Posted on 09/01/2008 9:05:11 AM PDT by WackySam
ST. PAUL -- The 17-year-old daughter of Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin is pregnant, Palin said on Monday in an announcement intended to knock down rumors by liberal bloggers that Palin faked her own pregnancy to cover up for her child.
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I am amaze by this. People are so afraid of Obama they will excuse anything. I had a hard time with McCain because of his disrespect of Viet Nam Vets and his terrible judgement,(I decided to vote for him anyway when he first named Palin) but for all these people to think teen pregnancy is a good thing or parents are not responsible for their kids behavior is really pathetic.
Based on the reaction of McCain supporters I think I will go back and write in the black guy - a true conservative - Thomas Sowell.
There can be a big difference between being a conservative and a christian.
Teen pregnancy in itself is not a social problem. Teen pregnancy among teenagers who have no family to support them because Daddy left a long time ago and the state has been unsuccessfully trying to fill his role is a problem. Pregnancy at any age is a problem among women and girls who see it as just another way to collect welfare.
A teenager with a steady boyfriend who gets carried away and finds herself pregnant, is loved and supported by her family and her baby’s father, is going to have the baby and marry the father...I fail to see the problem. Maybe she did things outside of the ideal sequence, but this is hardly a new or shocking thing.
Incidentally, I once read an analysis of birth and marriage registrations in colonial America - Massachusetts, I think it was, during the time of the Pilgrims - that revealed that a large number and perhaps even the majority of women were already pregnant when they married.
No, I just see the results of teen pregnancy. I have a sister-in-law who was 15 when she got pregnant. She married the dad. She has been married 3 times, and has 6 kids. She’s been on welfare. Her oldest child has been in and out of jail (I don’t know his status currently). One of her daughters has many children out of wedlock and is in her early 20s.
Teen pregnancy should not be embraced and celebrated. It is a very difficult situation.
Now, do I think we all make mistakes. Yes. I’ve made and make a lot of them. However, they are mistakes. Do we still love and support anyone who makes a mistake? Of course.
Why do you consider bringing a new life into the world a "tragedy."
I am sure she did as did all of the conservative parents of my peers. However, her daughter made a bad impulsive decision - similar to the ones made by many of my peers. It is sad, but she determined to grow up and do the right by getting married and keeping the baby. You may not have gotten pregnant out of wedlock but I am sure that you have made other bad decisions in your life. Having a baby out of wedlock and then choosing to do the responsible thing and get married is no worse than those other sins. I know in my life that I have done a few things that I regret. However, I don’t believe that my parents are responsible for my failures - there is only so much that parent can do.
Ya Jveritas I know we are all hypocrites in some way or another, but the lack of compassion by a couple of posters here seems to lend credence to some of the “conservative Christian” stereotypes; uncaring, condemning, selfish etc.
The girl was wrong to have sex with her boyfriend but it is a done deal. Throwing rocks will not change it. We should show the love that Christ would show the family.
Shame just drives people into the dark. Remember Adam and Eve and how they handled their shame ?
Good grief.
I was wondering if the Romneybots would try and undermine the GOP after their “precious” was spurned twice. Noting that a good portion of those trashing Palin on this thread are Romneybots I am guessing I will have to conclude yes.
Somehow that does not surprise me.
I expect many of them will try to undermine the GOP candidates at every opportunity.
Are you stating that you are a Christian? Really?
I'm Grover Cleveland and I approved this message
Fwiw, Grover was accused of fathering a child out of wedlock. his opponents reported that Cleveland had fathered an illegitimate child while he was a lawyer in Buffalo.
The derisive phrase "Ma, Ma, where's my Pa?" rose as an unofficial campaign slogan for those who opposed him. When confronted with the emerging scandal, Cleveland's instructions to his campaign staff were: "Tell the truth."
Cleveland admitted to paying child support in 1874 to Maria Crofts Halpin, the woman who claimed he fathered her child named Oscar Folsom Cleveland. Halpin was involved with several men at the time, including Cleveland's friend and law partner, Oscar Folsom, for whom the child was named.
Cleveland did not know which man was the father, and is believed to have assumed responsibility because he was the only bachelor among them.
While the popular vote total was close, with Cleveland winning by just one-quarter of a percent, the electoral votes gave Cleveland a majority of 219182.
Following the electoral victory, the "Ma, Ma..." attack phrase gained a classic rejoinder: "Gone to the White House. Ha! Ha! Ha!"
Too many posts to scroll through, but my first guess is that the line of attack by Colmes and the like will be to question her judgment as a mother.
As for myself, it changes nothing. It’s tough that her daughter got pregnant so young (assuming this was unexpected), but it happens. I’ll still back McCain/Palin on Election Day.
As Robert Bork pointed out, there are Amish kids in Pennsylvania who know about Madonna, despite the best efforts of their parents.
Liberal hedonism is akin to setting up a smelter in a back yard in a neighborhood, then screaming to the neighbors, "If you don't like it don't breath".
The neighbors ARE affected by the smelter, and not breathing is not an option.
The pill is designed to prevent ovulation, but when it fails at this, it acts as an abortifacient by preventing implantation of the fertilized egg.
We don’t accept teen pregnancy. However, a parent can only do so much - kids make their own choices. Also, once a kid has made a terrible mistake but then grows up and decides to do the right thing by keeping the child and getting married, it would be wrong to ostracise them. People make mistakes and raking them over the coals after they choose to be responsible is counter productive and cruel.
I can tell you straight out that I am not a Romneybot. Romney's another RINO just like the rest of them.
I expect many of them will try to undermine the GOP candidates at every opportunity.
I am happy to undermine liberal GOP candidates and RINOs. However, I generally stand behind conservative GOP candidates, unless they massively screw up.
Don’t you realize that this is wonderful for McCain. The dims immediately went to dig up dirt on Sarah Palin. When they couldn’t find any, they manufactured it... abusing her child? Mothers in this country are FURIOUS. Now they are proud of Palin for coming forward with this news proving the Dims to be hatemongers.
They are watching the Republicans closely to see how they handle this latest news. Are they sexist, bigots that would turn their back on Palin and her daughter? Or are they caring, loving people that support family?
The dims lost this elections themselves. Unfortunately, the incredibly ignorant among us are losing this advantage. Hopefully they will see this is a small majority of morons with a severe case of sour grapes.
The only mistake McCain made was in underestimating the hatefulness and small-mindedness of the bots in his own party. He was spot on knowing what the dims would do.
what is the most moral response for McCain?
You mean... what WAS the moral response?
McCain already made the call. He knew the die was cast when he selected Palin.
The Palin family should have announced this news to the world last week. Then the political decisions could have been made in an open and honest manner. Too late to do anything about this now. But McCain loses credibility in my eyes for operating in such a low-handed manner.
Heh heh I won’t raise mine. The Lord would slap it down !
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