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Document forensics expert: Obama "birth certificate" a "horrible forgery"
Israel Insider ^ | July 25, 2008 | Israel Insider staff

Posted on 07/25/2008 10:53:48 AM PDT by American in Israel

Barack Obama may be on a world tour surrounded by a fawning media, but Sunday an expert in electronic document forensics released a detailed report on the purported birth certificate -- actually a "Certification of Live Birth" or COLB -- claimed as genuine by his campaign. The expert concludes with 100% certainty that it is a crudely forged fake: "a horribly forgery," according to the analysis published on the popular right-wing Atlas Shrugs blog.

The purported Certification of Live Birth published by the Daily Kos left wing blog and claimed as genuine by the Obama campaign features a security border that differs dramatically from security borders on COLB documents before and after the one supposedly printed out for Obama in 2007.

The purported birth certificate was published by the left wing Daily Kos blog on June 12 in response to unconfirmed reports that Obama was not in fact born in the United States (Canada and Kenya were suggested as the possible locations of his actual birth). Since he would in that case not be a natural born US citizen (his mother was not present in the US sufficiently long as an adult to pass American citizenship on to him automatically), he would not be eligible to be president.

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The latest examinaton of the purported documents is by far the most detailed and technically sophisticated to date.

Atlas Shrugs publisher Pamela Geller reports that the expert analyst, who goes by the screen name "Techdude", is "an active member of the Association of Certified Fraud Examiners, American College of Forensic Examiners, The International Society of Forensic Computer Examiners, International Information Systems Forensics Association -- the list goes on.

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KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; colbaquiddic; constitution; demlies; election; forgery; kos; obama; obamatruthfile
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To: AmericaUnited
The announcement does look funny to me though.


41 posted on 07/25/2008 12:17:57 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Liberty1970
My understanding is his mother was a US citizen, and that it doesn’t matter how long you are in the US if you are a US citizen. She could have just gotten back from a vacation to Moscow for all it mattered. I also recall that someone here on FR found his birth announcement in a Hawaiian newspaper, so I’m afraid all this B.C. fraud hype is much ado about nothing.

Your understanding is wrong. And enough has been written on this subject on Free Republic over the last three weeks that it is inexcusable for you to post something like this without having looked at the prior commentary.

8 USCA Sec. 1401(g) provides that a person, who is born outside the US to a parent who is a U S Citizen, married to a parent who is an alien (not a US Citizen); becomes a U S Citizen only if his U S Citizen parent has resided in the U S for ten years prior to his birth of which five of such years were after the age of 16.

Obama, if born in Kenya, flunks because his mother was only 18 when he was born and thus could not by definition have met the five year test.

The statute was amended in November, 1986 to provide that for persons born after November 14, 1986, the five year period becomes two years however since Obama was born in August of 1961, he does not qualify under the amendment either.

Bottom line is if he was born in Kenya, he is neither a U S Citizen nor eligible to hold the office of President of the United States.

42 posted on 07/25/2008 12:22:07 PM PDT by David (...)
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To: American in Israel

The dems seem to like forging documents in order to steal the presidency.


43 posted on 07/25/2008 12:28:19 PM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (liberalism = serious mental deficiency)
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To: AmericaUnited
“I also recall that someone here on FR found his birth announcement in a Hawaiian newspaper”

An announcement of the birth of a son to Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama was published in a local Hawaii paper on August 13, 1961 under Vital Statistics. The only information provided was a street address. No hospital or other place of birth was identified.

It would be helpful if someone could examine the Hawaii newspapers for the period from July 25, 1961 to August 15, 1961 to see if there is a publication, either under State Vital Statistics or under a news Vital Statistics report, of Obama's birth in this period. With particularity, is there any information other than a street address and the name of the parents as Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama published?

The Hawaii newspapers are in fiche at many public libraries in major cities in the US.

Other information required is Marriage data in the period between December 26, 1960 and April 1, 1961 for a marriage of Barack H. Obama and Stanley Ann Dunham. If someone is looking at fiche copies of Hawaii papers, please look for that also.

44 posted on 07/25/2008 12:29:42 PM PDT by David (...)
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To: David

HI also required written permission for children under 18 to marry.


45 posted on 07/25/2008 12:37:24 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: American in Israel

46 posted on 07/25/2008 12:38:29 PM PDT by lieutenant columbo
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To: AmericaUnited

It’s on TexasDarlin’s website. She found it. Though she is no freeper, rather a hillary supporter.


47 posted on 07/25/2008 12:38:41 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: American in Israel
All this really shows is that a COLB that was put up by someone on KOS was a forgery.

KOS isn't exactly a place to go for reliable information.

It's more likely that some idiot that though they were helping Obama made this forgery, rather than it coming from Obama.

If there were credible claims that Obama isn't a natural born citizen, why would he use KOS to respond to them? The forgery is almost certainly the work of the third party individual.

Obama wouldn't have trouble getting a much, much better forgery done if he needs a forged document.

48 posted on 07/25/2008 12:40:34 PM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: untrained skeptic

This was also posted on Obama’s campaign site.


49 posted on 07/25/2008 12:41:58 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: David

I just read the link provided by Buckhead in #34. Some very facinating comments thoughts. Interesting theory related to Obama being born on a ship in international waters.


50 posted on 07/25/2008 12:44:10 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: pissant

That’s a facinating thread. Indonesian citizenship? Indonesian adoption? Birth at sea in international waters?


51 posted on 07/25/2008 12:48:54 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: American in Israel

Cross linking:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2040486/posts
Blogger admits Hawaii birth certificate forgery, subverting Obama claims (Uh-oh)


52 posted on 07/25/2008 12:50:08 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Calpernia
HI also required written permission for children under 18 to marry.

Notwithstanding the purported allegation under oath in the divorce papers, I have never believed they were married in Hawaii. Until proven wrong, I am going to speculate that they were married in Kenya.

But, like the birth, the negative allegation that there is no report of a marriage in Hawaii would only stand up until someone finds a Vital Statistics report or other news local vitals report.

53 posted on 07/25/2008 12:51:44 PM PDT by David (...)
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To: Buckhead; AmericaUnited
First place, notwithstanding TD's proposition that the data comes from the hospitals, I am unwilling to accept the news report at face until I can see what is in fact behind it.

If it was in fact a hospital, identify it. Which one? Where? When? Who was the doctor? All this stuff should be in the hands of the Health Department in Hawaii and sooner or later we are likely to get our hands on it.

What is the authority for Texas D's statement that the data comes from the hospitals? Can you get someone from Department of Health to say this particular information came from a Hospital? Even if they aren't willing to say which one?

54 posted on 07/25/2008 12:58:12 PM PDT by David (...)
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To: longtermmemmory
Is this a so what?

The what is.. WHY? Why is the campaign saying this obvious forgery is the real deal? What gives with all of this man's records being gone or lost? What is being hidden?

Couple this with reports that the Campaign staff is actively trying to hide details of Obama's past and burning reporters who ask "Too many questions" then you have something rotten that must be aired before November, not after.

This is so stupid, that its frustrating. McCain when idiots made the same deal about his citizenship shut them up with a copy of his actual Birth Certificate. End of story, speculation and game.. move on.. but not Obama who hides his Masters Thesis, His Birth Certificate, His whole Legislative record from Illinois, its breath taking how much is simply gone. And the press isn't screaming at the top of their lungs.

But they won't then we must. Thats what.

55 posted on 07/25/2008 1:10:07 PM PDT by dalight
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To: David
I've always questioned why Obama’s BC says “Date FILED by Register” and all other known valid ones say “Date ACCEPTED by State Registrar”. In the TD thread, someone speculated that if Obama was born a a ship in international waters and the ship cabled the birth in, that could explain this issue and also why no hospital listed.
57 posted on 07/25/2008 1:15:00 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: American in Israel

read later


58 posted on 07/25/2008 1:20:51 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: David; Liberty1970
Bottom line is if he was born in Kenya, he is neither a U S Citizen nor eligible to hold the office of President of the United States.

If he isn't a citizen of the US, then he is ineligible to be a US Senator.

59 posted on 07/25/2008 1:36:49 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Drill Here. Drill Now. Pay Less.)
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To: Paleo Conservative
If he isn't a citizen of the US, then he is ineligible to be a US Senator.

If he isn't a citizen of the US, then is he ELIGIBLE for free room and board (jail time) for fraud.

60 posted on 07/25/2008 2:07:00 PM PDT by m4629
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