Posted on 08/13/2008 9:44:45 AM PDT by Sopater
A federal judge has ruled the University of California can deny course credit to Christian high school graduates who have been taught with textbooks that reject evolution and declare the Bible infallible, the San Francisco Chronicle reported.
U.S. District Judge James Otero of Los Angeles ruled Friday that the school's review committees did not discriminate against Christians because of religious viewpoints when it denied credit to those taught with certain religious textbooks, but instead made a legitimate claim that the texts failed to teach critical thinking and omitted important science and history topics.
Charles Robinson, the university's vice president for legal affairs, told the Chronicle that the ruling "confirms that UC may apply the same admissions standards to all students and to all high schools without regard to their religious affiliations."
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You are the personification of bearing false witness.
It appears to be your profession. When we see doc30, it is a given that deception is flowing.
Absolutely! And there are several references by the founding fathers about it!
They are of their Father, and they do his will.
Some day they’ll be able to join him.
By your standards, virtually any workplace is equally hostile to religion.
Okay. Let's apply that same standard to government. Government can only be "god-centered" or "godless", and "godless" is explicitly atheistic. All governments must fall into one or the other of these descriptions.
Any reference you see to "secular government" is nonsensical - there can be no such thing.
Tell that to the people of Nanking.
"India is overwhelmingly Hindu, and we don't see any of these things, either."
What we see is over 99% of the population living in squalor, with a life expectancy of around 25 years. The other 1% live like royalty. There is probably nothing on Earth that can equal the intense evil of hinduism.
We still have troops in Japan. The are civilized now because Christians tamed a rabid dog.
Also,...Hindus regularly attack Christians and burn their churches. For proof just do a Google on the words: Hindus, Christians Attack Burn.
Nice people there! (sarc)
I suppose that you can be forgiven for your ignorance, but both of those institutions were founded by the Church of England, which happened to also own the government at the time.
All kinds of things flow.
Your postings, for example, are indistinguishable from the output of a coffee enema.
By your standards, virtually any workplace is equally hostile to religion.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
People **voluntarily** work for a business or agency. This is unlike schools where many children have no other option but police threat to be in government control.
Also....businesses are generally not selling a product that destroys another’s religion. The very “business” of government education is the absolute, continual, and never ending indoctrination of children in the religion of atheistic Secular Humanism.
With private business, the citizen has the opportunity not to accept a product that violates his freedom of conscience. He is not forced in any way to give money to it to support it.
With regard to government schooling( and this included UC), government will send out armed sheriffs to sell a citizen’s home at auction. If a citizen refuses to pay for the atheistic Secular Humanist product served up to our nation’s captive children, he **will** face court and police action. If he were to be sufficiently resistant, the police will kill him.
Sorry...but there is very big difference between government school and the adult workplace.
One more thing about private business:
When a Christian agrees to work for a business he is promising to help make that business as productive as possible. If he were to attempt to proselytize on the job (especially during work time) he is cutting down on the productivity of the business and stealing his employers time.
Christians who do this on the job, are using God’s name wrongly and stealing time and productivity from his employer.
If his employer believes that talking about religion cuts down on productivity then it is the Christian’s duty to respect that, or find other work.
Is it bad form to judge a religion by the actions of some fringe extremist groups like the Dominionists that were discussed earlier in the thread?
godless and secular are synonymous.
Funny thing is, if the students went to a muslim school that taught creationism, would they still want the credits transferred?
Science is testable, it builds on fact, it is unbiased. Creationism is just religious beliefs, not everyone believes, nor wants those who believe to shove it down their throats.
Good for the school, good for intelligent thought!
So students in a classroom environment have no responsibility to contribute to, or at least refrain from disrupting any structure or order that contributes to the student’s productivity the way adults in a workplace do?
If someone wants to go through life believing that science is wrong, I won’t try to stop them. I will, however, try to stop people from teaching nonscience in science class.
Exactly, if someone wants to go to christian college and get a fake degree in ID, go ahead.
Good luck finding a job anywhere respectable.
If a Christian promises to work for an employer and be as productive as possible and then steals his employers time to proselytize he is also LYING.
This Christian is bearing false witness! His has contracted to do one thing and instead does another.
While an **adult** is strong in his faith and sufficiently mature enough to deal with the temptations of the world, children are not!
What would we think of a neighbor who knowingly and deliberately tempted Jewish children with pork, or Mormon children with coffee ice cream? What if this neighbor tempted them to dress immodestly or lured them to a prohibited event on a religious day? We would consider this neighbor to be cruel and abusive.
So..It is cruel for an ordinary citizen to do this,...but,...government has police to help them do it.
Are godless and atheistic synonymous?
Good. We need more people like you to stand up against the ID movement in our school boards.
So your idea of a properly run school is one where your child can sit at his desk all day, every day reading the Bible and ignoring the lessons being taught if he feels like it, or preach a sermon while the instructor is trying to present a lesson or lecture, and get praise, encouragement, and a passing grade?
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