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Hurricane Ike Live Thread III
NOAA/NHC ^ | 12 September 2008 | NOAA/NHC

Posted on 09/12/2008 5:12:09 AM PDT by NautiNurse

Large and dangerous Hurricane Ike approaching the Upper Texas coast. Mandatory evacuations began in earnest Thursday as an estimated one million coastal residents headed inland. There were widespread reports of gas stations running out of fuel.

The National Weather Service posted dire storm surge predictions of 20-25 ft storm surge along the coast and bay heads. Hurricane warnings covered a 400 mile swath of the Gulf of Mexico.

Wholesale gasoline prices spiked 30 percent Thursday, or nearly $1 a gallon, out of fear of what Ike might do.

Public Advisory Updated every 3 hours

Discussion Updated every 6 hours

Buoy data: Western Gulf of Mexico

Forecast Models

Houston/Galveston Long Range Radar
Corpus Christi Long Range Radar
Brownsville Long Range Radar
Lake Charles Long Range Radar

Ike
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Funktop Funktop Funktop Funktop
Rainbow Rainbow Rainbow Rainbow

Additional Resources:

Navy Tropical Cyclone
Storm Pulse Very cool site

KHOU Houston
ABC 13 News Houston
FOX News Houston

KPLC Lake Charles
KFDM 6 Beaumont/Port Arthur
KKBMT 12 Beaumont
KRIS-TV Corpus Christi
KZTV Corpus Christi

Brazoria County Emergency Management
Galveston County Emergency Management
Chambers Country Emergency Management
Liberty County Emergency Management

Category Wind Speed Barometric Pressure Storm Surge Damage Potential
Tropical
Depression
< 39 mph
< 34 kts
    Minimal
Tropical
Storm
39 - 73 mph
34 - 63 kts
    Minimal
Hurricane 1
(Weak)
74 - 95 mph
64 - 82 kts
28.94" or more
980.02 mb or more
4.0' - 5.0'
1.2 m - 1.5 m
Minimal damage to vegetation
Hurricane 2
(Moderate)
96 - 110 mph
83 - 95 kts
28.50" - 28.93"
965.12 mb - 979.68 mb
6.0' - 8.0'
1.8 m - 2.4 m
Moderate damage to houses
Hurricane 3
(Strong)
111 - 130 mph
96 - 112 kts
27.91" - 28.49"
945.14 mb - 964.78 mb
9.0' - 12.0'
2.7 m - 3.7 m
Extensive damage to small buildings
Hurricane 4
(Very strong)
131 - 155 mph
113 - 135 kts
27.17" - 27.90"
920.08 mb - 944.80 mb
13.0' - 18.0'
3.9 m - 5.5 m
Extreme structural damage
Hurricane 5
(Devastating)
Greater than 155 mph
Greater than 135 kts
Less than 27.17"
Less than 920.08 mb
Greater than 18.0'
Greater than 5.5m
Catastrophic building failures possible

Previous Threads:
Hurricane Ike Live Thread II
Hurricane Ike Live Thread I
TS Hanna, Hurricane Ike & TS Josephine [Other than that, the tropics are calm]
Tropical Storms Hanna, Ike and Josephine, TD Gustav (Other than that, the tropics are calm)


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Arkansas; US: Louisiana; US: Oklahoma; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: arkansas; california; crude; desiel; drill; flordia; florida; galveston; gasoline; gulf; hurricane; ike; louisiana; offshore; oil; oklahoma; prices; refineries; rigs; storm; texas; weather
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To: arkady_renko
"a good measure of the storm surge potential is Integrated Kinetic Energy (IKE)...he hurricane's Integrated Kinetic Energy has increased from 134 to 149 Terajoules. This is 30% higher than Katrina's total energy at landfall."

What an appropriate name for this storm.

May God protect those that live in the path of this hurricane. I pray the evacuations have been thorough, and that those affected will remain safe.

701 posted on 09/12/2008 11:42:11 AM PDT by Renata Maree
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To: NautiNurse

Tonight I will be glued to FOX news to witness Geraldo Rivera’s last stand in Galveston. Whether you like him or not, he is a gutsy macho fool who is in his element.


702 posted on 09/12/2008 11:42:24 AM PDT by Broker (Grandpa Petti Bones wants to know.)
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To: Xenalyte

Please put me on the ping list, X.


703 posted on 09/12/2008 11:42:39 AM PDT by ichabod1 (It's all fun and games until Russia starts invading Eastern Europe (pete))
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To: Xenalyte

Please add me to your ping list and good luck to you!

I’m in Houston proper, just outside the Loop near 290. (~60ft elevation)


704 posted on 09/12/2008 11:42:50 AM PDT by Tex_GOP_Cruz
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To: eastforker
If bad comes to worse we got a couch and beer over here!

Thanks! If I get totaled I'll remember that.

I figure about 2:00 or 3:00 AM we ought to be catching it.

705 posted on 09/12/2008 11:43:52 AM PDT by humblegunner (I'm voting for McCain because he's white.)
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To: metmom

They don’t have too much to worry about with storm surge, but they flood very easily. Wind and power outage will probably be a big problem.


706 posted on 09/12/2008 11:44:19 AM PDT by CarolAnn (If we aren't supposed to shoot animals, then why did God make them out of meat?)
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To: NautiNurse

Thanks.


707 posted on 09/12/2008 11:44:31 AM PDT by 2Jedismom (Family in Brazoria County, Houston and College Station.)
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To: texasredtop
And I don’t gamble with my life.

I'm sorry, Red Top... but, you are. All we are discussing now is: What your odds are?

If you think you can wait, and see what the storm surge is like tonight (at midnight).. and THEN leave... you're wrong.

That said... I think your odds are improving slightly. Now that we can see the actual eye on radar, Ike appears to be sliding just a bit further east that predicted. If so, that will cut the surge seen in your area by half.. leaving you very safe.

At worst... you won't be seeing catastrophic damage in your area.. probably just flooding. Which.. if you're THERE, you can actually help limit the damage.

You HAVE gambled... as none of us could say for certain just how bad it was going to be... and, it could STILL change. But, it looks to me like you've made a good call, and will most likely be OK.

Still though... I'll be praying for you.

708 posted on 09/12/2008 11:44:36 AM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( When you find yourself going through Hell, keep going!)
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To: Xenalyte

Count me in Xena as long as the power is on I’ll be here.


709 posted on 09/12/2008 11:44:49 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: arkady_renko; nwctwx
For N'oreasters, they rate them 1-5 by a combination of wind speed and fetch, or the distance the wind blows over open water. Long fetches are why N'oreasters can have weaker winds than hurricanes but put up flooding like a hurricane and waves far worse than hurricanes. For comparison, the 1993 Blizzard was a 3 for flooding and wave action, the 1992 N'oreaster was a 4, and the Perfect Storm of 1991 was a 5.

For large storms like Katrina, Rita and Ike, fetch starts to factor in along with windspeed. Ike is massive with a fetch blowing from the western tip of Cuba all the way into the NE Texas coast. That is a long ways for wave action to develop and to pile up water ahead of the storm.

710 posted on 09/12/2008 11:45:33 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: humblegunner

Yep, we both got lots of trees.


711 posted on 09/12/2008 11:45:59 AM PDT by eastforker (Dems Holler for your Dollars/Palin Hollers to Save you Dollars, OOOOH SARAHCUDA)
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To: humblegunner

Are you still here, humble? I clicked on your name to see your home page and it says your account has been banned or suspended. If you do see this post, good luck to you tonight!


712 posted on 09/12/2008 11:46:13 AM PDT by American Quilter (The urge to save humanity is nearly always a cover for the urge to rule. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: texasredtop

I was at a cocktail party that Saturday night, and everyone I talked to was staying. Watched the 10 pm news and went to bed without much worry. My sister called at 5 am to tell me K had exploded in the night, so I knew I had to go.

A great many people evacuated for Gustav 12 days ago, but we stayed. It was windy, but not hurricane force.

If you have knowledge of the area and plenty of hurricane experience — as you seem to do — then take the appropriate precautions for your home and use your own judgment. Remember that most of those urging you to do this or that have their own agendas, not yours at heart. Politicians would be happiest if citizens never came home at all, except to vote and pay taxes.


713 posted on 09/12/2008 11:46:44 AM PDT by Romulus ("Ira enim viri iustitiam Dei non operatur")
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To: Broker

Oh... Geraldo will be OK. There are buildings on Galveston that will likely survive.. I’d be willing to stay at the San Luis Hotel. Holiday Inn?? Not so sure... I’ve stayed there MANY MANY times... but, not while the island was being washed by waves.. no thanks.


714 posted on 09/12/2008 11:47:02 AM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( When you find yourself going through Hell, keep going!)
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To: gracesdad
One station just showed a rattler and rat crossing a highway. Bad sign when the critters run for higher ground. Did they identify the location?
715 posted on 09/12/2008 11:47:02 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Palin won more votes in her Wasilla Mayoral race than Biden got in his 2008 Pres run)
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To: Aggie Mama

Bill White is a an idiot. Sorry for the blunt opinion. God help us if he runs for Governor.


716 posted on 09/12/2008 11:47:24 AM PDT by DrewsMum (Out of La Porte, TX now, just waiting and watching and freeping...)
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To: Renata Maree

I join you in prayer now, for all of those in the path of the storm -

God of wind and rain, we come to You. In the hour of our need, You hear our prayer and heed our cry.

Father, protect Your children - in Jesus name we pray...


717 posted on 09/12/2008 11:47:50 AM PDT by dandelion
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To: arkady_renko

Yeah, I read all that. What’s your point?


718 posted on 09/12/2008 11:48:04 AM PDT by Romulus ("Ira enim viri iustitiam Dei non operatur")
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To: American Quilter

the mother stated she wants her children to learn about big storms.

duh...

I am really angry our coast guard men & women are in danger to try to save these dimwits.

Need to leave shortly for chiropractor, stores, errands etc.

will catch up later tonight


719 posted on 09/12/2008 11:48:20 AM PDT by DollyCali (Don't tell GOD how big your storm is -- Tell the storm how B-I-G your God is!)
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To: gracesdad
One station just showed a rattler and rat crossing a highway.

I thought Obama and Biden were campaigning in New York?!

720 posted on 09/12/2008 11:48:25 AM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.)
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