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To: cripplecreek
Crippple, I have done a little research on this, and here is the reasoning:
Barack Obama is not legally a U.S. Natural-born citizen according to the law on the books at the time of his birth, which falls between "December 24, 1952 to November 13, 1986? .

Presidential office requires a natural-born citizen if the child was not born to two U.S. Citizen parents, which of course is what exempts John McCain though he was born in the Panama Canal.

US Law very clearly stipulates: "…If only one parent was a U.S. Citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16."

Barack Obama’s father was not a U.S. Citizen and Obama’s mother was only 18 when Obama was born, which means though she had been a U.S. Citizen for 10 years, (or citizen perhaps because of Hawai’i being a territory) the mother fails the test for being so for at least 5 years **prior to** Barack Obama’s birth, but *after* age 16.

It doesn’t matter *after* .

In essence, she was not old enough to qualify her son for automatic U.S. Citizenship.

At most, there were only 2 years elapsed since his mother turned 16 at the time of Barack Obama’s birth when she was 18 in Hawaii.

His mother would have needed to have been 16+5= 21 years old, at the time of Barack Obama’s birth for him to have been a natural-born citizen.

As aformentioned, she was a young college student at the time and was not. Barack Obama was already 3 years old at that time his mother would have needed to have waited to have him as the only U.S. Cizen parent.

Obama instead should have been naturalized, but even then, that would still disqualify him from holding the office.

A little further research, citing more chapter and verse in the US code, could reveal if this is accurate (which I have not done yet) as regards the legal definition of natural-born citizen at the time as stated by the US constitution. It is a technicality...and one clearly Obama would argue against and probably take all the way to the USSC.
20 posted on 06/10/2008 7:14:17 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head
and probably take all the way to the USSC.

And a decision would be rendered sometime in 2014... :)

24 posted on 06/10/2008 7:15:46 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Jeff Head

Thanks for including that information in this thread. It’s a very interesting situation for sure.


26 posted on 06/10/2008 7:17:15 AM PDT by LibertyRocks (The LibertyRocks Blog - http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com & http://www.LibertyRocks.us)
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To: Jeff Head

If he was born in America to an American mother, you’re gonna have a very tough time getting him disqualified (even if nuances of law indicate he should be).


91 posted on 06/10/2008 8:10:59 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The average piece of junk is more meaningful than our criticism designating it so. - Ratatouille)
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To: Jeff Head

Regardless of anything else that has been used against Obama up to this point, if the law is correctly stated, and if the facts and circumstances are shown to be true, this is political dynamite of the highest and most explosive order.

No wonder they’re trying to keep things under wraps. Perhaps there is some snippet of information on the mysterious birth certificate that disclaims citizenship, or could be implied to do that.

- John


107 posted on 06/10/2008 8:35:22 AM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: Jeff Head
Barack Obama’s father was not a U.S. Citizen and Obama’s mother was only 18 when Obama was born, which means though she had been a U.S. Citizen for 10 years, (or citizen perhaps because of Hawai’i being a territory) the mother fails the test for being so for at least 5 years **prior to** Barack Obama’s birth, but *after* age 16.

One would have to check the law that made Hawaii a state, but I assume that everyone who was born there prior to it becoming a state did not have to go thru a naturalization process to be considered a US citizen. No naturalization required, then the only alternative is to be considered natural born.

Barry Goldwater had something similar because he was born in AZ before it became a state.

120 posted on 06/10/2008 8:53:33 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Jeff Head

That’s all irrelevant unless he was born outside the US. If he was born in Hawaii, the citizenship status of neither of his parents matters (unless they were here as diplomats or members of an occupying army).


181 posted on 06/10/2008 4:23:05 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Jeff Head
and probably take all the way to the USSC

He deserves that opportunity.

191 posted on 06/10/2008 5:48:55 PM PDT by ThanhPhero (di hanh huong den La Vang)
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