Posted on 06/28/2008 7:02:45 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
Terrorists linked to Al-Qaeda may be planning to buy former NHS ambulances and police cars to mount suicide bomb attacks in Britain, MI5 has warned.
They may import a tactic already used in Iraq and Israel, according to a report by MI5s Joint Terrorism Analysis Centre to chief constables.
In a statement to The Sunday Times, the Association of Chief Police Officers also warned of the risk of such an attack. It said ministers must legislate to stop the sale of such vehicles.
Its move has been backed by Lord Carlile of Berriew, the governments terrorism watchdog. He said he feared terrorists could exploit a loophole which did not allow police sufficient powers to stop and search the drivers of suspicious vehicles.
A Whitehall security official said that while there was evidence that Al-Qaeda had adopted the terrorist tactic in the Middle East, there was no specific intelligence of such a plot in Britain.
Every year dozens of police cars, ambulances and fire engines are sold. Some are fully marked and can be bought for as little as £1,500.
Counter-terrorism officials at the Home Office have now written to eBay, the internet auctioneer, asking it to stop selling emergency service vehicles, equipment and uniforms. However, eBay has said it will only self-regulate if a new law is passed.
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(kicking self for not saving the thread)... Anyone else remember the heat some of us took for defending the decision to delay an ambulance for a search at the Canadian border a several months ago?
Anglo-Britons are not only disarmed, but they are also surrounded by hostile Mohammedans who will use emergency vehicles to destroy their civilian polulation.
Bye bye, United Kingdom.
It was nice knowing you.
The Brits should round up the muzzies and "dispatch" them.
So now they want ambulance and sedan control.
Did it every occur to these geniuses that the Mooselimbs could just by a similar vehicle and then paint it to resemble a police or EMT vehicle? Or a bread truck, or other local delivery vehicle, for that matter.
Just as with gun control, going after the inanimate object *never* works.
“Bye bye, United Kingdom.”
They seem anxious to disprove the quote, “There will always be an England.”
Proving once again that Islam is a religion of peace.
> Anglo-Britons are not only disarmed, but they are also surrounded by hostile Mohammedans who will use emergency vehicles to destroy their civilian polulation.
Raises an interesting point: can this happen in America? If not, why not?
It was a fire truck enroute to save some unfortunate American’s property.
A couple of hundred years of co-operation and friendship out the door because of some tiny heathen threat. The border is still wide open between our nations for literally THOUSANDS of miles. How many problems come from the North?
There has been exactly ONE time a terrorist attempted infitration from Canada with immediate ill-will, and he was caught ( ref: Ahmed Ressam).
You’d rather let your neighbour’s home burn down than let firetrucks through to help, on the extremely remote chance that it *might* not be a legitimate firetruck? I pity your community.
Actually the incident I was referring to was an ambulance but I believe there was a firetruck incident as well. A couple of hundred years of co-operation and friendship out the door because of some tiny heathen threat.
We saw what that "tiny" threat could do once in the country. Cooperation-sure, simply waiving a vehicle through because its got flashing lights? Not a smart idea IMHO.
"How many problems come from the North?"
"According to an August 2002 report of the Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS), " with the possible exception of the United States, there are more international terrorist organizations active in Canada than anywhere in the world."
"In December 1999, Algerian terrorist Ahmed Ressam was caught trying to cross the Canadian-American border at Port Angeles, Washington, with explosives in his car. Ressam belonged to a Montreal-based terrorist cell thought to be linked to both the Algerian terrorist group Armed Islamic Group (GIA) and Al Qaeda. The cell was apparently planning a millennium terror attack at Los Angeles International Airport. In April 2001 Ressam was convicted in Los Angeles of conspiracy to commit terrorism, document fraud and possession of deadly explosives."
Link (and additional info on terrorist plot with Canadian connections)
There has been exactly ONE time a terrorist attempted infitration from Canada with immediate ill-will, and he was caught ( ref: Ahmed Ressam).
Caught because he was inspected more closely and asked for further identification. I'm not sure how the lack of additional captures means there have been no other infiltrations. By that reasoning there must be only one fish in the river today because thats all I caught.
Youd rather let your neighbours home burn down than let firetrucks through to help, on the extremely remote chance that it *might* not be a legitimate firetruck? I pity your community.
I guess I missed where I was calling for firetrucks to not be allowed through. The fact is emergency vehicles are being used on our southern border to smuggle people across.
"agents observed an ambulance with official markings and emergency equipment traveling northbound on Buckman Springs Road. When agents attempted to verify the legitimacy of the ambulance, it was discovered that the license plate did not match the registration. Agents found twenty-two undocumented Mexican migrants in the vehicle, including the driver." Link
Emergency vehicles are also being used by terrorists in other countries. Some good pics here of explosives being removed from an ambulance
Now, in this article, MI5 is warning it could happen in Britain. The bad guys know how people, like yourself, feel about emergency vehicles-that stopping them and inspecting them is somehow out of bounds-thats EXACTLY why they use them...
Let’s see, you use the very example I did to try and refute my assertion that the *threat* from the NORTHERN border is insignificant at best, and then throw a bunch of unrelated infiltration data from your SOUTHERN border to try and re-enforce your wholly unsubstantiated claim that Canada is a threat to the safety and integrity of North America.
I stand by my previous assertion of PITY for your community. You clearly don’t have a clue as to who your friends are, or who has a common goal for security for OUR continent and its peaceful people.
Actually I was answering your question of ""How many problems come from the North?" The link I provided listed that captured bomber and much information about the large number of terrorists groups with members in Canada. I apologize for fully answering your question and will do my best to leave out important information in the future.
"and then throw a bunch of unrelated infiltration data from your SOUTHERN border" I mentioned a specific example(of an emergency vehicle being used to avoid the attention of authorities) from the southern border. Not sure how that equates to "a bunch of unrelated infiltration data".
"to try and re-enforce your wholly unsubstantiated claim that Canada is a threat to the safety and integrity of North America."
You should be working at the border. You are so good at finding things (even when they are not there-lol) What claim did I make that Canada "is a threat to the safety and integrity of North America."??? Are you referring to the comment by the Canadian Security Intelligence Service that "with the possible exception of the United States, there are more international terrorist organizations active in Canada than anywhere in the world."? Were they wrong?
I stand by my previous assertion of PITY for your community.
Because you really believe it is my intent to not allow firetrucks to cross the border? I pity your ability to understand my point.
"You clearly dont have a clue as to who your friends are or who has a common goal for security for OUR continent and its peaceful people
"who" indeed. Finding out "who" or "what" is in those emergency vehicles is exactly the point.
CNN.com: "FEMALE BOMBER KILLS 16 NEAR GOVERNMENT COMPLEX" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "More than 20 female suicide bombers have carried out attacks in Iraq this year, a number much higher than in previous years. According to the U.S. military, women carried out eight bombings in 2007. Authorities said that al Qaeda in Iraq is recruiting women and that increasing numbers of women are volunteering for missions.") (Updated June 22, 2008, 1927 GMT)
ADNKRONOS.com (AKI): Baghdad - "IRAQ: CHILD TERRORISTS BEHIND GROWING NUMBER OF ATTACKS" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "The Iraqi army has noted a rise in attacks carried out by children or women from 2007 to 2008. In the last year they are believed to have carried out at least 16 suicide attacks and 200 other bomb attacks.") (June 13, 2008)
KUNA.net.kw: Islamabad - "POLICE IN ISLAMABAD ARRESTS OVER 75 SUSPECTS AFTER REPORTS OF SUICIDE" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "Syed Kalim Imam, Senior Superintendent Police (SSP), while talking to media said that security has been given a red alert and an operation has been launched to arrest eight teenaged suicide bombers. He added that so far more than 75 suspects have been arrested and that the operation was still underway.") (March 23, 2008, 5:56 pm)
MNF-IRAQ.com - Release No. 20080223-05: Mosul, Iraq - "COALITION FORCES DISCOVER DISGUISED TRUCK-BOMB" (PRESS RELEASE SNIPPET: "Coalition forces discovered a vehicle-borne improvised explosive device disguised as a Red Crescent food relief truck in southeastern Mosul Feb. 15. The truck was labeled with hospital markings but contained eight 55-gallon drums with more than 5,000 pounds of unknown bulk explosives.") (February 23, 2008)
DAWN.com (Peshawar, December 26, 2007): "YOUTH WITH DYNAMITE HELD NEAR RALLY VENUE" by Ali Hazrat Bacha (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "Reliable sources said the 19-year-old suspect, who identified himself as Raham Islam of Matani, had dynamite strapped to his body and he was trying to enter the stadium when he was stopped by security personnel. The suspect said that he had come here from a wedding party and could not find time to dispose of the explosive material.") (December 27, 2007) (Read More...)
THE MEMRI BLOG.org ("Sources: Hurriyet, Yeni Safak, Turkey, December 25, 2007"): Turkey - "SUBWAY BOMBER ARRESTED IN ISTANBUL" (BLOG ENTRY SNIPPET: "Turkish media reported on the arrest in Istanbul of a PKK operative before he caused bloodshed. The terrorist was carrying with him 3.2 kg of A-4 plastic explosives when the police caught him yesterday, buying a ticket in an Istanbul subway station.") (December 25, 2007) (Read More...)
WASHINGTON TIMES.com (AP): Istanbul - "POLICE IN ISTANBUL FOIL BOMB-ATTACK PLOT" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "Police thwarted a bomb attack in Istanbul yesterday, arresting a 25-year-old man with explosives in his backpack outside a subway station, the city's governor said.") (December 25, 2007) (Read More...)
DAWN.com (Peshawar, December 26, 2007): "YOUTH WITH DYNAMITE HELD NEAR RALLY VENUE" by Ali Hazrat Bacha (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "Reliable sources said the 19-year-old suspect, who identified himself as Raham Islam of Matani, had dynamite strapped to his body and he was trying to enter the stadium when he was stopped by security personnel. The suspect said that he had come here from a wedding party and could not find time to dispose of the explosive material.") (December 27, 2007)
MNF-IRAQ.com - Release No. 20071116-02: Cob Speicher, Iraq - "SUICIDE CAR BOMB KILLS 2 CHILDREN, DAMAGES SCHOOL" (PRESS RELEASE SNIPPET: "A suicide car bomb attack killed two children, injured 11 more, and damaged an Iraqi school Nov. 15 in the city of Kirkuk. Additionally, the suicide car bomb killed an Iraqi teacher, two Iraqi policemen, and an unidentified Iraqi citizen.") (November 16, 2007)
TERRORISM-INFO.org.il - INTELLIGENCE AND TERRORISM INFORMATION CENTER at the Israel Intelligence Heritage & Commemoration Center (IICC): SNIPPET: "Osama Hamdan, the Hamas representative in Lebanon, told Iranian television that suicide bombing attacks against Israel were justified, especially attacks in buses. He rejected the historical Jewish connection to the Land of Israel and stated that Hamas' avowed intention was to wipe Israel off the face of the map." (August 21, 2007)
BBC NEWS: "IRAQI SUICIDE BOMBING 'KILLS 15'" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "In another incident, Iraqi police said they shot dead a suspected suicide bomber as she tried to detonate her bomb at a Baghdad recruitment centre. The shots triggered her explosive belt, police said. Three police recruits received minor wounds from the explosion. The woman died.") (Last updated June 5, 2007, 17:34 GMT, 18:34 UK)
WTOP.com (AP): London - "STUDY SAYS IRAN TEXTBOOKS URGE MARTYRDOM" by Thomas Wagner, AP (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "Textbooks used in Iran's schools are instilling students with hatred toward the West, especially the United States, and urging them to become "martyrs" in a global holy war against countries perceived to be enemies of Islam, a new study says. An Iranian human rights activist, Ghazal Omid, praised the findings, saying they prove hard-liners in Iran are using the books to turn children into "ticking bombs."") (February 8, 2007, 2:09 pm)
MEMRI.org - Special Dispatch Series - No. 1111: Palestinian Legislative Council Member 'Umm Nidal' on Saudi Iqra TV: A Muslim Mother Should Raise Her Children for Jihad Interviewer Iqra TV Director-General Critical of Arab TV Channels That Don't Support Martyrdom Operations" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "The following are excerpts from an interview with Palestinian Legislative Council member "Umm Nidal" Farhat, aired on Saudi Iqra TV, on February 19, 2006. TO VIEW THIS CLIP, VISIT: http://www.memritv.org/search.asp?ACT=S9&P1=1066" (March 10, 2006)
FRONTPAGE MAGAZINE.com: "CONVERTS TO TERROR" by Daniel Pipes (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "Islamist terror organizations particularly prize converts. They know the local culture and blend in.") (December 6, 2005)
MEMRI.org - Special Dispatch Series No. 1032: "REFORMIST SAUDI AUTHOR: RELIGIOUS CASSETTES ADVOCATED JIHAD BY EMPHASIZING MARTYR'S SEXUAL REWARDS" (November 23, 2005)
MEMRI.org - Special Dispatch Series - No. 983: "COMMANDER OF HAMAS MILITARY WING WOMEN'S UNIT: 'Our Members Yearn for Martyrdom'" (September 9, 2005)
CORRIERE.IT/english: Turin - "TURIN IMAM DEPORTED -- "HE'S DANGEROUS" Accused of praising Bin Laden. Como-based Tunisian activist also expelled." (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "The ten children taking part in the ring-o'-roses protest beneath the market clock in Porta Palazzo were all wearing suicide bomber belts. The year was 1997, and that was the first time Bouriqi Bouchta, whose idea it was, attracted Italys attention.") (September 7, 2005)
MEMRITV.org/Transcript - Video Clip No. 838 - 8/31/2005: " 8/31/2005 Clip No. 838: "Sheik of Al-Azhar Muhammad Tantawi Explains on Al-Hurra TV When a Suicide Bomber Becomes a Martyr and When He Is Not" (TRANSCRIPT SNIPPET: "Following are excerpts from an interview with Sheik of Al-Azhar Muhammad Sayyed Tantawi, which aired on Al-Hurra TV on August 31, 2005")
MEMRI TV.org - Clip No. 843 - Transcript: "SAUDI IQRA TV RAISES MONEY FOR PALESTINIAN INTIFADA" (TRANSCRIPT SNIPPET: "Caption: The Saudi committee for support of the Al-Quds Intifada. Account number 98, a joint account in all Saudi banks.") (August 29, 2005)
MEMRI.org - Special Dispatch Series - No. 909: "BAHRAINI AUTHOR AND JOURNALIST: THE PROPONENTS OF THE SUICIDE IDEOLOGY HAVE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF GLOBAL COMMUNICATIONS" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "In an article that appeared in the Saudi daily Al-Yawm, titled "The Globalization of Islamic Suicide" author and journalist Sawsan Al-Sha'er wrote that the extremist Islamist groups are taking advantage of global communications to recruit suicide bombers, and predicted the spread of the suicide bomber phenomenon to Britain as well.") (May 17, 2005)
MEMRI.org - MIDDLE EAST MEDIA RESEARCH INSTITUTE Special Report - No.32: "MEMRI TV Project Special Report: Arab and Iranian TV Clips in Support of Suicide Bombing" (September 1, 2004)
JIHAD WATCH.org: "RATIONAL, EDUCATED AND PROSPEROUS: JUST YOUR AVERAGE SUICIDE BOMBER" (May 15, 2004)
SAAG.org - SOUTH ASIA ANALYSIS GROUP: "SUICIDE & SUICIDAL TERRORISM" by B. Raman (March 12, 2004)
JIHAD WATCH.org (HAARETZ): "10 SUICIDE BOMBINGS FOILED OVER PASSOVER HOLIDAY" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "One of two Tanzim activists caught at the end of March told interrogators the group that sent them had planned a series of other attacks, including one with a device to which blood infected with AIDS would be attached.") (April 13, 2004)FrontPageMagazine.com: "AFFLUENT GENOCIDE" by Robert Spencer (October 14, 2003)
WorldNetDaily.com: "HAMAS LAUNCHES WEBZINE FOR KIDS Journal praises martyrs, encourages children to follow example" by Jon Dougherty (November 5, 2002)
NEW SCIENTIST.com: "SUICIDE BOMBERS MAY SPREAD DISEASE" (July 24, 2002)
WTVT.com - FOX13 Investigative: "JIHAD FOR KIDS" (February 4, 2002)
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