Posted on 05/16/2008 1:04:28 PM PDT by JRochelle
Newly-announced Obama endorser and superdelegate, Rep. Pete Stark, talking about the California gay marriage decision on XM's POTUS08 earlier today:
Rebecca Roberts, XM: Congressman Pete Stark of California, a new super-delegate for Barack Obama. I wanted to get your reaction, by the way, since you're a Californian, on the Supreme Court decision to overturn the ban on gay marriage.
Stark: I think that was, you know... California usually leads on these issues of human rights and civil rights. I was quite proud of our state supreme court. We're going to have a big fight, because you know, the born-again Christians and their right wing loonies are going to put this thing on the ballot, which you can do easily in California through petitions. So it's going to be a tough fight. It'll be nasty. I find the homophobes become very unpleasant people and we're going to have to work hard to protect human rights in California. I hope we can do it. It would be a sad day for California to start to trash people's constitutional rights.
Somebody said earlier this morning that I — my colleagues, I don't — put their hands on the Bible to support the Constitution, but I've never seen them putting their hands on the Constitution to support the Bible... [Roberts says that's a pretty good line, and Stark returns to the topic.]
And I just think (muffled) we're dealing with people who want to have a responsible realtionship between two-
I wonder what they're going to do with the Mormons. I'd like to put polygamy up if they want to fight this battle. Let's go into Utah and have it out. I mean, I don't have any quarrel with polygamy, as long as they leave little kids alone, which is child abuse.
But if you want to have three husbands, be my guest. I think that to me, that's your decision.
I think it's kind of humorous you're going to find the Mormons leading the fight against gay marriage, which is an interesting commentary on what you believe.
(I would note that Rebecca Roberts of XM is way too classy to bring up Mormons or polygamy in this context; Stark brings up the false stereotype about Mormons on his own.)
Audio here.
So... I wonder how Senator Obama feels about Stark's characterization of the Mormon faith.
UPDATE: Campaign Spot reader Kevin notes, "He may want to check his Funk and Wagnalls, polygamy is having more than one wife, polyandry is having more than one husband."
P.S I had to adjust the title, too long.
Flame incoming.
I’m pretty sure most Mormons want polygamy or gay marriage either.
This congressman is a dolt.
A guy with multiple guys would be ok.
Fortney is one of those buffoons who believes that a bunch of black-robed idiots should ALWAYS trump the will of “We the People” in this country. Good Night America!
I don’t mind if THEY want polygamy, but I have to wonder WHY anybody would WANT more than one spouse!?!?!..........Multiple mothers-in-law is a punishment worse than death!............
Using Stark's logic, we're trampling on the constitutional rights of killers by putting them in prison. And before someone notes that the constitution allows the government to create laws, and laws against murder are among them... You need to solve the paradox that Californians 'voted' to outlaw gay marriage and yet the supreme court of CA claimed that law to be unconstitutional.
Mr Stark is proof that this is a great country. Anybody can get into government no matter how mentally challenged they might be.
All he did was prove the argument that redefining marriage to fit gay marriage is a slippery slope to redefining it for polygamy, beastiality, pedophilia, etc. Stark’s kind used to scream, “slippery slope argument, slippery slope argument,” but he just proved by his words that it was a valid argument. Next up, beastiality, then we’ll start hearing the whining of “who are we to say what the age of consent is, it’s arbitrary anyway.”
Congress has become a worthless bunch of turds. The lot of them.
Agreed. I have never been so depressed about the future...seems like judge-made law is the way we are headed.
The voters just don’t count for much anymore.
Yep. Once gay "marriage" is the law of the land, the rest of the boundaries will come crashing down like dominoes. Why should a few thousand years of hard-won human experience that developed those taboos concern "human rights" geniuses like Fortney? His job is to tear civilization down. Visit San Fransicko and enjoy the "enlightened" stink.
“Mainstreamed” Mormons have more social capital to lose with the legalizatino of polygamy than any other organized group in the country. Over a hundred years of effort to mainstream the cult will have been wiped away by a minority splinter group of polygamists if the polygamists put forward a legal challenge to the definition of marriage as only between two people, in the state of California, in today’s political and judicial climate.
Ask yourself why should polygamists NOT put forth a legal challenge? Ask yourself why a religion that is based on eternal celestial polygamy would NOT want to lose the more valuable social acceptance in the American society rather than follow the word and teachings of their prophets. Profits over prophets argument.
If you are a Mormon that believes the church teachings that one day polygamy is to be legal in this world again, would this not be considered The Sign that the time has come?
The Salt Lake based Church is going to be fighting off attempts by splinter groups to challenge this in California for the next several decades.
Just another idiot spreading joy and wisdom in the hallowed halls of the US Congress.
"Who are you to question our love? This is a civil rights issue, not a religious issue. Stay out of our bedroom."
This turd is a raving lunatic.
Had I not known who said this from the beginning I would have sworn that it was the ramblings of a deranged mental patient.
I agree.
I keep telling myself this is Biblical prophecy writ large. I thought the people paid to represent this country understood that they walk knee-deep in the blood of their countrymen and our forebears. To witness such cowardice, corruption and knavery over and over turns the image of all that white of the DC buildings to melting lava in my mind.
Pirates are everywhere.
can somebody can this jackass?
once all barriers are down, you won't see many gays marrying because they'll find out this country SCREWS married people.......
quick...somebody...find us a country.....or a state ....to move too...
Now THERE's a picture!
OF course; if the Living Prophet® said GOD TOLD ME, and the 12 yesmen agreed; we'd have Flamin' Faith meetings TOMORROW!!
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