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To: chessplayer

If he weren’t we would have already known about it.

A better question might be “When did FR become the DU?”


4 posted on 06/10/2008 7:05:05 AM PDT by cripplecreek (I miss the days when only the politicians were unethical.)
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To: cripplecreek

Amen


5 posted on 06/10/2008 7:05:47 AM PDT by SengirV
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To: cripplecreek
Crippple, I have done a little research on this, and here is the reasoning:
Barack Obama is not legally a U.S. Natural-born citizen according to the law on the books at the time of his birth, which falls between "December 24, 1952 to November 13, 1986? .

Presidential office requires a natural-born citizen if the child was not born to two U.S. Citizen parents, which of course is what exempts John McCain though he was born in the Panama Canal.

US Law very clearly stipulates: "…If only one parent was a U.S. Citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16."

Barack Obama’s father was not a U.S. Citizen and Obama’s mother was only 18 when Obama was born, which means though she had been a U.S. Citizen for 10 years, (or citizen perhaps because of Hawai’i being a territory) the mother fails the test for being so for at least 5 years **prior to** Barack Obama’s birth, but *after* age 16.

It doesn’t matter *after* .

In essence, she was not old enough to qualify her son for automatic U.S. Citizenship.

At most, there were only 2 years elapsed since his mother turned 16 at the time of Barack Obama’s birth when she was 18 in Hawaii.

His mother would have needed to have been 16+5= 21 years old, at the time of Barack Obama’s birth for him to have been a natural-born citizen.

As aformentioned, she was a young college student at the time and was not. Barack Obama was already 3 years old at that time his mother would have needed to have waited to have him as the only U.S. Cizen parent.

Obama instead should have been naturalized, but even then, that would still disqualify him from holding the office.

A little further research, citing more chapter and verse in the US code, could reveal if this is accurate (which I have not done yet) as regards the legal definition of natural-born citizen at the time as stated by the US constitution. It is a technicality...and one clearly Obama would argue against and probably take all the way to the USSC.
20 posted on 06/10/2008 7:14:17 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: cripplecreek

Hmmm... I would understand this comment if we weren’t discussing the presumptive Democratic nominee. How is it in your opinion, that by someone posting this discussion, we have become DU?


23 posted on 06/10/2008 7:14:44 AM PDT by LibertyRocks (The LibertyRocks Blog - http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com & http://www.LibertyRocks.us)
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To: cripplecreek

Rgr that


31 posted on 06/10/2008 7:19:21 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: cripplecreek

“A better question might be “When did FR become the DU?””

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Hey. At least this thread, isn’t bashing John McCain.

It’s a start...

Curious though, Hussein hiding his birth certificate.


80 posted on 06/10/2008 7:50:14 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (CHEVY VOLT COUNTDOWN: V minus 109 Weeks. Waiting...)
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To: cripplecreek
A better question might be “When did FR become the DU?”

What we really need are more Larry Sinclair threads (/sarc)

83 posted on 06/10/2008 7:55:14 AM PDT by gdani (I'm a firm believer in DE-evolution -- just look around........)
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To: cripplecreek

I guess NRO’s become DU, too. Because it’s their story.

No man running for President of the United States should have even a second a thought about showing his birth certificate to the American people.


174 posted on 06/10/2008 3:48:08 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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