[Red Badger]

Have at it!.........

[gracesdad]

Bridge for Sale!! Bridge for Sale!!

[Lazamataz]

[Eric in the Ozarks]

Palladium and Unobtanium...

[CollegeRepublican]

Just once I want one of these unlimited energy ideas to really bear fruit.

[thackney]

Nuclear power plants use the heat from the reaction to generate steam to turn the turbine to generate electricity.

What benefit would cold fusion bring to the world if it did exist?

[mc5cents]

I smell a huge government grant. More study needed don’tcha know.

[from occupied ga]

I suppose it's not impossible, but I find it hard to believe that a molecular catalyst could suffice to overcome nuclear reaction activation energy. It would be great if true, then all of this ethanol hokum could be put to rest.

[RightWhale]

This seems to be similar to the first cold fusion experiment. Several critical items were left out of the description, perhaps to conceal problem areas.

[Dr. Bogus Pachysandra]

“pynco”
I’m going to start a new, pro fusion, advocacy group. It will be called;
Code Pynco. Or maybe Cold Pynco.

[DBrow]

I've yet to see a cold fusion experiment where they measured the particle flux from the reaction vessel. That's the key.

D-D fusion must emit certain particles, and likewise D-T and T-T. To date nobody has run an experiment using readily available particle spectrometers. There have been a few half-hearted measurements of induced activity, but no “real” measurements.

[Netheron]

Interesting. This is one of those physics effects that I do not believe to be true, but would be happy to be proven wrong about. There are a number of things, however, which need to be verified beyond the heat.

1) Presence of Helium: Obviously, if it is fusion, then there should be fusion byproducts.

2) Presence of Radiation: One of the big problems with believing the initial experiments is the fact that Pons and Fleischmann should have died from the neutron radiation generated. In D-D experiments, equivalent gamma radiation is expected to occur, although it would not be nearly as dangerous.

3) Variation according to concentration of Deuterium: How does the reaction rate vary according to the amount of D inserted? This should give important information regarding the reaction.

I assume that they have already tested for a different reaction given D as opposed to normal Hydrogen. It isn't explicitly stated in the article, but is highly implied from the context.

Even if the experiment turns out not to be cold fusion and is normal electrochemistry in disguise, explaining it should significantly improve our understanding of electrochemistry in certain contexts. Therefore, by making it duplicatable, at least some real science can come out of this whole mess. These scientists deserve reasonable praise even if it turns out not to be fusion.

[apt4truth]

"Arata and Zhang demonstrated very successfully the generation of continuous excess energy [heat] from ZrO2-nano-Pd sample powders under D2 gas charging and generation of helium-4," Takahashi told New Energy Times. "The demonstrated live data looked just like data they reported in their published papers [J. High Temp. Soc. Jpn, Feb. and March issues, 2008]. This demonstration showed that the method is highly reproducible."

This looks good. Really good. I would bet the oil companies will do everything in their power to stop this if it is true. They are making a killing now and don't want to stop any time soon.

[Navy Patriot]

Hummmm, ...... what's a pound of deuterium go for these days? 158 degrees is restaurant grade hot water, and the management could use the helium for the decorative balloons.

[Larry Lucido]

Ping

[djf]

No matter what they say about the original, from what I hear, Pons and Fleischmann are about as close to perfect you can get when it comes to measuring the thermodynamic ins and outs.

If they say more energy came out than what went in, you can pretty much bank on it.

[Captain Beyond]

bump for later read

[Old Professer]

Drop some lye, a beer can and about one quart of water in an ice bucket and see what happens in the next two days.

[KarlInOhio]

Evidence for the occurrence of this fusion came from measuring the temperature inside the cell. When Arata first injected the deuterium gas, the temperature rose to about 70° C (158° F), which Arata explained was due to nuclear and chemical reactions. When he turned the gas off, the temperature inside the cell remained warmer than the cell wall for 50 hours, which Arata said was an effect of nuclear fusion.

What happens when he injects regular (or even better deuterium stripped) hydrogen? Comparing that to the deuterium result should show whether it is a nuclear reaction or if it just a natural result of hydrogen reacting chemically with the palladium and zirconium oxide. I could see how hydrogen might just be reducing the oxides. I don't remember if that is supposed to be create or absorb heat.

[Congressman Billybob]

Is the New Energy Times a Lyndon LaRouche publication? If so, this story makes complete sense. LaRouche and his puppets have been pushing the "cold fusion" premise for 30 years that I know of. And all LaRouche publications are a combination of occasional facts and brass-plated dishonesty and paranoia.

Who knows the background of the named sources?

Congressman Billybob

Latest article, "Ever See a Bridge Pull?"

[NoLibZone]

I’d not want to get on a plane with either of these two on board.