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Roman Catholics for Obama '08
Catholic World Report ^ | June 2008 | Paul Kengor

Posted on 07/18/2008 9:19:41 AM PDT by Ebenezer

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1 posted on 07/18/2008 9:28:10 AM PDT by Ebenezer
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To: lsucat; Teófilo; NYer; Salvation; Nihil Obstat; mileschristi; bornacatholic; Mrs. Don-o; narses

Faith of Our Fathers ping


2 posted on 07/18/2008 9:29:04 AM PDT by Ebenezer (Strength and Honor!)
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To: rrstar96

If you remotely belive in the Catholic Faith and what it teaches about life, there is absolutely no way you can support abortion in any way shape or form.

Those that call themselves pro-abortion Catholics, are deluding themselves.


3 posted on 07/18/2008 9:30:59 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay
Those that call themselves pro-abortion Catholics, are deluding themselves.

There are a lot of self-deluded Catholics, then.

4 posted on 07/18/2008 9:32:50 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: rrstar96

May God grant us the clarity to see politicians aren’t responsible for abortion: women are.


5 posted on 07/18/2008 9:33:47 AM PDT by papertyger (Life is like a turtle on a fence post...)
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To: rrstar96

“In various ways, Sen. Barack Obama and I may disagree on aspects of these important fundamentals, but I am convinced, based upon his public pronouncements and his personal writing, that on each of these questions he is not closed to understanding opposing points of views and, as best as is humanly possible, he will respect and accommodate them.”

Wonderful.

Puddin’ Head is “open” to “understanding” opposing viewpoints, and “respects” and “accomodates” them.

What the hell could possibly be more important than those empty, feel-good platitudes.

The baby still is murdered.


6 posted on 07/18/2008 9:33:59 AM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: rrstar96
Never mind Catholic...The idea that killing a baby is some kind of "right"...is wrong.

There is no difference in killing a one year old and a baby in the womb...except age.

7 posted on 07/18/2008 9:35:32 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (I'm planting corn...Have to feed my car...)
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To: rrstar96

They view their RC affiliation as political rather than one of Faith.


8 posted on 07/18/2008 9:35:40 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: rrstar96
Who are these Catholics?

At best, apostates.

9 posted on 07/18/2008 9:40:04 AM PDT by tbpiper (NObama '08 - Unfit in any color)
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To: HamiltonJay
"Those that call themselves pro-abortion Catholics, are deluding themselves."

I'll go you one further on that: Anyone who claims to be a pro-abortion Christian (of any denomination) is deluding him/herself.

10 posted on 07/18/2008 9:40:24 AM PDT by Pablo64 (What is popular is not always right. What is right is not always popular.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

All Protestants should be pro-life as well...at least those that proclaim the veracity of the Bible.

“They view their RC affiliation as political rather than one of Faith.”

...or as Al Gore put it, “My faith tradition...”


11 posted on 07/18/2008 9:40:57 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: rrstar96
I was hoping to find something like this...
'This website is not affiliated with the campaign of Barack Obama or with the Roman Catholic Church.'
It's at the bottom of the web page
12 posted on 07/18/2008 9:41:18 AM PDT by Condor51 (I have guns in my nightstand because a Cop won't fit)
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To: rrstar96

What next, Jews for Hitler?


13 posted on 07/18/2008 9:41:46 AM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: papertyger

Still takes two to tango.


14 posted on 07/18/2008 9:41:49 AM PDT by WakeUpAndVote (I like, pork.)
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To: rrstar96

these children who are aborted at this stage are either handicapped or suspected of being handicapped. This is the largely ignored variable in the discussion of partial birth or near full term abortions. Men and women of goodwill have to join the effort to save these children,”first they came for the disabled....then they came for me”.


15 posted on 07/18/2008 9:44:10 AM PDT by lmc12
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To: WakeUpAndVote
Still takes two to tango.

"Tango" isn't the issue; abortion is the issue, and no one but a woman can exercise that option.

16 posted on 07/18/2008 9:49:56 AM PDT by papertyger (Life is like a turtle on a fence post...)
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To: HamiltonJay
Those that call themselves pro-abortion Catholics, are deluding themselves.

Those that call themselves pro-abortion Catholics, are not Catholics at all. They have ex-communicated themselves. They can call themselves Catholics until blue in the face, but it will not change the fact. If they receive communion in the state of mortal sin they commit a more grievous sin, in my opinion.

17 posted on 07/18/2008 9:49:58 AM PDT by mc5cents (Show me just what Mohammd brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman)
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To: Always Right
There were some, if not outright "for" Hitler, they did the bidding of his minions. They were the kapos, the collaborators, of the camps and ghettos. And they were the most hated by their fellow Jews, because they enabled the murderers of their fathers, mothers, sisters, brothers, sons, and daughters.

Human history at it's bloodiest. It teaches us that there will always be butchers around who are willing to do the bloody bidding of their masters. Then they attempt to rationalize their killing by legal and verbal gymnastics.

So-called Catholics who support Obama and his abortion stance are stained with the same blood that is on Obama's hands. They should all be ex-communicated, if the teaching of the Church is to carry any moral import. They need to learn the hard way that they cannot serve two Masters, and they need to choose which one they will serve, Moloch (abortion), or Christ (life).

18 posted on 07/18/2008 9:52:43 AM PDT by chimera
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To: HamiltonJay

There’s a new push today to have secondary issues such “social” issues such as the laundry list above take the weight of precedence over abortion. And the whole death penalty thing is bunk. The Church is NOT against the death penalty when correctly applied.


19 posted on 07/18/2008 9:58:01 AM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: Sacajaweau
There is no difference in killing a one year old and a baby in the womb...except age.

Indeed, radicals on the left believe that the difference in age inst really important, only the level of convenience or lack thereof represented by a baby. As evidence, I cite Princeton University Professor of Ethics Peter Singer (from his own website):

Newborn human babies have no sense of their own existence over time. So killing a newborn baby is never equivalent to killing a person, that is, a being who wants to go on living. That doesn’t mean that it is not almost always a terrible thing to do. It is, but that is because most infants are loved and cherished by their parents, and to kill an infant is usually to do a great wrong to its parents.

In the words of another great intellectual of our age, Barrack Obama:

But it should also include -- it should also include other, you know, information about contraception because, look, I've got two daughters. 9 years old and 6 years old. I am going to teach them first of all about values and morals. But if they make a mistake, I don't want them punished with a baby.

20 posted on 07/18/2008 9:59:18 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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