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Hurricane Ike Live Thread III
NOAA/NHC ^ | 12 September 2008 | NOAA/NHC

Posted on 09/12/2008 5:12:09 AM PDT by NautiNurse

Large and dangerous Hurricane Ike approaching the Upper Texas coast. Mandatory evacuations began in earnest Thursday as an estimated one million coastal residents headed inland. There were widespread reports of gas stations running out of fuel.

The National Weather Service posted dire storm surge predictions of 20-25 ft storm surge along the coast and bay heads. Hurricane warnings covered a 400 mile swath of the Gulf of Mexico.

Wholesale gasoline prices spiked 30 percent Thursday, or nearly $1 a gallon, out of fear of what Ike might do.

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Discussion Updated every 6 hours

Buoy data: Western Gulf of Mexico

Forecast Models

Houston/Galveston Long Range Radar
Corpus Christi Long Range Radar
Brownsville Long Range Radar
Lake Charles Long Range Radar

Ike
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Additional Resources:

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Storm Pulse Very cool site

KHOU Houston
ABC 13 News Houston
FOX News Houston

KPLC Lake Charles
KFDM 6 Beaumont/Port Arthur
KKBMT 12 Beaumont
KRIS-TV Corpus Christi
KZTV Corpus Christi

Brazoria County Emergency Management
Galveston County Emergency Management
Chambers Country Emergency Management
Liberty County Emergency Management

Category Wind Speed Barometric Pressure Storm Surge Damage Potential
Tropical
Depression
< 39 mph
< 34 kts
    Minimal
Tropical
Storm
39 - 73 mph
34 - 63 kts
    Minimal
Hurricane 1
(Weak)
74 - 95 mph
64 - 82 kts
28.94" or more
980.02 mb or more
4.0' - 5.0'
1.2 m - 1.5 m
Minimal damage to vegetation
Hurricane 2
(Moderate)
96 - 110 mph
83 - 95 kts
28.50" - 28.93"
965.12 mb - 979.68 mb
6.0' - 8.0'
1.8 m - 2.4 m
Moderate damage to houses
Hurricane 3
(Strong)
111 - 130 mph
96 - 112 kts
27.91" - 28.49"
945.14 mb - 964.78 mb
9.0' - 12.0'
2.7 m - 3.7 m
Extensive damage to small buildings
Hurricane 4
(Very strong)
131 - 155 mph
113 - 135 kts
27.17" - 27.90"
920.08 mb - 944.80 mb
13.0' - 18.0'
3.9 m - 5.5 m
Extreme structural damage
Hurricane 5
(Devastating)
Greater than 155 mph
Greater than 135 kts
Less than 27.17"
Less than 920.08 mb
Greater than 18.0'
Greater than 5.5m
Catastrophic building failures possible

Previous Threads:
Hurricane Ike Live Thread II
Hurricane Ike Live Thread I
TS Hanna, Hurricane Ike & TS Josephine [Other than that, the tropics are calm]
Tropical Storms Hanna, Ike and Josephine, TD Gustav (Other than that, the tropics are calm)


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Arkansas; US: Louisiana; US: Oklahoma; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: arkansas; california; crude; desiel; drill; flordia; florida; galveston; gasoline; gulf; hurricane; ike; louisiana; offshore; oil; oklahoma; prices; refineries; rigs; storm; texas; weather
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To: NautiNurse

On this stream, they are saying a cat 4 or 5 surge on the cat 2 hurricane Ike.

http://www.khou.com/video/?nvid=178826&live=yes&noad=yes


561 posted on 09/12/2008 10:24:25 AM PDT by LadyPilgrim ((Lifted up was He to die; It is finished was His cry; Hallelujah what a Savior!!!!!! ))
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To: AFPhys

Surge maps are on the NWS’s Ike page, down below the forecast track:

http://www.noaawatch.gov/2008/ike.php

The surge maps up there now are interesting. Galveston Island gets between 10 (west end) and 15 (east end) feet. 17-19 feet up the bay. The worst of it is actually showing EAST of Port Arthur, up to 29.4 feet. Cameron Parish, LA, 15 feet. Calcasieu Parish, LA, 14 feet (and they’re inland of Cameron). New Orleans, 7 feet. Vermillion, 10 feet.

This thing is a bloody monster. Has there ever been a hurricane that caused this much coastal surge over this wide an area?

}:-)4


562 posted on 09/12/2008 10:25:14 AM PDT by Moose4 (http://moosedroppings.wordpress.com -- Because 20 million self-important blogs just aren't enough.)
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To: NautiNurse

This is pretty unsettling. We have lost faith in the press to distinguish drama from facts.

There’s Janice Dean- saying this could be worse than Katrina...but she was pretty hyped about Gustav for awhile too.

Reading the thread I see everything from- don’t be silly- a little wind and some local flooding to- run for your lives we’re all gonna die.

Hard to get an accurate reading, though I don’t think the NHC issues warnings of potential death too often.


563 posted on 09/12/2008 10:25:28 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet-McCain/Palin 08)
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To: SomeCallMeTim

And I can’t say for certainty we will stay either. It’s not even raining here yet. We have all afternoon to go if we decide to hit the road. Like I said earlier, I try to never say never. And I don’t gamble with my life.


564 posted on 09/12/2008 10:25:34 AM PDT by texasredtop
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To: spectre

Houston mayor a Dem or Rep?


565 posted on 09/12/2008 10:25:35 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: metmom

what came up was a web cam posted on a steering wheel of some one leaving Galveston.

is that the one?

I can no longer get the live stream I provided earlier. I rebooted thinking my ram was chocked up but still cant get it

any one else have live stream coverage of this somewhere?


566 posted on 09/12/2008 10:27:49 AM PDT by DollyCali (Don't tell GOD how big your storm is -- Tell the storm how B-I-G your God is!)
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To: 1066AD

The Flagship was so nice when it was new.


567 posted on 09/12/2008 10:28:24 AM PDT by lonestar (Jasper)
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To: AFPhys

We have many many more hours to make the call to leave if necessary.


568 posted on 09/12/2008 10:29:17 AM PDT by texasredtop
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To: dirtboy

We’re in Montrose/Westmoreland, and I don’t think a bayou is that nearby. We are on the second floor of an apartment building.


569 posted on 09/12/2008 10:29:50 AM PDT by Unlikely Hero ("Time is a wonderful teacher; unfortunately, it kills all its pupils." --Berlioz)
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To: AFPhys
I believe there are actually two surges. One is the wind surge kicked up by the strong winds pushing water ahead of it and the second is the storm surge from water from the surrounding area rising up inside the eye due to the low pressure. With a large wind surge coming up against the coast outflow will be impaired. Then when the storm surge reaches it will be on top of the existing wind surge.

I.e., the models may actually be under-predicting the landfall storm surge at this point due to the large wind surge already ahead of it [no I couldn't have just said that].

570 posted on 09/12/2008 10:29:55 AM PDT by Justa (The media lied while Americans died.)
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To: lainie
The meterologist at KHOU just said this is a cat 2 storm in terms of wind, but a cat 4 or 5 in terms of surge. It can’t be overemphasized

And that meterologist is Dr. Neil Frank, former director of the National Hurricane Center. Doc knows storms.

571 posted on 09/12/2008 10:30:18 AM PDT by OBXWanderer (Now is the time for all good men [and women] to come to the aid of their country.)
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To: TheMom

Just finishing up last minute preps. Had my laptop aircard reinstated since it is certain we will lose cable and power, hopefuly the Sat dish won’t blow away. Got brother and SIL coming over for the night, they live in trailer. Phones forwarded to the cells. I think we will make out OK IFFF the trees don’t give way.


572 posted on 09/12/2008 10:30:36 AM PDT by eastforker (Dems Holler for your Dollars/Palin Hollers to Save you Dollars, OOOOH SARAHCUDA)
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To: Romulus
In my experience, they over-forecast storms.

Gawd, how often does it have to be repeated? THEY UNDER-FORECAST KATRINA. PEOPLE DIED AS A RESULT. FIVE FEET OF ELEVATION IS NOT A SANE SAFETY MARGIN.

I’ll repeat my earlier comment: none of us is able to judge another’s prospects for safety by reading about it on line.

I'll repeat my earlier response to that comment. HUNDREDS DIED IN NOLA DUE TO THAT ATTITUDE.

573 posted on 09/12/2008 10:31:02 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: rwfromkansas
Yeah RW, I just don't get it at all. There was so much criticism on FR of the folks that stayed for Katrina, and I can't believe the cavalier attitude by some.

We sell rescue gear at our business - I don't want to hear that one of our customers (Fire, EMS, Technical Rescue, Swiftwater Rescue personnel) did not come home to their families because they tried to rescue someone who thought this was a good excuse to have a drinking party.

574 posted on 09/12/2008 10:31:21 AM PDT by arkady_renko
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To: NautiNurse; All


Storm surge in Ocean Springs, Mississippi. Ike is more than 400 miles to the SSW, but surge is 5-6 feet.

Picture is from 10:15 am today.
575 posted on 09/12/2008 10:31:57 AM PDT by Islander7 ("Common sense and common decency are uncommon virtues among America's left.")
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To: texasredtop
We have many many more hours to make the call to leave if necessary.

If you wait until you know for sure, it's too late.

576 posted on 09/12/2008 10:32:00 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: DollyCali

Live stream to Houston


577 posted on 09/12/2008 10:32:25 AM PDT by DollyCali (Don't tell GOD how big your storm is -- Tell the storm how B-I-G your God is!)
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To: eastforker

Take care, Mr. and Mrs. eastforker!


578 posted on 09/12/2008 10:32:50 AM PDT by pax_et_bonum (That midget hates it when I do that.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

The only silver lining to these awful storms is getting the opportunity to watch Drama Queen Jerry make a big fool of himself.


579 posted on 09/12/2008 10:33:08 AM PDT by Cecily
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To: Unlikely Hero

Does your apartment building have a third floor or higher?


580 posted on 09/12/2008 10:33:13 AM PDT by dirtboy
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