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9 PM Eastern: St. Louis Vice Presidential Debate Live Thread
c-span.org ^ | October 2, 2008

Posted on 10/02/2008 1:48:23 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Okay, folks. Let's keep an eye on this debate and see if Sarah can beat down hairplug.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections; US: Alaska; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2008debates; 2008veep; biden; debates; election; electionpresident; elections; gaffemachine; jumpingthegun; mccainpalin; palin; palinattacks; palinping; palinpraise; sarahpalin; vpdebate; whenbidenspeakszz; whenbidenspeakszzzz
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To: fkabuckeyesrule
"I loved it when Sarah said “say it ain’t so joe” and then added “there ya go again”.

A definite turning poit. But, there were so many! Sarah rocked!!!
2,941 posted on 10/02/2008 8:08:50 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life ;o)
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To: sonic109

Wait - is that a strategy or a tactic? ;-)


2,942 posted on 10/02/2008 8:08:51 PM PDT by PhatHead
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To: Fundamentally Fair

I understand that. But it does not take away from the loss. Thats real. I know.


2,943 posted on 10/02/2008 8:09:04 PM PDT by waxer1 ( What is the difference between a pitbull and a hockey mom? lipstick-Gov Palin)
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas

My daughter thought that Gwen may have leaked the questions to Joe, given his immediate responses.


2,944 posted on 10/02/2008 8:09:16 PM PDT by kabar (.)
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas
***No gotchas***

Gwen tried a gotcha on the gay marriage issue and Palin reminded Gwen of the original question for Biden and answered that brilliantly.

2,945 posted on 10/02/2008 8:09:33 PM PDT by fkabuckeyesrule (Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/09/why_does_joe_biden_lie_about_a.html


2,946 posted on 10/02/2008 8:09:36 PM PDT by Fundamentally Fair (By the book or buy the farm--SAC Policy.)
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To: PhatHead

mccain needs to get his own satelite channel.

IT DOES NOT COST THAT MUCH.

just run his commercials,

just run sarah’s stump speeches over and over and over.

24/7

just keep in all rolling.

Even a simple report vote fraud hotline pitch.

they have such chances.


2,947 posted on 10/02/2008 8:09:42 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: US34

Sorry about the slowdown half way through the debate. We were cranking along under three times our normal load when suddenly one of the old servers smoked. Then all of our servers overloaded. Took John a few minutes to bust up the logjam. One server is still down, but the system is running.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2096085/posts?page=2387#2387
2,387 posted on Thursday, October 02, 2008 7:39:09 PM by Jim Robinson


2,948 posted on 10/02/2008 8:09:45 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... Capitol Switchboard: (202) 224-3121)
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To: Loyal Buckeye
Sarah had done in 5 weeks what Biden did in 35 years

Just had to be repeated so accurate.

2,949 posted on 10/02/2008 8:09:48 PM PDT by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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To: thecabal

This is Superfan Todd Swerski checking in with the final score in tonights debate.

Sarah Palin - 279

Joe Biden - 2


2,950 posted on 10/02/2008 8:09:50 PM PDT by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: BunnySlippers
O’Biden is no longer giving Sarah that smarmy smile ... and is NOW refering to Senator McCain.

You're right. Good catch!

2,951 posted on 10/02/2008 8:09:56 PM PDT by silent_jonny (it's O-ver)
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To: thesearethetimes...

Sarah said “Back in the day when we were free”
That hit me also. With Obama in power we will certainly be saying exactly that!
Great job picking that out and certainly a great, wonderful night for Sarah and our country.


2,952 posted on 10/02/2008 8:09:57 PM PDT by mojo114
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To: LUV W
It's not official at CNN
2,953 posted on 10/02/2008 8:10:00 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of the Masses Could be Farts)
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To: Bob

Bosnian who’s a Muslim.

If you are a Bosnian you are a Muslim. If you are not a Muslim in that part of the world you are a Serb.


2,954 posted on 10/02/2008 8:10:05 PM PDT by Chickensoup ('08 VOTING for the SUPREME COURT that will be BEST for my FAMILY and voting for SARAH PALIN!!!)
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To: LegalEagle61
She connected with average American people—that is the key in this—

neeeds repeating

2,955 posted on 10/02/2008 8:10:08 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Lipstick wearing Okie Moosehead!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Maybe it’s because I never watched those gotcha, gaffe interviews with Sarah, that made people here, of all places, start to lose faith in her, that I never doubted she would knock it out of the park tonight. Sometimes, you see, a bit of ignorance helps. Her character shone through at the Convention and no idiot box interviews could ever erase that. Trees. Forest.


2,956 posted on 10/02/2008 8:10:09 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Are you ready to pray for Teddy?)
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To: CindyDawg
She did just fine.

At what point does it become watchable? After 45 minutes? 60?

2,957 posted on 10/02/2008 8:10:23 PM PDT by supercat
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To: longtermmemmory

CNN new Motto: ‘CNN — The OFFICAL OBAMA LOVEFEST NETWORK!”


2,958 posted on 10/02/2008 8:10:30 PM PDT by EagleandLiberty (May we all live free...)
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To: tiki

“Why did he cry?”

Delawarean who doesn’t like Biden but for historical accuracy...

Biden’s wife and year-old daughter were killed in an automobile accident while Christmas shopping in Hockessin, Delaware on December 18, 1972,[2] just a few weeks after the election. (Neilia Biden’s station wagon was hit by a tractor-trailer as she pulled out from an intersection; the truck driver was cleared of any wrongdoing).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden


2,959 posted on 10/02/2008 8:10:33 PM PDT by Delacon ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." H. L. Mencken)
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To: Kevmo; All; y'all; et al

It looks like a bit of a mixed bag at Intrade, with Obama/Biden basically lightly ahead. Their ticket showed +1.2 on 1498 volume on the new Presidential Debate contract, which seems to be exactly for the purpose of which I’m using right now. The individual contracts, which normally have the highest volume and highest emotional content, had a +0.1 and –0.1 swing from McCain to Obama on low volume. Basically not much change. The Party contracts did see a + 2.7 point swing for Obama on light volume. BUT the Sarah Palin withdraw contract lost 4.9 points, almost half its value, on medium volume (on a thin contract, which is probably a significant indicator). The Biden Withdrawal contract dropped down 0.1 on only 1 share of volume.

What does this mean? Well, the volumes are kind of light, so it probably doesn’t mean much. However, on the Palin withdrawal contract, we would have seen it go UP significantly if she really did poorly, but it went DOWN significantly; also the volume on this contract is significant in comparison to the rest of the trades on that contract. So it looks like the perception of her being a lightweight is going out the window. But Biden held his own, and that’s about all the democrats needed to do in order to continue moving ahead.

Politics - Presidential Debates
Which ticket will benefit more from Vice Presidential debate?
Contract Bid Ask Last Vol Chge
VP.DEBATE.OBAMA
Barack Obama’s Intrade value will increase more than John McCain’s following the VP debate M Trade
Last Vol Change
New: 55.1 3149
Old: 53.9 1651 +1.2 on 1498 volume

Politics - 2008 US Election
2008 Presidential Election Winner (Individual)
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Barack Obama to win 2008 US Presidential Election M Trade
Last Vol Chge
New: 67.5 744328
Old: 67.4 742040 +0.1 on 2228 Volume

2008.PRES.McCAIN
John McCain to win 2008 US Presidential Election M Trade
New 32.5 730841
Old: 32.6 729087 -0.1 on 1754 volume

2008 Presidential Election Winner (Political Party)
Contract PRESIDENT.DEM2008
Democratic Party Candidate to Win 2008 Presidential Election M Trade
Last Vol Chge
New: 69.7 127640
Old: 68.8 127601 +0.9 on 39 Volume

PRESIDENT.REP2008
Republican Party Candidate to Win 2008 Presidential Election M Trade
Last Vol Chge
New: 30.7 119050
Old: 32.5 118861 -1.8 on 189 Volume

Sarah Palin to be withdrawn as Republican VP nominee/candidate
Contract PALIN.VP.WITHDRAWN
Sarah Palin to be withdrawn as Republican VP nominee/candidate before 2008 presidential election M Trade
Last Vol Chge
New: 5.1 39759
Old: 10.0 39021 –4.9 on 738 volume

Joe Biden to be withdrawn as Democratic VP candidate
Contract BIDEN.VP.WITHDRAWN
Joe Biden to be withdrawn as Democratic VP candidate before 2008 presidential election M Trade
Last Vol Chge
New: 5.9 9549
Old: 6.0 9548 -0.1 on 1 share of volume


2,960 posted on 10/02/2008 8:10:33 PM PDT by Kevmo (McCain's learning from Palin how to win a national election. Palin's learning from him how to lose 1)
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