:10:34 AM PST by usmcobra (Go ask Obama for your change, and don't bug me!)
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To: rockinqsranch

Yes, exactly what is his stated purpose for the need of such a force? Reeks to high heaven for me.


58 posted on 11/07/2008 5:12:09 AM PST by Heartland Mom ("Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Perseverando; All
The new national security force will be couched as a volunteering grp to help the poor & minorities., i.e.,Peace Corps, Vista programs. The college students that want/need financial aid will be required to join this grp.. Parents will let their kids join so they can get free college education. Yup, its the new world order.
59 posted on 11/07/2008 5:12:42 AM PST by Strutt9
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To: Perseverando

60 posted on 11/07/2008 5:14:00 AM PST by Dallas59 (Redistribute Obamas Wealth)
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