Posted on 10/24/2008 9:26:51 PM PDT by Jim W N
A Pennsylvania lawsuit alleging that Barack Obama is not a natural-born citizen of the United States took an unusual twist this week, after a federally mandated deadline requiring Obamas lawyers to produce a vault copy of his birth certificate expired with no response from Obama or his lawyers.
The lawsuit, filed by former Pennsylvania Deputy Attorney General Philip J. Berg a self-avowed supporter of Hillary Clinton alleges that Barack Obama was born in Kenya and is thus ineligible to run for president of the United States. It demands that Obamas lawyers produce a copy of his original birth certificate to prove that he is a natural-born U.S. citizen.
Berg's suit and allegations have set off a wave of Internet buzz and rumors, though Obama could easily have put the matter to rest by providing the federal court with the basic documentation proving he is eligible to take the oath of a president. But Obama has apparently decided to deny the court and the public that documentation.
The Constitution provides that any U.S. citizen is eligible to become president if the person is 35 years of age or older and is a natural-born citizen; that is, born in the territorial United States.
(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...
Thanks Calpernia.
Ping.
Excerpted:
A federal judge in Philadelphia last night threw out a complaint by a Montgomery County lawyer who claimed that Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama was not qualified to be president and that his name should be removed from the Nov. 4 ballot.
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Obama and the Democratic National Committee had asked Surrick to dismiss Berg’s complaint in a court filing on Sept. 24.
They said that Berg’s claims were “ridiculous” and “patently false,” that Berg had “no standing” to challenge the qualifications of a candidate for president because he had not shown the requisite harm to himself.
Surrick agreed.
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Link to article found at #140:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2114753/posts?page=140#140
Well, holding the handle end of Occam's razor, I see a candidate who has spent tens, if not hundreds of thousands of dollars, and untold amounts of other resources needed for his campaign to avoid spending 15 minutes on line, and coughing up $10 to have a genuine unquestionable copy of his BC mailed to the judge.
There is something to hide that is that important to him!
I did consider it- carefully. I started looking into Obama’s background after he won Iowa. I’ve spent hours researching, cross-checking and digging on this guy.
I kept an open mind - I didn’t personally NEED his birth circumstances to convince me he’s unsuitable- we all know how much is wrong with him without it. There’s a place in between people who believe everything they read on anti-Obama sites, and people who believe nothing under the radar could be true. Find me there.
I don’t agree with your assertion that the reason reasonable people haven’t pursued it is because it’s not ture.
And ABSOLUTELY NO ONE of consequence, regard, or stature is doing anything.
Wonder why that is?
I’m saying that reasonable people HAVE pursued it and found nothing.
Do you see how this whole certificate episode mirrors the 9-11 truthers?
“Sick grandma my FOOT!”
Yesterday they showed Michelle Obama out there campaigning for him while he visits his “gravely ill” grandmother.
She said, “His grandmother is fine.”
I wondered about that statement...
Occam?Occam says Obama would have PRODUCED A GENUINE BIRTH CERTIFICATE.
Obama has proved there is a there there.
The judge happily lifts shell number three and chirps, "No pea!"
William Jefferson Clinton Forty-Second President of the United States of America was found Not Guilty by those honorable, honorable men of the U.S. Senate.
The charges stemmed from his behavior concerning a lawsuit, not the serial treasonous acts betraying his oath.
A single judicial Bridge Out does not make Hussein a natural born citizen.
Why would foreigners shovel in the majority of $650 million.
Tow-may-tow, toe-mah-toe, Imam, Caliph, sleeper, how nice,
So many enemies using the same device
I see how a sensible person could come to that conclusion. I also see MANY sensible, rational and grounded people who have not come to that conclusion. I am one of them.
I can see your point.......”in a steel cage death match, and it would not have been attributed directly to her. If Newt Gingrich had said it, Obamas nutjobs would have attributed it to Hillary.”
But they love blaming everything on the VRWC, so I’m not 100% sure if she would have had to take the fall.
“”it’s like an insurance policy. ....I just cant buy that a diehard Hillary supporter wants to hand the election to a Republican in good faith.””
I don’t by it either in its entirety. Especially since Hillary was part of the committee with the bill to ‘help McCain become eligible to run.’ It is total BS that Barry was atteempting to broaden the scope of the bill with no good reason. It always boils down to SELF-INTEREST and how can I GET TO POWER.
Perhaps the Kenyan BC was a trap BO laid for Hillary and she was never available to get the BC to take him down. Who knows...........
When he first ran for Illinois Congressman, was his name listed as Barack J Obama, as in J for Jesus, perhaps?
Same reason the GOP spineless pukes continued to turn a blind eye to the democrats stuffing millions of dollars each year into the budget to fund the marxist ACORN.
They are spineless. Same reason the RNC pulled money from Michelle Bachmann’s race after she said Obama may hold “anti-AMerican views”.
Same reason neither the RNC or the McCain camp is running ads with GOd Damn America Rev. Wright. And those who tried were scolded by the powers that be.
Same reason no one in the RNC or McCain camp is DEMANDING that Obama release his college thesis and transcripts and records.
Same resason you’ve seen no ads trumpeting the FACT that Obama was a member of the Socialist New Party in Chicago.
>>>The thing folks need to face is that this WAS checked out by the McCain campaign.
Link?
Because Obama believed that the lawsuit was frivilous and the judge agreed.
That’s an interesting premise. I’m not going to say it couldn’t happen. What I would say is that judge should be driven from the nation nude if he were to hold off his decision until after the election.
Moot point now!
We have challenged the “lawyer aristocracy” and they told us to go back to the servants quarters and shut up!
“In the first place one actually can get a passport without a birth certificate.”
Yes, that was in the link I posted.
“In the second place Hawaii will issue a Hawaiian BC to a foreign born child upon adoption by Hawaiian parents, with the adoptive parents listed as birth parents.”
Would such a document list Hawaii as Place of Birth?
“Do you see how this whole certificate episode mirrors the 9-11 truthers?
I see how a sensible person could come to that conclusion.”
I don’t think it is in any way as kooky as 911 “truthers”. But it does remind me of clinton’s passport file search at the end of the 1992 campaign.
An explanation of the residency requirements in effect in 1961 were posted on LGF; that is if my memory is correct. It confiremd that Ms Dunham met those requirements for 0 to be a citizen.
If Mr 0,s birth was really in Kenya, the suit will take a loooooong time to sort out. A time line of Ms Dunham’s life prior to 0’s birth will have to be confirmed.
If you can copy and paste the pertinent law, it will be cleared up.
“Well, holding the handle end of Occam’s razor, I see a candidate who has spent tens, if not hundreds of thousands of dollars, and untold amounts of other resources needed for his campaign to avoid spending 15 minutes on line, and coughing up $10 to have a genuine unquestionable copy of his BC mailed to the judge.
There is something to hide that is that important to him!”
Maybe so, but those contactors who browsed Obama’s passport file (multiple times) would have noticed if place of birth was listed as outside the USA.
Now if Obama was using forged docs 25-30 years ago to get his SSN and passport, there would be no Federal administrative record of him being born abroad.
But from accounts of him at that time, he was more interested in smoking weed than long term plans for diabolical evil.
Occam’s razor suggests to me that this story is a dead end.
Wonder why that is?
First place, Berg is doing something and he is Hillary!'s cat's paw, and loath her or love her, she is someone of consequence, regard, and stature.
Second place, Berg isn't the only one filing suit, there are multiple cases in multiple jurisdictions.
Third place, McCain is arguably in the same boat, as he was not born on US territory. Nuke 0bama, nuke McCain. Except for Hillary!, her surrogates, and other enemies of this country, no one wants to dump that particular can of worms on the dinner table.
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