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Document forensics expert: Obama "birth certificate" a "horrible forgery"
Israel Insider ^ | July 25, 2008 | Israel Insider staff

Posted on 07/25/2008 10:53:48 AM PDT by American in Israel

Barack Obama may be on a world tour surrounded by a fawning media, but Sunday an expert in electronic document forensics released a detailed report on the purported birth certificate -- actually a "Certification of Live Birth" or COLB -- claimed as genuine by his campaign. The expert concludes with 100% certainty that it is a crudely forged fake: "a horribly forgery," according to the analysis published on the popular right-wing Atlas Shrugs blog.

The purported Certification of Live Birth published by the Daily Kos left wing blog and claimed as genuine by the Obama campaign features a security border that differs dramatically from security borders on COLB documents before and after the one supposedly printed out for Obama in 2007.

The purported birth certificate was published by the left wing Daily Kos blog on June 12 in response to unconfirmed reports that Obama was not in fact born in the United States (Canada and Kenya were suggested as the possible locations of his actual birth). Since he would in that case not be a natural born US citizen (his mother was not present in the US sufficiently long as an adult to pass American citizenship on to him automatically), he would not be eligible to be president.

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The latest examinaton of the purported documents is by far the most detailed and technically sophisticated to date.

Atlas Shrugs publisher Pamela Geller reports that the expert analyst, who goes by the screen name "Techdude", is "an active member of the Association of Certified Fraud Examiners, American College of Forensic Examiners, The International Society of Forensic Computer Examiners, International Information Systems Forensics Association -- the list goes on.

(Excerpt) Read more at web.israelinsider.com ...


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KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; colbaquiddic; constitution; demlies; election; forgery; kos; obama; obamatruthfile
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To: zerosix

I agree. I’m tired of getting burned by the tinfoil crowd our cadre of “conservative” websites whose only goal is to increase hits and subscriptions (note: follow the money).


21 posted on 07/25/2008 11:13:33 AM PDT by Bob J ("For every 1000 men hacking at the branches of evil, one is striking at it's root.")
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To: American in Israel

ok so what does this mean?

was he NOT born in the USA? Was he not born in Hawaii?

Is this a so what?


22 posted on 07/25/2008 11:16:56 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: American in Israel

If the Obamanation is disqualified, Hitlery wins the Democrat nomination by default.

If that happens, she chews up McCain and spits him out.

Obama will be easier for us beat and the changing polls reflect that.


23 posted on 07/25/2008 11:17:04 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick
There have been multiple threads on the subject of the (forged Birth Certificate.) Edwards tryst in LA.

So far no MSM have touched the story, that I know of...

Does lack of coverage imply falsity of the issue, or simply more "in-the-tank" for the protected parties?

24 posted on 07/25/2008 11:18:02 AM PDT by muffaletaman
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To: brownsfan

Yes BUT a federal lawsuit prohibiting a state from putting his name on the ballot because he is not a natural born citizen would force his campaign to spend time and money defending his right to be on the ballot.


25 posted on 07/25/2008 11:18:57 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Bob J
This statement is in reference to children born abroad. At the time of Obama’s birth, one of the parents had to be a legal adult, residing in the US for at least 5 years prior to the birth of the child.
26 posted on 07/25/2008 11:23:58 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: taxcontrol

My understanding is his mother was a US citizen, and that it doesn’t matter how long you are in the US if you are a US citizen. She could have just gotten back from a vacation to Moscow for all it mattered. I also recall that someone here on FR found his birth announcement in a Hawaiian newspaper, so I’m afraid all this B.C. fraud hype is much ado about nothing.


27 posted on 07/25/2008 11:30:50 AM PDT by Liberty1970
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To: muffaletaman
I do not know if it is true or not, I suspect if it were true that Hillary would have already done something about it to get the nomination....
28 posted on 07/25/2008 11:31:54 AM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (Some days it is not worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

Indeed it is a fake, just like the man himself.


29 posted on 07/25/2008 11:33:35 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: ZULU
If the Obamanation is disqualified, Hitlery wins the Democrat nomination by default. If that happens, she chews up McCain and spits him out.

That is just pure garbage! If Obama gets screwed from the nomination, blacks and Obama worshipers will sit out the election and Hitlery can not win.

30 posted on 07/25/2008 11:44:12 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Liberty1970; pissant

“I also recall that someone here on FR found his birth announcement in a Hawaiian newspaper”

I have read almost all of these threads and have never seen that.


31 posted on 07/25/2008 11:45:58 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: American in Israel

I am getting so freakin’ tired of the blown up close-ups of the crap on the internet. It means nothing - it has been a proven forgery - no argument. A side-show would be a discussion on the forgery, but that is all that it is - a circus side show. It has NOTHING TO DO with the original 1961 (pre-laser-printer, pre-computer database) actual birth certificate as referenced in Barry’s own book. Where is THAT one?!?! It is the only one that matters.


32 posted on 07/25/2008 11:46:05 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: American in Israel

Good Luck getting this out. AND WATCH YOUR BACK!!!!


33 posted on 07/25/2008 11:48:24 AM PDT by Texas4ever (Anything off the dollar menu :))
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To: AmericaUnited

Try here.

http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/07/23/obama-was-born-in-hawaii-wrong-can-of-worms/


34 posted on 07/25/2008 11:51:07 AM PDT by Buckhead
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To: brownsfan

Unfortunately you are probably correct. Now if this was John McCain the story would certainly get aired.


35 posted on 07/25/2008 11:51:17 AM PDT by Sunshine Sister
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To: Sunshine Sister

>>>Now if this was John McCain the story would certainly get aired.

Well, there is this:

Why Senator John McCain Cannot Be President: Eleven Months and a Hundred Yards Short of Citizenship

Abstract:
Senator McCain was born in 1936 in the Canal Zone to U.S. citizen parents. The Canal Zone was territory controlled by the United States, but it was not incorporated into the Union. As requested by Senator McCain’s campaign, distinguished constitutional lawyers Laurence Tribe and Theodore Olson examined the law and issued a detailed opinion offering two reasons that Senator McCain was a natural born citizen. Neither is sound under current law. The Tribe-Olson Opinion suggests that the Canal Zone, then under exclusive U.S. jurisdiction, may have been covered by the Fourteenth Amendment’s grant of citizenship to “all persons born . . . in the United States.” However, in the Insular Cases, the Supreme Court held that “unincorporated territories” were not part of the United States for constitutional purposes. Accordingly, many decisions hold that persons born in unincorporated territories are not Fourteenth Amendment citizens. The Tribe-Olson Opinion also suggests that Senator McCain obtained citizenship by statute. However, the only statute in effect in 1936 did not cover the Canal Zone. Recognizing the gap, in 1937, Congress passed a citizenship law applicable only to the Canal Zone, granting Senator McCain citizenship, but eleven months too late for him to be a citizen at birth. Because Senator John McCain was not a citizen at birth, he is not a “natural born Citizen” and thus is not “eligible to the Office of President” under the Constitution.


36 posted on 07/25/2008 11:57:27 AM PDT by NC28203
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To: Buckhead

Wow! That is very interesting.


37 posted on 07/25/2008 12:08:53 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: onedoug

Wait till the convention and she is waving the original around like she is swatting flies.


38 posted on 07/25/2008 12:09:38 PM PDT by lakeman
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To: AmericaUnited
*The birth announcement was tracked down by Lori Starfelt, the producer of a documentary that PUMA is working on. READ the comments below for in-depth explanations from Lori about the announcement.

Rut roh :) Think about this people... You know Bill Clinton has people deep in the intelligence agencies who can do ALL of the legwork and fact finding in this matter.

39 posted on 07/25/2008 12:14:20 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: American in Israel

>>>I wish this issue was more in the front page news in America than in Israel.

Seems the Mods don’t even consider it front page news.


40 posted on 07/25/2008 12:14:59 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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