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Is Obama a Citizen of the US?
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Posted on 06/10/2008 7:01:56 AM PDT by chessplayer

Why won`t Barack Obama release his birth certificate?

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1 posted on 06/10/2008 7:01:56 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer
Because his name is Barack Hussein Obama. If his birth name is Barry Dunham on the certificate, he changed it for some reason, what is that reason? If not, America will know his name is Hussein.
2 posted on 06/10/2008 7:04:13 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: chessplayer

If he weren’t we would have already known about it.

A better question might be “When did FR become the DU?”


4 posted on 06/10/2008 7:05:05 AM PDT by cripplecreek (I miss the days when only the politicians were unethical.)
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To: cripplecreek

Amen


5 posted on 06/10/2008 7:05:47 AM PDT by SengirV
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To: chessplayer

It is a simple matter to sue for release since knowing if he is a natural born US citizen is of interest to ALL US citizens.


6 posted on 06/10/2008 7:06:12 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: chessplayer
If his mother was a US citizen, then it is likely there will not be an issue. Though the laws back in the 60s were changing in this regard and had their finer points. But, if he can show that his US citizen mother had him in Hawaii (which is perhaps a point of contention) then it will not matter.

Despite all of this, his associations and positions should have nix'ed the man long ago. But it has not. That is because his ardent followers (which include the MSM and powerful politicians and lobbiests) are not swayed be logic, reason, or truth in any case. To them, regardless of his positions, his gaffes, his birth place, his past, or his associations, he is an idol.


Nothing you can say or do will convince these people otherwise...


Because I am the one they and I have been waiting for...and I am lovin' it.

Those wild eyed people represent the millions of Americans raised in the government day-care and indoctrination centers we call public schools who did not have, or would not listen to, parents and others who tried to counterweight the garbage they heard at school...who have been raised on 60 second sound bite time spans and know no better.

You have other tens of millions on the dole who will vote for him regardless of position because he promises to keep pilfering the public largess for them.

Still othes of millions will vote for him simply because he is black.

Other millions will vote for him because they know exactly who he is and what he represents and agree with his anti-American positions.

The first three are all what is termed, useful idiots, a term coined by Lenin for the dupes he got to support him.

Against this it is left to us to educate, arouse, and amass the tens of millions of Americans who understand and hold fast to the foundational principles our constitutional republic rests upon...many of them the bitter, rural Americans clinging to their guns and religion that Obama so arrogantly spoke of.

Finally, with all of this in mind, note this comparison:


A populsitic, charismatic, self-serving individual has a way of mesmerizing foolish people looking for an idol...then and now.

Barack Hussein Obama is the apex of the hate-America, domestic enemy in this country. His election as president would be the greatest coup any enemy has ever scored against this country and could easily lead to the worst, horrific disaster in our nation's history.

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

7 posted on 06/10/2008 7:06:16 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: chessplayer

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/chi-0703270151mar27,0,5157609.story?page=4

“another letter arrived in Kenya”...

he is a citizen I believe, he just does not want us to see what is on their, religion or race maybe.


8 posted on 06/10/2008 7:06:24 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (DENVER DENVER DENVER DENVER DENVER DENVER DENVER!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: normy

His birth name is Barack Hussein Mohammed Obama.


9 posted on 06/10/2008 7:06:49 AM PDT by OKSooner
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To: chessplayer

Was he born on US soil?

If not, from what I understand, he cannot run legally.


10 posted on 06/10/2008 7:06:57 AM PDT by Bon mots
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To: TornadoAlley3

their-there sorry


11 posted on 06/10/2008 7:07:24 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (DENVER DENVER DENVER DENVER DENVER DENVER DENVER!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: chessplayer
?
12 posted on 06/10/2008 7:07:33 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: chessplayer

This leads to an interesting series of questions. As age and citizenship are both constitutional requirements to become president it is not unreasonable to ask a candidate to prove their age or citizenship through a birth certificate or passport. It is not necessary for such documentation to be placed in the public domain where everyone has access to it, but to whom must they supply this proof? I am making the assumption that such proof was required in the applications to get the candidates name on the ballots in each state. Is that wrong?


13 posted on 06/10/2008 7:08:05 AM PDT by contemplator (Capitalism gets no Rock Concerts)
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To: OKSooner

His name is irrelevant because he was named after his dad. It could be embarassing though.


14 posted on 06/10/2008 7:08:56 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Bon mots
Was he born on US soil?

That's not the criteria. It is being natural born, that is if at the time of birth he was entitled to US citizenship. Having an American mother, he was. McCain wasn't born in the US either.

15 posted on 06/10/2008 7:09:20 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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I read people discussing this here at FR the other day... I would assume that the State Dept. has a copy - not that the liberals IN the State Dept. would tell us if there was a problem with his eligibility. After all, that wouldn’t go along with their liberal mindset, would it?

It would be very interesting to see a copy of Obama’s birth certificate - as it could put to rest some of the rumors that have been “dogging” him (i.e. if he has a 2nd middle name, if his father is listed on the birth certificate, etc... etc..).

I personally don’t see why his campaign wouldn’t release a copy to the media as it would save them a lot trouble regarding coming up with defensive rhetoric. The fact that they have not done this already leaves some very definite questions in the minds of the curious - like me. ;-)


16 posted on 06/10/2008 7:09:47 AM PDT by LibertyRocks (The LibertyRocks Blog - http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com & http://www.LibertyRocks.us)
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To: chessplayer; WellyP; All
Here is post #25 from another thread:

Here is a post from yesterday that shows the law as it was in 1961. It has everything to do with the fact that his Mom had not, and could not have, resided in the US for 5 years after her 16th birthday. She, like so many young women get pregnant at a very young age. She gave birth at 18.

Barack Obama is not legally a U.S. Natural-born citizen according to the law on the books at the time of his birth, which falls between “December 24, 1952 to November 13, 1986? . Presidential office requires a natural-born citizen if the child was not born to two U.S. Citizen parents, which of course is what exempts John McCain though he was born in the Panama Canal. US Law very clearly stipulates: “…If only one parent was a U.S. Citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16.” Barack Obama’s father was not a U.S. Citizen and Obama’s mother was only 18 when Obama was born, which means though she had been a U.S. Citizen for 10 years, (or citizen perhaps because of Hawai’i being a territory) the mother fails the test for being so for at least 5 years **prior to** Barack Obama’s birth, but *after* age 16. It doesn’t matter *after* . In essence, she was not old enough to qualify her son for automatic U.S. Citizenship. At most, there were only 2 years elapsed since his mother turned 16 at the time of Barack Obama’s birth when she was 18 in Hawai’i. His mother would have needed to have been 16+5= 21 years old, at the time of Barack Obama’s birth for him to have been a natural-born citizen. As aformentioned, she was a young college student at the time and was not. Barack Obama was already 3 years old at that time his mother would have needed to have waited to have him as the only U.S. Cizen parent. Obama instead should have been naturalized, but even then, that would still disqualify him from holding the office.

*** Naturalized citizens are ineligible to hold the office of President. *** Though Barack Obama was sent back to Hawaii at age 10, all the other info does not matter because his mother is the one who needed to have been a U.S. Citzen for 10 years prior to his birth on August 4, 1961, with 5 of those years being after age 16. Further, Obama may have had to have remained in the country for some time to protect any citizenship he would have had, rather than living in Indonesia. Now you can see why Obama’s aides stopped his speech about how we technically have more than 50 states, because it would have led to this discovery. This is very clear cut and a blaring violation of U.S. Election law. I think the Gov. Of California would be very insterested in knowing this if Obama were elected President without being a natural-born U.S. Citizen, and it would set precedence. Stay tuned to your TV sets because I suspect some of this information will be leaking through over the next several days…

17 posted on 06/10/2008 7:10:31 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Why don’t we get Vice President Cheney to request a copy. He can claim he needs the copy for genealogy purposes, since he’s supposed to be distantly related to him ;-)


18 posted on 06/10/2008 7:13:13 AM PDT by mass55th
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McCain was born on a Military base , and that my friend is as American as you can get.


19 posted on 06/10/2008 7:13:26 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: cripplecreek
Crippple, I have done a little research on this, and here is the reasoning:
Barack Obama is not legally a U.S. Natural-born citizen according to the law on the books at the time of his birth, which falls between "December 24, 1952 to November 13, 1986? .

Presidential office requires a natural-born citizen if the child was not born to two U.S. Citizen parents, which of course is what exempts John McCain though he was born in the Panama Canal.

US Law very clearly stipulates: "…If only one parent was a U.S. Citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16."

Barack Obama’s father was not a U.S. Citizen and Obama’s mother was only 18 when Obama was born, which means though she had been a U.S. Citizen for 10 years, (or citizen perhaps because of Hawai’i being a territory) the mother fails the test for being so for at least 5 years **prior to** Barack Obama’s birth, but *after* age 16.

It doesn’t matter *after* .

In essence, she was not old enough to qualify her son for automatic U.S. Citizenship.

At most, there were only 2 years elapsed since his mother turned 16 at the time of Barack Obama’s birth when she was 18 in Hawaii.

His mother would have needed to have been 16+5= 21 years old, at the time of Barack Obama’s birth for him to have been a natural-born citizen.

As aformentioned, she was a young college student at the time and was not. Barack Obama was already 3 years old at that time his mother would have needed to have waited to have him as the only U.S. Cizen parent.

Obama instead should have been naturalized, but even then, that would still disqualify him from holding the office.

A little further research, citing more chapter and verse in the US code, could reveal if this is accurate (which I have not done yet) as regards the legal definition of natural-born citizen at the time as stated by the US constitution. It is a technicality...and one clearly Obama would argue against and probably take all the way to the USSC.
20 posted on 06/10/2008 7:14:17 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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