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Now Hear This, Now Hear This.......American Conservatives Speaking
Col. Riley's Corner ^ | Col. Riley

Posted on 06/07/2008 6:52:20 AM PDT by do the dhue

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To: MaggieCarta

I hope the Conservatives in these districts find a reason to go clean their House and Senate.


81 posted on 06/07/2008 8:40:57 AM PDT by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. General Creighton Abrams)
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To: do the dhue
Wow! I like this Col. Riley!

Now, if he would only back away from supporting, what was it, "fruity Newt" Gorebull Warming stuff...

82 posted on 06/07/2008 8:41:31 AM PDT by MaggieCarta (Anybody who thinks of going to bed before 12 o'clock is a scoundrel. Samuel Johnson)
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To: do the dhue; penelopesire
> Third Parties are not strong enough

Both the current major parties were third parties at one point in time. A third party becomes a majority party when enough people believe in and are willing to work for the causes it espouses.

83 posted on 06/07/2008 8:42:28 AM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: do the dhue

“...but I am not sending money to him or the RNC.”

Same here actually. My post is about defeatist attitude, my actions are about anger at the Leftward movement of the Party.

Somehow we have to change our attitudes, all our attitudes. As I hear sometimes allegedly “possession is 9/10ths the law” stated, I believe “attitude” is 9/10ths of winning.

The “win” is for America, not specifically any candidate at this point. WE have to somehow “WIN” for America.

McCain’s all we have with a chance to defeat Obama, and it looks as though that isn’t going to change before November.

I think we need to really perk up and kick some butt. WE NEED CONSERVATIVES IN CONGRESS not only to keep Obama from successfully destroying this Nation should he win, but McCain as well.


84 posted on 06/07/2008 8:42:47 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: NewJerseyJoe
get hit by meteorites

What?? Have you heard something? We have meteor showers forecasted?

Or is this just more hype about 'hope' and 'change'?

85 posted on 06/07/2008 8:45:19 AM PDT by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. General Creighton Abrams)
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To: Gondring
so we're the last ones with any easy-to-extract remaining.

At which time they will tax the living sh*t out it and cover it with so much cap and trade that it will be more expensive to use than plutonium.

Use it or lose it

86 posted on 06/07/2008 8:46:11 AM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: rockinqsranch

There is no doubt about that. We do need Conservatives in Congress and fast. It won’t matter who is President, we will need them.

But attitude should be shaped by leaders. McCain is not shaping my attitude and the RNC has done nothing to get me excited to send them a nickle. They need to motivate the base and others or we will be in a bigger pickle then we are now.


87 posted on 06/07/2008 8:48:17 AM PDT by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. General Creighton Abrams)
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To: NewJerseyJoe
I think I see a shift. The Dems are run by the Progressives now. They should just call themselves the Progressive Party. Republicans are acting more like old demorats. Republicans should call themselves Demorats. We are starting to need a new party to take up the Conservative cause and grow it.
88 posted on 06/07/2008 8:50:55 AM PDT by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. General Creighton Abrams)
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To: NewJerseyJoe
I think the conservative defeatists confuse battle with war.

The war is against liberals. McCain is not a liberal, he is not a Democrat. He is not as pure as the wind driven snow, absolute Christ like perfection, but he has conservative in his soul.

His nomination is at most a lost battle, perhaps even a small battle. The war for conservative absolutes against the liberal hordes must go on.

To not vote for McCain is to surrender the field and abandon the war.

(there might be parallels to contentious objectors fleeing to Canada or Pacifist Rats whining about the war in Iraq, but I won't go there)

89 posted on 06/07/2008 8:51:13 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . The Bitcons will elect a Democrat by default)
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To: MaggieCarta
lol

I think the deal with Newt is, he came up with the contract for America. Newt thinks (and probably rightly so) that we need a new contract. He just needs to go back and work on the globull warming crap and bring it back to us.

90 posted on 06/07/2008 8:52:37 AM PDT by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. General Creighton Abrams)
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To: bert
> McCain is not a liberal

Time to wake up, son.

> he has conservative in his soul

What kind of meaningless doubletalk is that??? Like the time Dubya said he looked into Putin's soul??

Empirically speaking.... there is an abundance of evidence proving the viewpoint of me and others, as has been witnessed here on FR. There is no evidence supporting the viewpoint you hold. Good luck in November.

91 posted on 06/07/2008 10:12:15 AM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: Sherman Logan
Your points are well written and well made, but here's the problem. There's a difference between having a nominee with firm principles who then moves to the center to persuade the general election electorate, versus a party that stands for nothing, alienates its base, and appeals to its enemies for votes. This is the Republican Party.

If that awful cap and trade bill had passed McCain would have signed it, just like Obama. If Congress passes amnesty, McCain will don a sombrero and sign it. He is one of them, a liberal, a betrayer. There are Freepers who can hold their nose anyway. But this is how it will be between now and November. I wish them well.

92 posted on 06/07/2008 10:46:10 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: Nuc1
My vote my call. Your vote your call. I don't recall be demeaning toward you.

Nor I to you. Let us hope that our fellow conservatives also consider their votes for Barr.

93 posted on 06/07/2008 10:50:27 AM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: do the dhue

The RINOCRATS are not listening and I don’t think they care. There are two liberals running for president. One is a liberal on a budget and the other one wants a blank check. Either way we are screwed. We stopped being a democracy a long time ago. The oligarchy and inteligentsia are playing us like a fiddle. It has become a pretend democracy, no matter what we vote they do what they want anyway.


94 posted on 06/07/2008 11:02:07 AM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: yldstrk

“Problem is, I think McCain will listen to the American people,”

I would like one example that he ever has. He SAID he heard the people about immigration, enforcement first, but has backed away from that yet again. Instead he’s pandering to the ‘hispanics’. He doesn’t need or want conservatives. He’s made that clear.

“I disagree with what the majority of the American people want.”

John McCain

`I believe my party has gone astray,’’ McCain said, criticizing GOP stands on environmental and minority issues.

*****``I think the Democratic Party is a fine party, and I have no problems with it, in their views and their philosophy,’’ he said. ``But I also feel the Republican Party can be brought back to the principles I articulated before.’’
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1976952/posts?page=79

McCain ad addresses Hispanics

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2027375/posts


95 posted on 06/07/2008 11:03:34 AM PDT by AuntB (Vote Obama! ..........Because ya can't blame 'the man' when you are the 'man'.... Wanda Sikes)
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To: Sherman Logan
Today we're coming off an extended period of (perceived) consertative dominance.

PERCEIVED conservative dominance. Given that the problems in this country are caused by liberalism, which is a better strategy for conservatives:

  1. Work to educate the public that their policies are different from the dominant philosophy, or
  2. Act more like liberals, so that they can keep power while further smearing conservatism.
Does #2 make any sense as a strategy for holding back liberalism?
96 posted on 06/07/2008 11:10:45 AM PDT by supercat
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To: ex-snook
I like your analysis. I do wonder if income and wealth can be joined unless, perhaps, there is also a kind of 'progressive tax' on wealth.

Such taxes are always manipulated so as to exclude those with power; their function is thus to provide those who have power from would-be challengers. No thanks.

97 posted on 06/07/2008 11:13:50 AM PDT by supercat
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To: bert
He is not as pure as the wind driven snow, absolute Christ like perfection, but he has conservative in his soul.

Could you list some conservative principles that McCain understands and believes in? Support for the war, probably, but what else?

McCain sometimes votes with conservatives, but I see very little to suggest he's does so out of personal conviction rather than political expediency. Can you offer some examples other than the war?

98 posted on 06/07/2008 11:22:33 AM PDT by supercat
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To: Sherman Logan
Peggy Noonan said that hillary can't "turn the page" bcause she IS the page.

McCain can appeal to the "squishy middle" for the same reason - he IS the squishy middle.

If republicans across the board loose out on funding, and votes, because of that then so be it.
And, if 2008 leaves us with a party of the left and a party of the squishy middle...maybe there is a message there that both the middle and the right need to take notice of.

99 posted on 06/07/2008 11:30:48 AM PDT by norton
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To: do the dhue

It all sounds nice Colonel, but you are asking the wrong people to do these things....they are just not interested. If you persist then you must be an extremist.

(sarcasm, sort of)


100 posted on 06/07/2008 11:34:09 AM PDT by Grunthor (McCain sucks, Obama blows and the United States is screwed.)
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