Posted on 10/15/2008 8:32:46 PM PDT by savvyguy
Not the first 2, but tonight!
As one with experience in TV debate, I try to be objective about this.
Obama is on defense though the night, stuttering much more than previous, notice?
McCain went after BO much more than other way around McCain is smiling, relaxed, while O is nervous
ABC & CBS both had focus groups, and I was happy to see in both groups, one lean more towards O, but 3 more McCain! McCain is rebutting EVERY point brought up, an improvement
McCain score points on Education (not throwing more $, vouchers), Health Care, (Mandate vs choice), tax (not spreading around wealth, class warfare, we #2 corporate tax, no one should pay more taxes now), oil drill he’s opposed, notice Obama’s eloquence,”we could LOOK AT” drilling. That was funny!), programs you will cut (Obama bombed out! McCain point out O’s pork)
Best McCain's lines /moments
"I am not Bush, ..you should have run against him…” Smart! He said he was going to debate me in town hall, any time…, O spent MORE $ in negative Ads than anyone..I can prove it!”
“Your point of standing up against your (Demorat) leader isn’t very convincing!”
He gave $830,000 to ACORN, he had political party ay Ayer’s home… facts are facts. Record is record!” Biden got weird policy ideas. Voted against Gulf war, want divide up Iraq”
“Notice O talk about government , spending, why do we always have to spend MORE $?” “Runaway spending must be brought under control!” He sounds like he believes it. “O’s idea of raising taxes in hard times…” “We got too MUCH government, into health care?”
Obama’s best moments- McCain’s criticism of my taxing $42,000…. Been pointed out wrong by even FOX…” Smart! McCain said,” If we talk about economy, we’d lose”
McCain won argument on Columbia, abortion, on how many years you can stop our dependency on Foreign oil (7 vs 10 years)
Obama’s lie- Buffet, Lugar…these are people who shaped my life” (What about Frank Davis, Rev. Wright?)
Missed opportunity
McCain blew it not nailing O as trainer for ACORN, teaching thugs to shake down banks.
ACORN & O had a CLOSE relationship,massive voter fraud has TAINTED this ELECTION already...
O & company caused credit mess”
“Ayers is just tip of the iceberg, long list of leftist pals besides Ayers”
McCain should have nailed O on his pr-union vote in Illinois, stifle school improvement
McCain answered Q on VP much better than O.
From debate standpoint O make repeated mistakes in ALL 3 debates by saying,” I agree with Sen. McCain”
Closing statement, both did okay, but I feel McCain could have done a better job!
No knock out punch and McCain really need one, but he hits & jabs O many times, O is wobbling, I would not be surprised this will result in 2-3% increase towards McCain within 3 days.
Yeah, Senator Government, I forgot to add that one! LOL
McCain should call him by that from now on!
Somebody help him figure out how to get that great graphic to the McCain campaign promptly, PLEASE!!!
“The Fox News “All Stars” were PATHETIC!! John did GREAT tonight!!!”
I’ve been waiting for National Review Online to get back up, to see what their take was.
They all thought McCain did well, including Mark Levin (who is not, as we all know, McCain’s biggest fan).
McCain at least has made the base happy tonight.
And he didn’t make any blunders that the press can run with.
Thanks ROTB, you are a voice of reason. The internals do NOT support a bambi win, not at all, but it seems the wailing pantywaists on FR don’t want to look past the MSM lies, they just want to stand on a ledge and threaten to jump. Well, they can jump for all I care, I am calmly awaiting a convincing MacPalin victory.
I like that line!
McCain should say everywhere,”Senator Government, I mean Sen. Obama”
Yes! When Dan Quayl(e) was reminded that “you’re no Jack Kennedy,” by Bensten. Surely you remember that one. Bensten won the debate, but Dan won the Vice Presidency!!!
Go to drudge, click on AOL live poll
Who do you think won the debate?
Barack Obama
47% 79,012
John McCain
47% 78,560
Neither
6% 9,016
Total Votes: 166,588 in AOL poll
Remember last debates results ?
Some additional observations:
1. McCain did what he had to do. Nobody gives a knockout punch so the pundits are full of crap. However, the closest thing to a knock out punch was “Senator, if you wanted to run against Bush you should have run four years ago.”
2. Obama was smooth but here’s a tip. Obama blows air into his mouth area when he’s pissed. It’s subtle but it’s there. If you get to watch the debate again, Obama is puffing up his mouth area for the whole last half hour. That means he was very close to swinging at McCain.
3. If you go back over the issues McCain brought up: Ayers, Acorn, Redistribution of Wealth, Class Warfare, “We’ll look into Drilling”, Listen Carefully to what he says...on and on. These are all little time bombs that are set to blow up when voters get face to face with their ballot behind the curtain. There may be some last minute flight to familiar on November 4th.
alas, there is no provision for editing typos. mea culpa.
but i bet it will be worse than 1976. in some ways quite similar. Ford was a good decent honest man, but the GOP brand was tarnished. At least I hope it is more like 76 than 1932, or this country will really be in trouble.
McCain made some very good points, but missed some unbelievable opportunities as well. He still has let Obama call his wealth redistribution plan a “tax cut” when it clearly is not - it is government checks. He also never brought up Obama’s support of the Freedom of Choice Act.
But McCain’s main problem is his delivery. While he has some gravitas, he’s not extremely smooth and not extremely eloquent. I’m imagining someone like Newt Gingrich up there just eviscerating Obama point-by-point and it’s frustrating not to have that.
“but i bet it will be worse than 1976. in some ways quite similar. Ford was a good decent honest man, but the GOP brand was tarnished. At least I hope it is more like 76 than 1932, or this country will really be in trouble.”
Ford came pretty close to winning, though. I believe Jimmuh had a huge lead in the polls for most of the campaign, and then Ford made up a lot of ground at the end.
Although that “Ford to City: Drop Dead” headline just may rank as the biggest killer ever.
I think 76 proves it isn’t over until it’s over.
And the base has to be motivated to turn out. At a minimum, the Reps need to be able to filibuster in the Senate.
Excellent point. Obama wants to have it both ways- that we are wealthy, and then that we are on the verge of a depression. They can't both be true.
Thanks ROTB, you are a voice of reason. The internals do NOT support a bambi win, not at all, but it seems the wailing pantywaists on FR don’t want to look past the MSM lies, they just want to stand on a ledge and threaten to jump. Well, they can jump for all I care, I am calmly awaiting a convincing MacPalin victory.
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But we need them to vote.
If I was an Obamanation, I would say “vote then jump”, but no.
Please ignore me. Your post was informative up until the arrogance of the last sentence.
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Now commencing ego deflation ...
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Sorry. I feel bad when I ignore some of the tips I get, so I just ignore them, and wanted to explain myself.
Feelings should be ignored when bad, and enjoyed when good. Andrew Wommack http://www.awmi.net taught me that.
If the McCain campaign spotlights it hard.
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