I read the article. The two people are a couple of anonymous bloggers called "Techdude" and "KS." We know nothing about them or the processes they used to come to their conclusions. This is far from a "proven fact."
Whether or not he was born in Hawaii is not the peoples burden of proof but is on Obamaosama.
I really hate having to defend Obama, but so far the only real, documentary evidence out there supports the claim that he was born in the US. There is no documentary or testamentary proof that Obama's mother was anywhere other than Hawaii when he was born.
What you are proposing, basically, is that a nine month pregnant woman flew all the way to Kenya (in 1961, which was a very long flight compared to today), then smuggled her newborn back into the country shortly after his birth (again, travelling halfway around the world with a newborn after giving birth in a third-world country) and everyone in the family spent the next forty-plus years playing along with the charade because they thought Obama might run for President some day.
I would think that Obama would have had to produce his Birth Certificate before. I had to produce my son’s this week to sign up for POP Warner football. Someone else must have this on record to compare.
“We know nothing about them or the processes they used to come to their conclusions”
I’m sorry, but that is just false. We know quite a bit about techdude and even MORE about his processes since he has documented them through pages and pages of explanations and direct photos. Maybe you should check them out on texasdarlin’s site???
I don’t think Techdude has made his case at all.
http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2008/08/truth-about-fake-birth-certificate.html
I also hate to defend Obama, but no one has even come close to showing that the COLB is a forgery, imo.
Techdude’s very first photo example seems to be incorrect. He seems to claim that the end of a diagonal line is a remnant of a missing vertical line.
http://texasdarlin.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/map_r02_c041.jpg
They are not annonymous many people know who they are, and if you read the article and saw the proof then you know it is a fake document. Besides that, fake or not, Obamaosama has yet to prove he is eligible to run for office of President and it is up to him to prove. As I said I don’t think you have good reading comprehension skills. From the way you talk, here and on other threads, trying to discourage any investigation into Obama’s background I would think you want to get him elected. I hope all the states ask this a**hat of a candidate for proof of his eligibility to run and even if only half of them find him not eligible, that will take his butt out of the race. Here’s hoping!
"Techdude" claims to have susbstantial credentials and his analysis shows he has significant command of the subject. His analysis also makes good sense and his proof is verifiable by yourself, or anyone else, by following the instructions he provides for you to scrutinize the document as is now on the Obama website.
His analysis article is at here
As to the illogicality of why he needs a forgery, there is a reasonable explanation offered (but not verified) that he was indeed born in Hawaii, but, when his step father and mother wanted to move to Indonesia, they had his original birth certificate sealed and a new one issued in the name of Soetoro (his step father's name), and listing him as a Muslim. This was done to make the move to Indonesia possible.
However, where he was born becomes moot if it is proven that he was party to the forgery of his birth certificate, lied to the American people and concealed his past from them.
If all that is true he isn't fit for public service as dog catcher, so it doesn't matter where he was born or what his religion is/was.
There isn't any evidence of any nature I know of that he was born in Hawaii--nothing; zip. No birth certificate; no hospital; no doctors.
A bunch of published news reports (the campaign is out busily scrubbing) of interviews with Sarah and two of his half siblings that they were present when he was born in Kenya; the Wayne Madsen update that records of his birth in Kenya have been found (and are now circulating in DC). The missionaries who were returning from Kenya in July 1961 when Stanley Ann was bumped off the flight because of her advanced pregnancy.
BOAC flight schedules for July and August of 1961 are posted on the main thread--the return to the Western US from British Africa in 1961 was from Nairobi through Glaskow to Vancouver BC; connecting in Seattle to Honolulu. The Susan Blake interview was still up last time I looked putting Stanley Ann on Mercer Island in Seattle at a point she still hadn't learned to change diapers which would be early August 1961. Looks like a stopover by Stanley Ann and baby Obama on the way from Kenya to Honolulu to me.
Only argument against is a birth certificate that is a clear fraud.
Didn't you just sign on to Free Republic a couple of days ago?
