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McCain: Guantanamo Ruling One of the ‘Worst Decisions’ in History
Fox News ^ | June 13, 2008 | Foxnews.com

Posted on 06/13/2008 12:09:36 PM PDT by DCRoush

John McCain said Friday that the Supreme Court ruling on Guantanamo Bay detainees is “one of the worst decisions in the history of this country.” The presumptive GOP nominee said the decision, a 5-4 ruling Thursday that determined Guantanamo detainees have the right to seek release in civilian courts, would lead to a wave of frivolous challenges. “We are now going to have the courts flooded with so-called … habeas corpus suits against the government, whether it be about the diet, whether it be about the reading material. And we are going to be bollixed up in a way that is terribly unfortunate because we need to go ahead and adjudicate these cases,” he said at a town hall meeting in New Jersey. McCain said he has worked hard to ensure the U.S. military does not torture prisoners but that the detainees at Guantanamo are still “enemy combatants.” “These are people who are not citizens. They do not and never have been given the rights that citizens in this country have,” he said. “Now, my friends, there are some bad people down there. There are some bad people.” Barack Obama released a statement Thursday saying the Supreme Court decision “ensures that we can protect our nation and bring terrorists to justice while also protecting our core values.” “The Court’s decision is a rejection of the Bush administration’s attempt to create a legal black hole at Guantanamo - yet another failed policy supported by John McCain,” he said. “This is an important step toward re-establishing our credibility as a nation committed to the rule of law and rejecting a false choice between fighting terrorism and respecting habeas corpus.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2008election; boumediene; election; election2008; electionpresident; elections; enemycombatant; enemycombatants; gitmo; judges; judiciary; mccain; rino; ruling; scotus; wot
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To: DoughtyOne

Which brings us to the main point: you could only like this suite of Presidential candidates that we currently have if you actively hate this country.


201 posted on 06/13/2008 7:27:45 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drill Here! Drill Now! Pay Less! Sign the petition at http://www.americansolutions.com/)
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To: Sunnyflorida

“I am 100% sure that in CONUS, unless you are subject to UCMJ (our troops), you get all the to file a Writ of Habeas Corpus.”

The legislation that I had cited, S.3930, [provides military commissions the jurisdiction to try any offense made punishable by this chapter (articles 904 and 906 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice) or the law of war by an alien unlawful enemy before, on, or after September 11, 2001.]

You keep making claims like ‘McCain is too stupid to know this...The really amazing thing is I don’t think McCain and some posters get it. Stupid.’ Yet you don’t even appear to be familiar with this legislation that contradicts your claims.


202 posted on 06/13/2008 7:28:10 PM PDT by death2tyrants
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To: DCRoush

Hey, everyone, do you agree with John McCain on this one? I do.

I think it was a huge mistake.


203 posted on 06/13/2008 7:32:22 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: DCRoush

Wonder how this decision will relate to illegal aliens.


204 posted on 06/13/2008 7:32:26 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (No prisoners. No mercy. Fight back or STFU!!!)
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To: Czar
When ever I come up against them they truly remind me of obamassiah supporters. No matter what you show them on their candidates positions, they still stand by that candidate with unfailing loyalty. They have blinders on.

Look at post # 100 as shining examples of what they refuse to see. Maybe it's their defensive mechanism kicking in so they can't see just what kind of a person they support. Perhaps they suffer from the Stockholm syndrome. And it's even worse if they do see and still vote for him.

There is nothing this side of heaven that would make me change my mind and vote for Mcpain - nothing.

205 posted on 06/13/2008 8:10:58 PM PDT by processing please hold ( A gov. big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have)
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To: lexusppd
Youtube clips are worthless without context and time stamps.

Right. As if that wasn't clarified in the videos.

206 posted on 06/13/2008 8:12:50 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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To: processing please hold
I swear, the Mccainiacs are becoming just about as rabid as the obamaiacs.

The same level of intellectual honesty too. None.

207 posted on 06/13/2008 8:14:00 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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To: Sunnyflorida
They don't get it or they wouldn't support him. Battered wife syndrome also comes to mind. LOL

I don't know what they are so eager to convert those of us who don't fall in line to vote for Mcpain, me and my little voting block of at least 12 won't make an iota of difference in this election.

I won't sell out my beliefs to put Mcpain in office.

208 posted on 06/13/2008 8:18:14 PM PDT by processing please hold ( A gov. big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have)
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To: lexusppd
What’s the point in showing me a FR poll?

Is that the only thing you saw in this post?

Actually I think people like you who are so rabidly against the anti Obama candidate may be “sleeper” trolls.

Apparently you can't find the abuse button on your own. Some people were just born for a nanny state.

209 posted on 06/13/2008 8:19:01 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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To: Crazieman
Boy, did I call it or what?

Well I can predict the weather too if I look out the window. lol They have a very short list of rebuttal points.


210 posted on 06/13/2008 8:27:02 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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To: death2tyrants
Isn't this the third time that the SC has sided with the prisoners at Gitmo?

Now, if you put that together with their latest ruling - what do we have?

211 posted on 06/13/2008 8:37:11 PM PDT by processing please hold ( A gov. big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have)
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To: TigersEye
The same level of intellectual honesty too. None.

I agree 100%. I just don't know what to make of them anymore. I feel like just patting them on top of their heads then send them on their way.

212 posted on 06/13/2008 8:40:27 PM PDT by processing please hold ( A gov. big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have)
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To: Sunnyflorida

Thank you for the information. No, I’m not going to dump McCain but I do need to know as much as I can. :)


213 posted on 06/13/2008 9:14:43 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: RJL

Let’s see how the Administration handles this. I know (hope) they won’t obstruct justice, but maybe they have some angles.


214 posted on 06/13/2008 9:17:08 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: processing please hold

I think that’s about the best thing to do. I’m sure it’s a traumatic stress reaction on their part so it’s hard to be very angry about it. When it comes to the WH we are glued and tattooed come next January. It’s not the end of the world but it’s a tough pill to swallow.


215 posted on 06/13/2008 9:23:34 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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To: DoughtyOne

You make good points, and provide context for this very strong individual statement that appears to be inconsistent with McCain’s stance on other related issues.


216 posted on 06/13/2008 9:29:25 PM PDT by karnage
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Bingo!


217 posted on 06/13/2008 9:30:05 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Ooo what's that terrible smell? Oh, I stepped in a big pile of 'lesser of two evils'. Careful...)
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To: Czar

I totally agree. Thanks Czar.


218 posted on 06/13/2008 9:31:55 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Ooo what's that terrible smell? Oh, I stepped in a big pile of 'lesser of two evils'. Careful...)
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To: TigersEye
When it comes to the WH we are glued and tattooed come next January. It’s not the end of the world but it’s a tough pill to swallow.

As many have said, no matter which one of them win - we lose.

It is a very tough pill to swallow.

219 posted on 06/13/2008 9:32:03 PM PDT by processing please hold ( A gov. big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have)
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To: karnage
WOW!
Did you see Bush's response to this ruling??

"I certainly appreciate one of the nation's three co-equal branches of government, the Supreme Court, weighing in on this important issue. However, as Commander-in-Chief I am responsible for the safety of all American citizens and I respectfully disagree with today's 5 - 4 ruling. Therefore, under my watch non-citizen enemy combatants will not be given access to the American civilian court system. Thank you."

LOL, just kidding!
(Yeah, right! - - Like Bush has a spine!)

The question is: Does McCain have a spine?
I think I already know the answer....

220 posted on 06/13/2008 9:33:32 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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