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Sorry, but family history really is bunk
The Spectator ^ | 30th April 2008 | Leo McKinstry

Posted on 05/08/2008 3:18:15 PM PDT by forkinsocket

Leo McKinstry says the current craze for genealogy reflects an unhealthy combination of snobbery and inverse snobbery, and is a poor replacement for national history

When I visited the National Archives at Kew last week the place was full of them, scurrying about with their plastic wallets in hand, a look of eager concentration on their faces. It was impossible to escape their busy presence as they whispered noisily to relatives or whooped over the discovery of some new piece of information.

These were the followers of one of Britain’s fastest-growing craze, the mania for researching family history. Studying bloodlines and tracing ancestral roots was once the preserve of the aristocracy. Today, as I saw at the National Archives, it has become a favourite activity of the British public. We are becoming a nation of obsessive genealogists. According to a recent study by the polling organisation YouGov, 28 per cent of British people have tried at some stage to trace their family tree, and 10 per cent of the population are currently doing so. It is said that genealogy websites are the most commonly visited on the internet after pornography. The website Genes Reunited, which claims to be ‘the UK’s number one family tree and genealogy site’, boasts that it has no fewer than eight million members. Another major web company, Find My Past, says that it has a registered usership of 1.32 million people and a mailing list of almost 600,000.

Ten years ago, there was just one mainstream genealogy magazine. Now there are seven. Another indicator of this fixation with family history is the phenomenal success of the BBC series Who Do You Think You Are?, whose weekly episodes feature different celebrities tracing their roots.

(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; United Kingdom
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To: forkinsocket

Perhaps Mr. McKinstry (with whom I share surnames) was just disappointed (as I was) to discover that the family name was not a distinct clan name unto itself with a designated plaid.

In truth, I have nothing against geneaology, but I’d really like to know the stories of my ancestors not just dates of birth, marriage and death. The real stories are few and far between.


21 posted on 05/08/2008 3:32:06 PM PDT by newheart (The Truth? You can't handle the Truth. But He can handle you.)
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To: republicanequestrian

He’s just another socialist who thinks he’s better than the rest of us.


22 posted on 05/08/2008 3:33:02 PM PDT by darkangel82 (If you're not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. (Say no to RINOs))
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To: forkinsocket

My guess is that the author’s family were probably a bunch of drunken slobs from Scotland or some other such ignominious band of ne’er do wells.

Personally, I get frustrated trying to go back much more than 100-150 years, since our family were all in the Pogroms (and worse) of Eastern Europe at that time. However, I’ve become pretty fanatic about preserving what I can of my parents generational stuff. As I’ve learned through my friends at the County Historical Society, what we may see as pretty ordinary now could be a serious mirror into this time when looked at by 22nd Century historians.


23 posted on 05/08/2008 3:33:11 PM PDT by ssaftler
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To: DManA
I used information we'd surfaced in the family genealogical search to determine that my father's then not successfully diagnosed and treated cardiac problem was actually the result of a gene commonly found among ancestors from the Kola peninsula.

The genealogical information and the medical condition dovetailed. He was able to find a surgical team prepared to correct the problem.

Eventually we will have a national DNA registry. That can be combined with genetic information to assist doctors in diagnosing and treating serious diseases.

BTW, I've since found we have a number of other interesting gene variations that can be of concern if we keep living in these horrid Southern latitudes.

Mush you huskies, mush! We goin' up North to Alaska (if not in this generation, the next maybe).

24 posted on 05/08/2008 3:33:54 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: forkinsocket
True, your worth doesn't come from your ancestors.

Nobody ought to be upset because their ancestors weren't noble or rich or famous.

But genealogy does have its own interest.

It can demonstrate just how connected you may be to the country's history.

It's possible to attach too much importance to ancestry, but it's a little like rhythm or rhyme in literature.

It points out connections that we wouldn't notice otherwise and gives an immediacy to things that could otherwise appear dry and irrelevant.

25 posted on 05/08/2008 3:34:09 PM PDT by x
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To: forkinsocket

Complete and utter horse$hit.

Most genealogists now more American history than other graduates of Liberal Arts Colleges.


26 posted on 05/08/2008 3:36:20 PM PDT by elizabetty (Voting for McCain is like deciding to cut off your leg because it is stuck in a bear trap.)
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To: forkinsocket

Leo McKinstry, I found a statue of your uncle.

27 posted on 05/08/2008 3:36:38 PM PDT by cornelis
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To: x

I have found that ancestors fought in every war since the Revolutionary War. History was one of my favorite subjects in high school.


28 posted on 05/08/2008 3:37:35 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: x

In the case of my family, genealogy provided some healing.

Unanswered questions, unaddressed issues, absent family members.

And I agree, genealogy is a great way to study history.

I just love it!


29 posted on 05/08/2008 3:37:44 PM PDT by i_dont_chat (Houston, TX)
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To: CarrotAndStick
I've taken the short-cut...the DNA approach. That's close enough for me, lol.

The Genographic Project (Have Your DNA Checked, Find Your Roots)

30 posted on 05/08/2008 3:39:07 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: Jeff Head

In one branch of my family I found an interesting chain. A famous Lord Mayor of London whose father was a great West Indies Plantation owner who was one of the largest slave owners in the new world. Within about five generations he had a decendent of the same name that was an acquaintance of John Brown and was accused of being one of the Pottowatome raiders.


31 posted on 05/08/2008 3:40:17 PM PDT by KC Burke (Men sideof intemperate minds can never be free...their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: Jeff Head
Once you get up to about the 3,000 name mark you start noticing anomalies that don't quite dovetail with history. That's when you are in a position to "supplement the record", and clarify the situation for future historians.

An example, we had all these folks who used Revolutionary War warrants to acquire land in the Ohio Valley ~ but none of them were quite old enough to be veterans of the war, and none of them had a father or grandfather who was in the military to earn the warrants.

So, where did they get them if they didn't buy them (also a common practice but there was no evidence they'd purchased them from a vet or vet's family).

Eventually we found they'd had cousins, brothers, uncles and other close relatives, but not direct ancestors, in the Maryland 400 ~ which saw 256 of its number dead at the end of a battle in Brooklyn where they covered George Washington's evacuation to safety. They literally saved the Revolution.

http://www.somdnews.com/stories/053106/entefea173542_32080.shtml

32 posted on 05/08/2008 3:41:45 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: x

I meant to include you, with Jeff, in my post at 31.


33 posted on 05/08/2008 3:42:00 PM PDT by KC Burke (Men sideof intemperate minds can never be free...their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: i_dont_chat
In our case it opened up some eyes.

My mother's side came to America from Naples a century ago, but they came to Naples from Spain during the Inquisition. I suspect they were Jews fleeing Torquemada.

My father's side came to America from Messina at the same time, but they came to Sicily from Greece centuries earlier. (Don't ask about the defrocked priest in that lineage.)

34 posted on 05/08/2008 3:42:16 PM PDT by Publius (A = A)
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To: AdmSmith; AnalogReigns; Cacique; caryatid; Celtjew Libertarian; CobaltBlue; concentric circles; ...
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The one thing I've learned from studying my family tree is that there's a reason some distant relatives are distant.

35 posted on 05/08/2008 3:43:29 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: forkinsocket

Having throughly researched the name “McKinstry” I discovered that it used to be spelled “My Kins Try” and that Leo is an unknown son of Elvis and entitled to half of all of Elvis’ earnings. Go for it Leo!
(maybe this will keep Leo busy instead of worrying about library patrons.)


36 posted on 05/08/2008 3:43:49 PM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: DManA

This thread reminds me of a Monty Python parody commercial where the fast-talking announcer sells a nerdy twit on the notion of plastering his walls with antique photographs of other peoples’ heroic or noble ancestors, and then declares,

“And now, pretend that these forebears are part of YOUR past!!”

(The twit flies rapturously around his overdecorated room).

Anyway, I too look forward to meeting relatives gone long before I was born. At least in Heaven, we’ll all be speaking English.

;^)


37 posted on 05/08/2008 3:44:09 PM PDT by elcid1970 (My cartridges are dipped in pig grease.)
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To: donna
Where does this phrase come from?

inspired genius.

38 posted on 05/08/2008 3:44:41 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: ssaftler
"more than 100-150 years"

Some of my kin's marriage records (in Texas) where packed up & shipped off to Spain when the Spaniards gave up Mexico.

39 posted on 05/08/2008 3:45:05 PM PDT by Deaf Smith
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To: elcid1970

You jest. I have it on good authority you’ll need to know Skolt Sa’ami, and maybe reformed Sumerian.


40 posted on 05/08/2008 3:45:33 PM PDT by muawiyah
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