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1 posted on 05/31/2008 2:49:27 PM PDT by byteback
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Did anyone catch that Obama said he and 'wife Michele' had discussed leaving Church - 'while he was running for President'; after the Press Club 'show'. Wondering if this inserted, so that when he returns to this Church, POST Election; he can offer that he NEVER said he would leave permanently. . .

Secondly, am amazed at tone here; blaming Media, poltics et al; reserving the right for those members to express their faith 'racist hate' against all things/people. ..'white'. And in general, America 'et al'. . .

326 posted on 05/31/2008 5:20:33 PM PDT by cricket (Damn Political Correctness; before it irretrievably, damns us all. . .)
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The church and that neighborhood were his base. He can kiss his senate seat goodbye too............


331 posted on 05/31/2008 5:21:02 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Three words that make me want to barf: Clinton, Obama, McCain...........;)
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While it's too late for him to denounce the hate of his church/pastor/mentors....and while it's too late for him to (cough cough) resign from his church.....I am so curious as to what church he will join.
347 posted on 05/31/2008 5:25:42 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://www.americasupportsyou.mil/)
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“I’m not denouncing the church” !!!


356 posted on 05/31/2008 5:27:05 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Michelle O's handlers: "Get me white people...!!!")
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Barak, that church will continue to haunt you even if you have quit it.


363 posted on 05/31/2008 5:28:47 PM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
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Larry Sinclair is right there getting lots of interviews about his 1999 cocaine and homo sex with Obsama.

http://larrysinclair0926.wordpress.com/

He says “I will put a more complete post up as I am working on it now. I will tell you have have spoken with 8 US and International Journalists and have contact information on three others who plan to meet with me before leaving DC. I will not identify these Journalist because I am not going to allow anyone or anything to scare these people and stop them from publishing and airing this story.

I will put up the more complete report as soon as I have ll video and photos uploaded.

Obsama is gonna do a lot more resigning


400 posted on 05/31/2008 5:39:40 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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Sad but inevitable if he wanted any hope in the national election. Still, it took much longer than it should’ve and won’t entirely go away since it looks entirely political and not as result of rejecting 20 years of hateful rhetoric and racist black liberation theology.


407 posted on 05/31/2008 5:45:06 PM PDT by newzjunkey (NO 99. YES 98. Goldsmith. De Maio. Thalheimer. Boling. Hunter. Sanders. YES on A, B & C.)
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He's dead, Jim !
419 posted on 05/31/2008 5:50:25 PM PDT by stylin19a
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I lived in Chicago for 27 years, and had never been to Trinity, but I knew Jeremiah Wright was a bombastic over-the-top hater of Whitey. I also knew Pfleger was a flake and that Ayers was a terrorist.

Barak is not exactly quick to understand what's going on around him.

By the way, is he still demanding preconditions before meeting with General Petreus?

443 posted on 05/31/2008 6:08:44 PM PDT by cookcounty (Obama reach across the aisle? He's so far to the left, he'll need a roadmap to FIND the aisle.)
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Resign ??????? — bump

I didn’t know he was “employed” there to “resign”

Normally you withdraw your name from membership or transfer membership.

My guess is that he was never very regular in attendance OR active in any way.

Just another thing to add to the resume. Now it is tarnishing - not enhancing - him.


453 posted on 05/31/2008 6:21:57 PM PDT by DollyCali (Don't tell GOD how big your storm is -- Tell the storm how B-I-G your God is!)
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He’ll be a typical white guy by November....


455 posted on 05/31/2008 6:31:15 PM PDT by There's millions of'em (I will not surrender to the Libs by refusing to vote for McCain... I am an American fighting man.)
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Love the Keywords listed in association with the posting of this article. Almost ran out of room :)

AOL’s headline has the story announced in such a way that his reason for quitting is that the Media are hounding the Church’s Shut-ins and he’s had “enough”.

He kills two birds with one stone with the martyr role ... he is able to distance himself from the Church, while keepin’ em’ rollin in the aisles for him.

He’s a slick one, he is.


461 posted on 05/31/2008 6:51:41 PM PDT by IwaCornDogs (No one appreciates the very special genius of your conversation as the dog does.")
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FALSTAFF
Stand here by me, Master Robert Shallow; I will
make the king do you grace: I will leer upon him as
a’ comes by; and do but mark the countenance that he
will give me.

PISTOL
God bless thy lungs, good knight.

FALSTAFF
Come here, Pistol; stand behind me. O, if I had had
time to have made new liveries, I would have
bestowed the thousand pound I borrowed of you. But
‘tis no matter; this poor show doth better: this
doth infer the zeal I had to see him.

SHALLOW
It doth so.

FALSTAFF
It shows my earnestness of affection,—

SHALLOW
It doth so.

FALSTAFF
My devotion,—

SHALLOW
It doth, it doth, it doth.

FALSTAFF
As it were, to ride day and night; and not to
deliberate, not to remember, not to have patience
to shift me,—

SHALLOW
It is best, certain.

FALSTAFF
But to stand stained with travel, and sweating with
desire to see him; thinking of nothing else,
putting all affairs else in oblivion, as if there
were nothing else to be done but to see him.

PISTOL
‘Tis ‘semper idem,’ for ‘obsque hoc nihil est:’
‘tis all in every part.

SHALLOW
‘Tis so, indeed.

PISTOL
My knight, I will inflame thy noble liver,
And make thee rage.
Thy Doll, and Helen of thy noble thoughts,
Is in base durance and contagious prison;
Haled thither
By most mechanical and dirty hand:
Rouse up revenge from ebon den with fell
Alecto’s snake,
For Doll is in. Pistol speaks nought but truth.

FALSTAFF
I will deliver her.

Shouts within, and the trumpets sound

PISTOL
There roar’d the sea, and trumpet-clangor sounds.

Enter KING HENRY V and his train, the Lord Chief- Justice among them

FALSTAFF
God save thy grace, King Hal! my royal Hal!

PISTOL
The heavens thee guard and keep, most royal imp of fame!

FALSTAFF
God save thee, my sweet boy!

KING HENRY IV
My lord chief-justice, speak to that vain man.
Lord Chief-Justice Have you your wits? know you what ‘tis to speak?

FALSTAFF
My king! my Jove! I speak to thee, my heart!

KING HENRY IV
I know thee not, old man: fall to thy prayers;
How ill white hairs become a fool and jester!
I have long dream’d of such a kind of man,
So surfeit-swell’d, so old and so profane;
But, being awaked, I do despise my dream.
Make less thy body hence, and more thy grace;
Leave gormandizing; know the grave doth gape
For thee thrice wider than for other men.
Reply not to me with a fool-born jest:
Presume not that I am the thing I was;
For God doth know, so shall the world perceive,
That I have turn’d away my former self;
So will I those that kept me company.
When thou dost hear I am as I have been,
Approach me, and thou shalt be as thou wast,
The tutor and the feeder of my riots:
Till then, I banish thee, on pain of death,
As I have done the rest of my misleaders,
Not to come near our person by ten mile.
For competence of life I will allow you,
That lack of means enforce you not to evil:
And, as we hear you do reform yourselves,
We will, according to your strengths and qualities,
Give you advancement. Be it your charge, my lord,
To see perform’d the tenor of our word. Set on.


464 posted on 05/31/2008 6:55:55 PM PDT by Jim Noble (May 17 was my Tenth Anniversary on FR)
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Eh...so what.

He knew what the church represented and stuck with them all this time. I’m not really sure I believe he bought into all they sold, his membership probably had more to do with political ambition. His wife is another matter. But that he was willing to associate with it and the doctrine being preached, have his kids baptized there and seemingly being okay with his wife buying into the doctrine all for the political connections attached says everything I need to know about him.


468 posted on 05/31/2008 7:16:56 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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Black Liberation Theology is plain old racism.

This isn't the cause of Jesus Christ. It isn't even Christianity.

It is evil racism, Marxism, and every other tool of the clever Lucifer who manipulates human beings so well.

Don't fall for it.

478 posted on 05/31/2008 7:41:13 PM PDT by SkyPilot ("I wasn't in church during the time when the statements were made.")
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Technical question of sorts: Are his two children who he had baptized at his now renounced hate filled church, still members? Will he have to have them rebapitized now at a more politcally acceptable church?


480 posted on 05/31/2008 7:42:17 PM PDT by Delacon ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." H. L. Mencken)
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TOO LITTLE, TOO LATE

He claims the "new pastor" and the church have been suffering from his campaign - HA! More like his CAMPAIGN has been suffering from people finding out what he stands for!

FROM THE AP - (17 minutes ago...)
Obama quits Chicago church after long controversy
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080601/ap_on_el_pr/obama

By TOM RAUM, Associated Press Writer 17 minutes ago

ABERDEEN, S.D. - Barack Obama said Saturday he has resigned his 20-year membership in the Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago "with some sadness" in the aftermath of inflammatory remarks by his longtime pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, and more recent fiery remarks at the church by a visiting priest.

"This is not a decision I come to lightly ... and it is one I make with some sadness," Obama said at a news conference after campaign officials released a letter of resignation he sent to the church on Friday.

"I'm not denouncing the church and I'm not interested in people who want me to denounce the church," he said, adding that the new pastor at Trinity and "the church have been suffering from the attention my campaign has focused on them."

Obama said he and his wife have been discussing the issue since Wright's appearance at the National Press Club in Washington last month, which reignited the furor over remarks Wright had made in various sermons at the church.

"I suspect we'll find another church home for our family," Obama said.

"It's clear that now that I'm a candidate for president, every time something is said in the church by anyone associated with Trinity, including guest pastors, the remarks will imputed to me even if they totally conflict with my long-held views, statements and principles," he said.

"I have no idea how it will impact my presidential campaign but I know it was the right thing to do for me and my family," he said.

"This was a pretty personal decision and I was not trying to make political theater out of it," he added.

For months, Obama has been hamstrung by the rhetoric of Wright, whose sermons blaming U.S. policies for the Sept. 11 attacks and calls of "God damn America" for its racism became fixtures on the Internet and cable news networks.

Initially, Obama said he disagreed with Wright but portrayed him as a family member he couldn't disown. The preacher had officiated at Obama's wedding, baptized his two daughters and been his spiritual mentor for some 20 years.

But six weeks after Obama's well-received speech on race, Wright claimed at the Press Club appearance that the U.S. government was capable of planting AIDS in the black community, praised Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan and suggested that Obama was acting like a politician by putting his pastor at arm's length while privately agreeing with him.

The next day, Obama denounced Wright's comments as "divisive and destructive."

Remarks by Wright inflamed racial tensions and posed an unwanted problem for Obama, front-runner for the Democratic presidential nomination, as he sought to wrap up the party's nod.

More recently, racially charged remarks from the same pulpit by another pastor, the Rev. Michael Pfleger, kept the controversy alive and proved the latest thorn in Obama's side. As a guest speaker at Obama's church, Pfleger mocked Obama rival Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Although Obama condemned comments by both Wright and Pfleger, the controversy persisted.

Obama made clear he wasn't happy with Pfleger's comments — in which the Catholic priest pretended he was Clinton crying over "a black man stealing my show" — and said he was "deeply disappointed in Father Pfleger's divisive, backward-looking rhetoric, which doesn't reflect the country I see or the desire of people across America to come together in common cause."

Pfleger issued an apology, saying he was sorry if his comments offended Clinton or anyone else.

The timing of Obama's decision broke late Saturday, while most of the political attention was focused on the Democratic National Committee's struggle to seat delegates from Florida and Michigan.

Republican John McCain also has had his woes with religious leaders.

Earlier this month, McCain rejected endorsements from two influential but controversial televangelists, saying there is no place for their incendiary criticisms of other faiths.

McCain spurned the months-old endorsement of Texas preacher John Hagee after an audio recording surfaced in which the preacher said God sent Adolf Hitler to help Jews reach the promised land. McCain called the comment "crazy and unacceptable."

He later repudiated the support of Rod Parsley, an Ohio preacher who has sharply criticized Islam and called the religion inherently violent.

"This was one I didn't see coming," Obama said Saturday when he asked if he had anticipated the firestorm that would erupt over his relationship with Wright.

483 posted on 05/31/2008 7:45:40 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (The LibertyRocks Blog - http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com & http://www.LibertyRocks.us)
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Hmmm... I guess that was the CHANGE OBAMA had — CHANGING his church after 20 years!!


491 posted on 05/31/2008 7:58:21 PM PDT by EagleandLiberty (El Rushbo Tribal name -- RinoHunter CominHg Soon - a new CONSERVATIVE PARTY --- www.falconparty.com)
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497 posted on 05/31/2008 8:13:59 PM PDT by Gomez (trainer of insects)
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This is such a joke . He really sticks to his commitments . Yea , hes a whole new kind of politician . BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!!!!


507 posted on 05/31/2008 8:36:45 PM PDT by Deetes
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