Posted on 10/15/2008 8:32:46 PM PDT by savvyguy
Not the first 2, but tonight!
As one with experience in TV debate, I try to be objective about this.
Obama is on defense though the night, stuttering much more than previous, notice?
McCain went after BO much more than other way around McCain is smiling, relaxed, while O is nervous
ABC & CBS both had focus groups, and I was happy to see in both groups, one lean more towards O, but 3 more McCain! McCain is rebutting EVERY point brought up, an improvement
McCain score points on Education (not throwing more $, vouchers), Health Care, (Mandate vs choice), tax (not spreading around wealth, class warfare, we #2 corporate tax, no one should pay more taxes now), oil drill he’s opposed, notice Obama’s eloquence,”we could LOOK AT” drilling. That was funny!), programs you will cut (Obama bombed out! McCain point out O’s pork)
Best McCain's lines /moments
"I am not Bush, ..you should have run against him…” Smart! He said he was going to debate me in town hall, any time…, O spent MORE $ in negative Ads than anyone..I can prove it!”
“Your point of standing up against your (Demorat) leader isn’t very convincing!”
He gave $830,000 to ACORN, he had political party ay Ayer’s home… facts are facts. Record is record!” Biden got weird policy ideas. Voted against Gulf war, want divide up Iraq”
“Notice O talk about government , spending, why do we always have to spend MORE $?” “Runaway spending must be brought under control!” He sounds like he believes it. “O’s idea of raising taxes in hard times…” “We got too MUCH government, into health care?”
Obama’s best moments- McCain’s criticism of my taxing $42,000…. Been pointed out wrong by even FOX…” Smart! McCain said,” If we talk about economy, we’d lose”
McCain won argument on Columbia, abortion, on how many years you can stop our dependency on Foreign oil (7 vs 10 years)
Obama’s lie- Buffet, Lugar…these are people who shaped my life” (What about Frank Davis, Rev. Wright?)
Missed opportunity
McCain blew it not nailing O as trainer for ACORN, teaching thugs to shake down banks.
ACORN & O had a CLOSE relationship,massive voter fraud has TAINTED this ELECTION already...
O & company caused credit mess”
“Ayers is just tip of the iceberg, long list of leftist pals besides Ayers”
McCain should have nailed O on his pr-union vote in Illinois, stifle school improvement
McCain answered Q on VP much better than O.
From debate standpoint O make repeated mistakes in ALL 3 debates by saying,” I agree with Sen. McCain”
Closing statement, both did okay, but I feel McCain could have done a better job!
No knock out punch and McCain really need one, but he hits & jabs O many times, O is wobbling, I would not be surprised this will result in 2-3% increase towards McCain within 3 days.
Woooooooooo Hoooooooooo!!! That’s terrific!!! J.S.M’s best shot all night was a slip of the tongue when he call B.H.0. “Senator Government!” I simply LMAO!!!
I think MurryMom is the longest-lasting liberal in the forum. She was also for Clinton, Gore, and Kerry.
Biden and Obama both did that previously in other debates.
Those endless pages of agreements are designed for a reason, and neither Biden nor Obama are able to respond spontaneously when the agreements are stretched.
I notice Ifill and Brokaw had difficulty moderating the debates. They need to bring out some moderators under 50 for a change.
Thanks, I must have missed it!
I love it.
Yes, it was a classic. So appropriate. I hope it sticks.
Again, what a crock!
Yes. I think it”Senator Government” really WAS a slip of the tongue. But if it was, I’d say that maybe God rather than Freud was responsible.
Hmmm
Well, you obviously watched the same debate I did. I thought he was terrific and Obama’s stuttered often trying to come back with an answer.
1972 The GOP won 44 states
Cool cat? That’s a rather racist stereotype.
But I would expect nothing different from your type.
MM is against whomever FR is for. Our resident lib. Just ignore her. She only posts to be negative and to get attention.
Yes, I designed it. I have no idea how to forward it to them.
Who were the pundits at Fox tonight?
I believe McPalin will win handily. Here are my reasons:
1) “Polls” that show Obama ahead tell a different story when internals are studied. Please see http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/14/an-eeyore-free-zone
Here’s a history lesson of ACTUAL RESULTS:
1980: Reagan 50.75%, Carter 41%, (+9.75 Reagan) Reagan won 45 states.
1984: Regan 58.77%, Mondale 40.56% (+18.21 Regan) Reagan won 49 states.
1988: Bush 53.37%, Dukakis 45.65% (+7.72 Bush) Bush won 42 states.
1992: Clinton 43.01%, Bush 37.45%, Perot 18.91% (+5.66% Clinton) Clinton won 30 states.
1996: Clinton 49.23%, Dole 40.72%, Perot 8.40% (+8.49% Clinton) Clinton won 31 states.
2000: Bush 47.87%, Gore 48.38% (Gore +0.49%) Bush won 30 states.
2004: Bush 50.73%, Kerry 48.27% (Bush +2.46%) Bush won 31 states.
NO WAY is Obama up 14 points!
2) Hillary and Bill are not acting like they want Obama to win, since she wants to run again in 2012, despite what she alludes to.
3) “Hussein” being Obama’s middle name is still news to most people.
4) A picture of Obama dressed as a Muslim (there are at least three) is still worth 1000 words (3000 in this case). Man your email station! Post bills!
5) The PUMAs who know the hows and whys of Hillary getting cheated, will vote Palin, and will pull others. Check out http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=33711&page=3 and http://democrats-against-obama.org
6) “Bitter ... [Gun Clingers]”, will vote McCain
7) The Palins ARE America and the conservative base. America and the conservative base will vote accordingly.
8) The NRA has “8 figures” of ads to unload in “swing” states
9) At one point, Obama was only 5 points up in New York! New York!
10) The Democrats were talking about Democratic consultants freaking out over Obama mis-managing his campaign before they settled into poll alteration.
11) The Enemedia is already spreading the meme that if Obama loses, it “is racism”. They see the tea leaves ...
12) The Media was calling the election for Kerry ELECTION MORNING in 2004, and Carter and Reagan polled evenly on election day! SOMEONE is trying to buffalo us with these polls! For more on the history of polls leaning Democrat, please see http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2106669/posts
13) McCain has only started to play the Ayers and ACORN cards. McCain has not yet played the Jeremiah Wright, Tony Rezko, Odinga, ... more at http://www.barackbook.com
14) Plenty of white Democratic voters are unimpressed with Obama, and will not vote for him. Democrats can’t energize their base!
15) Obama has only 60% of the Jewish vote last I checked, compared to the 75% Kerry got.
16) The Christian base that re-elected Bush in 2004, knows Sarah is more than a Sunday Christian, and is praying for her.
17) McCain opened 50 offices in California. It’s in play! It should be the bluest of the blue, and it is not.
18) Google “Bradley Effect”. Obama is getting poll votes he’ll never get on election day. PUMAs have also agreed to lie to pollsters about supporting Obama, and are encouraging others to do so.
19) Operation Chaos resulted in an overlarge quantity of Democrat registrations that will never ever vote Democratic.
20) Polls are meant by the liberal media, to SHAPE public opinion, not report it.
Feel free to post this list every time you see a Freeper feeling down. Please tell me if you think there are mistakes. If I ignore you, it’s because you didn’t convince me.
Bookmarked.
I will be in NYC- i will have a choice of which network to protest against.
Any preferences out there?
Yup! I saw that too!!!
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