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Shocker: Obama's "birth certificate" forged with sister Maya's original
Israeli Insider ^ | 8/5/08 | staff

Posted on 08/05/2008 7:20:42 AM PDT by pissant

Independent analysts, working separately, have discovered that the original Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth used in the fabrication of the Barack Obama "birth certificate" belongs to the Presidential candidate's younger half-sister, Maya.

Examining the high resolution image originally posted by the "Daily Kos" left-wing blog and subsequently claimed as authentic by the campaign, and posted in lower resolution on the campaign official "Fight the Smears" website, at least two analysts have been able to independently discern the name "Maya Kassandra Soetoro" from artifacts left behind in the process of forging a new fake document for Barack from an image of Maya's original document. Additional confirmatory information, such as her birthday and the nationality of her father have also been resurrected. A full report documenting all details is to be published in the coming days.

The dramatic development comes just a day after a forensic specialist, posting on the Texas Darling blog under the name Techdude (his real name is known to Israel Insider), announced the discovery of the identity of the original owner of the COLB document used in the forgery but would initially only indicate that it was a woman born in the 1970's. However, he provided enough clues to enable another graphic specialist (screen name KG) to independently reproduce the incriminating evidence. (Techdude had said that he wanted to give the guilty parties time to confess to the forgery, but also to allow independent confirmation of his discovery. He even offered to pay for a trip to Vegas to the first person to discover the name and detail the method by which it was discovered.)

According to Texas Darling, which exclusively published these latest revelations, there is more to come: "In the coming days, Techdude will provide a final report that fully discloses his discovery, and provides all the fancy technical data, images, formulae etc. that everyone has come to expect. He will respond to questions posted on this blog to the best of his ability. (NOTE: KG has asked Techdude to donate the trip funds to help retire Hillary's debt, and Techdude has agreed.)" In the meantime, KG has posted details on how artifacts of the name "Maya Kassandra Soetero" were discerned.

The revelation that the COLB of Obama's own sister was evidently used to create the electronic forgery represents a "smoking gun" that appears to implicate Senator Obama directly. Hawaii law limits access to vital records to family members only, a fact which slowed down the ability of researchers to compare the purported Obama "birth certificate" -- which displayed from the start a peculiar provenance and inexplicable features -- to genuine specimens. Therefore, it would seem that either Maya K. Soetoro-Ng (as she is now called) supplied the document or its image to half-brother Barack or his campaign, or Obama/his campaign used it without her permission.

It appears unlikely, to say the least, that the campaign would have independently managed to obtain Maya's COLB, forged Barak's fake COLB using Maya's original, and verified the result as genuine without the candidate's knowledge and involvement. This is particularly true given the high profile treatment with which the campaign has treated the purported veracity of the supposed "birth certificate" in its Fight the Smears website. The apparent use of the Soetero document increases the likelihood of direct Obama involvement in the supply, production, and/or propagation of the forgery.

The stakes couldn't be higher. Even the Snopes anti-rumor site acknowledges that Obama's constitutional fitness to be president depends solely on his being born in the United States, because his mother -- not yet 19 at the time of his birth -- would not have had a sufficient number of years as an adult citizen, according to the laws prevailing at the time, to pass on "natural born citizenship" automatically.

There have been reports, so far unconfirmed, that Obama was born outside the country, either in Kenya, his presumed father's native land, or in Canada. The fact that the Obama campaign has been touting as genuine a forgery since June 12 will likely increase pressure to not only account for the fake but produce a genuine paper birth certificate. Obama, in his book Dreams from My Father, specifically mentioned having such a document in his possession, but it has not been submitted for public inspection or analysis if it in fact exists.

Intriguingly, too, Maya Soetoro-Ng is believed to have been born outside the United States, in Indonesia, so her apparent ownership of a Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth raises questions about how such a document was produced for an Indonesian-born girl. That, too, may shed light on Barack Obama's citizenship status and his ability, or inability, to document it.

Ironically, but perhaps not coincidentally, the Obama campaign has challenged the credentials of Republican opponent John McCain, because he makes no secret of being born out of the country, in Panama. But both of McCain's parents were Americans so, unlike Obama, are by statute able to pass on natural born citizen status to their foreign-born child.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; colbaquiddic; fake; forgery; fraud; larrysinclairslover; obama; obamatruthfile; qfp; soetero; tangledweb; unqualified; whokilleddoanldyoung
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To: fieldmarshaldj

No. His father was not a citizen and his mother wasn’t old enough to make Obama a “natural born” citizen. Citizen yes, but not natural born.


101 posted on 08/05/2008 8:00:31 AM PDT by autumnraine
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To: old and cranky

I don’t like either choice either.


102 posted on 08/05/2008 8:01:23 AM PDT by autumnraine
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To: conservativegramma

Oh, you put this so nicely.


103 posted on 08/05/2008 8:01:47 AM PDT by autumnraine
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Especially since the one thing that struck me about that birth announcement was that it was his Grandparents who announced it. Not his parents.

Isn’t that odd?


104 posted on 08/05/2008 8:02:23 AM PDT by autumnraine
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To: Tawiskaro

In an interview on Monday, Bill Clinton said, “I think everybody’s got a right to run for President who qualifies under the Constitution.”

I noticed Bill’s comment on this too. He is always calculated in his remarks. Very, VERY interesting.


105 posted on 08/05/2008 8:02:47 AM PDT by nana4bush
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To: AppyPappy

My bad. Sorry...


106 posted on 08/05/2008 8:02:48 AM PDT by jagusafr ("Bugs, Mr. Rico! Zillions of 'em!" - Robert Heinlein)
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To: Savage Beast

Well, when one is deceitful, it makes you question everything else ever said.


107 posted on 08/05/2008 8:03:03 AM PDT by autumnraine
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To: All

BTW

The MSM is not going to touch this story because they know a sizable chuck of the electorate still have a valid belief that Obama is a Moslem.

Imagine if “Obama was not born in the USA” hits the speed of Gossip. Their favorite socialist would have no coronation.


108 posted on 08/05/2008 8:04:00 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: calex59

I am going to comment to your post because this was written so well.


109 posted on 08/05/2008 8:04:29 AM PDT by autumnraine
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To: Heartland Mom

Perhaps they are printing the better forgery as we speak.


110 posted on 08/05/2008 8:04:53 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: calex59
Excuse me, I gues you have trouble reading, this is a new development, the allegations, as you call them. are no longer allegations but proven fact. Two separate people, working independently, have proven this is a fake certificate.

I read the article. The two people are a couple of anonymous bloggers called "Techdude" and "KS." We know nothing about them or the processes they used to come to their conclusions. This is far from a "proven fact."

Whether or not he was born in Hawaii is not the peoples burden of proof but is on Obamaosama.

I really hate having to defend Obama, but so far the only real, documentary evidence out there supports the claim that he was born in the US. There is no documentary or testamentary proof that Obama's mother was anywhere other than Hawaii when he was born.

What you are proposing, basically, is that a nine month pregnant woman flew all the way to Kenya (in 1961, which was a very long flight compared to today), then smuggled her newborn back into the country shortly after his birth (again, travelling halfway around the world with a newborn after giving birth in a third-world country) and everyone in the family spent the next forty-plus years playing along with the charade because they thought Obama might run for President some day.

111 posted on 08/05/2008 8:05:04 AM PDT by Citizen Blade ("Please... I go through everyone's trash." The Question)
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To: autumnraine

whoa... can you confirm the fec verification rule thing? Very interesting point you make if you can confirm.


112 posted on 08/05/2008 8:06:48 AM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: autumnraine

Well I know his father wasn’t an American, but I’m at a loss to understand what his mother’s age has to do with anything. Was his mother not a native-born American ? If so, he’d still technically be an American citizen even if born on foreign soil (unless she had renounced her citizenship). I think the bigger issue here is the fraud itself in covering up his birth records and subterfuge on place of birth.


113 posted on 08/05/2008 8:07:01 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: old and cranky

Is who claiming? Obama? No, if he did, he couldn’t run.

But if he did accept his citizenship of Indonesia, back in 1981, it would make him ineligible.

At the very least, at this point, why is he forging his birth certificate?


114 posted on 08/05/2008 8:07:57 AM PDT by autumnraine
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To: catchem

I wouldn’t doubt that either.


115 posted on 08/05/2008 8:08:32 AM PDT by autumnraine
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To: Citizen Blade

I would think that Obama would have had to produce his Birth Certificate before. I had to produce my son’s this week to sign up for POP Warner football. Someone else must have this on record to compare.


116 posted on 08/05/2008 8:08:42 AM PDT by teddyballgame
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To: Citizen Blade
but your average reporter would give his firstborn to be the one to break a story that would disqualify a Presidential candidate from running.

Reporters like the ones who ignored the Lewinsky case?

Reporters like the ones who ignored the Edwards case?

Reporters like the ones who ignored the Ron Brown case?

Reporters like the ones who ignored the Fort Marcy Park case?

Reporters like the ones who ... << insert your example here >>?

There are reporters who would follow this up, and I predict that when this story gains legs they will do so. But those reporters will not be members of the US MSM. IMO they will be Germans or British or something.

117 posted on 08/05/2008 8:08:57 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: autumnraine

Laws and rules do not apply to Democrats.

Soros has donated so much money that money makes any laws irrelevant.

There is no equal under the law, just equal under the double standard if you are on the favored side of the double standard.


118 posted on 08/05/2008 8:09:38 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: autumnraine

Well, it was well written except for the part where he accused me of having trouble reading...just have questions....


119 posted on 08/05/2008 8:09:41 AM PDT by old and cranky (You! Out Of The Gene Pool - Now!)
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To: autumnraine
At the very least, at this point, why is he forging his birth certificate?

DING DING DING!!! That's the million dollar question.

A question some on this board seem incapable of asking in their zeal to defend the obamamessiah.

120 posted on 08/05/2008 8:10:14 AM PDT by conservativegramma
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