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Envisioning a World Without Men
ABC News ^ | 04/28/2008 | Nick Watt

Posted on 04/29/2008 8:04:52 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007

Imagine a world without men: Lauren Bacall but no Bogie, Hillary Clinton but no Bill, no Starsky or Hutch.

This isn't just an unlikely sci-fi scenario. This could be reality, according to Bryan Sykes, an eminent professor of genetics at Oxford University and author of "Adam's Curse: A Future Without Men."

"The Y chromosome is deteriorating and will, in my belief, disappear," Sykes told me. A world-renowned authority on genetic material, Sykes is called upon to investigate DNA evidence from crime scenes. His team of researchers is currently compiling a DNA family tree for our species.

Y Chromosome 'Fatally Flawed'

The Y chromosome is passed from father to son, it's what makes babies into boys. Basically the human template is a female: the Y chromosome kicks in a few weeks after conception and makes a boy. "Men are genetically modified women," explained Sykes. But unlike other chromosomes, the Y chromosome can't repair itself and will, says Sykes, disappear altogether in about 125,000 years.

"Every generation one percent of men will have a mutation which reduces their fertility by 10 percent," explained Sykes. Unlike most chromosomes, the Y does not travel through the generation in pairs, so can never repair itself from a mirror. Flaws are never repaired. "So if that goes on for generation after generation," Sykes argued, "eventually there are no functioning Y chromosomes left."

So no more men … sparsely populated sports bars, Ferrari would lose the lion's share of its business, and Hooters would probably go out of business.

It's a long time, 125,000 years. But we men have a far more immediate problem: sperm counts have fallen by an incredible 20 percent in the past 50 years. Stress? Alcohol? Environmental pollution? Who knows, but it's deeply concerning for those of us with a vested interest in the survival of the male.

Sykes has received hate mail. "To seem to be saying that men will become extinct, which is what I am saying," he mused. "I've had all kinds of messages from male groups saying, 'how can you betray your gender?'"

But would the absence of men make the world a better place? There would be far fewer wars without men on the planet, and the U.S. prison population would drop a colossal 97 percent. Road deaths in the U.S. would fall 70 percent. The Olympics would be half as long, which some people might view as a good thing.

Female-Only Reproduction

But surely, flawed Y chromosome or not, bad behavior or not, we are needed for procreation. Women can't have babies without us … right? I'm afraid, pretty soon they won't need our sperm, our chromosomes, our anything.

Until now, female-only reproduction has been limited to the plant and animal kingdom. So-called parthenogenesis, observed in the Cape Honey Bee, the Kimono Dragon and the hammerhead shark. In humans: confined to 1950s B movies. But Sykes says the technology for women to procreate without us is just around the corner.

"Within the next few years you will get two women having a child who is the biological child of both of them," Sykes said. "And entirely normal in every respect, but always female."

They've already done it with mice. Two mothers: the genetic material from one used to fertilize the egg of the other.

Two Mommies

The picture that Professor Sykes is painting is of a nuclear family without a man in sight. We went in search of what could be the template for the survival of our species. Laura and Natalie are a lovely couple who live in South London with their 13-month-old daughter Sanne. They agreed to let our all-male crew take a peek into their lives. Natalie actually gave birth to Sanne. The sperm came from an anonymous donor. She's raised by two moms.

"That the child will be well balanced with just two moms: Well, that's been proven back in the 40s," explained Natalie, who is also a child psychologist. "It's the care giving and the relationship between the care-giver and the infant that is the important part."

Laura, who right now is the bread winner, thinks any family will work as long as the child is, "getting the attention, the affection, the discipline." Looking at her very contented daughter, Laura told me, "She's obviously confident. She's very stable and secure. So I think so far we're doing okay."

Laura attended both the dads' and the moms' prenatal classes. I asked Natalie if having Laura as the partner was better than having a man? "I had actually a couple of mothers saying, 'Well, at least Laura's a woman she will understand better.'" Natalie told me. "And I said, 'no.' … She was exactly the same as the dads!"

Could Laura mount a defense? "I would like to think that I separate from the dads in that I'm not hooked on the ball games and things like that," she explained. And I must say, she was knee-deep in diaper changing and feeding time while we were hanging out.

So judging by this family, two moms aren't necessarily better, but can be just as good. But surely they must need a burly man for some things? I offered to put up some shelves, or change some light bulbs. "Actually, Laura is very, very handy," Natalie told me, trying not to hurt my feelings.

"My father's a mechanic, so there's nothing about a car that disturbs me," explained Laura. "I've also … I renovated a house. So, I'm really not concerned about that either."

Maybe our only hope as men is that women decide to keep us alive for their own amusement. For the pop music, perhaps, or maybe the dancing. We can be good at that.


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To: hiramknight; Rca2000
This hits close to home. I’ve got a wife, two teenage daughters and a female dog. All of my sister in-laws live locally, with all daughters except for 2 nephews who live further away who I rarely see. A family dinner is typically 14 people...11 women and 3 men. I found it quite amusing at Christmas, looking around the family room at my family. About 20 or so woman running around, cackling away and barking out orders to the few husbands and/or boyfriends who were all cowering together in one corner of the room. All five of us. We’ve adopted a very helpful motto...”just shut up and go to work”.

I know the feeling, where I work at, we have like 4 or 5 women in the room and I'm the only "rooster." Sometimes they go on like there is no rooster in the room, it's kind of fun copying the mail but other times, it is tough for my to relate. Politically, Hillary dominates and I'm the "only right wing nutcase and warmonger for McCain." B-) B-P I tried to explain a sane energy policy once but they wouldn't hear it, they blame President Bush and oil companies for the game prices. Sigh, there are times I feel alone. B-(
101 posted on 04/29/2008 5:45:49 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Is Barak HUSSEIN Obama the Anti-Christ? "Barak Ho-Tep!! Barak Ho-Tep!")
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To: Ramius
Anybody who believes this has never worked in an all-female office.

Believe me, I know, I'm the only "rooster" in my office. B-) B-P
102 posted on 04/29/2008 5:48:27 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Is Barak HUSSEIN Obama the Anti-Christ? "Barak Ho-Tep!! Barak Ho-Tep!")
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To: wagglebee
Imagine how the world will look when the trash is NEVER taken out, the lawn NEVER gets mowed, the oil is NEVER changed and shopping is considered a PROFESSION.

I will be worshipped. *\;-)

103 posted on 04/29/2008 7:00:46 PM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: Tony in Hawaii

You know, I’m not sure I agree, but you might be right. My dad wasn’t perfect, but he loved me and took care of me and was a tenderhearted dad.


104 posted on 04/29/2008 7:57:51 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: Nowhere Man
Much of the same old $hit as far as I am concerned.

I must say, however, that it seems that women AND men in general are getting “dumb” in most cases today. Most people(I would say, 70% of Americans), would rather hear about American Idol, or Survivor or just lap up “it's all Bush's fault” rather than actually TRY and understand ANYTHING about science, world affairs or a TRUE alternative energy solution, such as fusion or fuel cell power.

As for what else would not get done?? I would imagine VERY few electrical/electronic repairs of ANY kind would get done, without men here. So, it would NOT take long for everything to just “grind to a halt”.

At least not ALL women are man-haters though. I happen to have a CLOSE friend right now, who is a VERY kind and intelligent LADY, who is more of a friend to me on a consistent basis than any of the guy friends in my life, who are NOT often there when I need them, or are NOT comforting at ALL when I need some understanding in my life. Good thing too, since many of my "on-line" friends are no more.

105 posted on 04/29/2008 8:14:28 PM PDT by Rca2000 (I am VERY fearful for the future of this nation......)
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To: Allegra
You know me, girl. I never argue. If anyone is looking for a flame war with me, they are in for a big disappointment. In all my 74 years, I've never seen anyone change their mind once it is set. Waste of time to try.

Hey, sure hope you are having a good time. (((((Allegra)))))

106 posted on 04/29/2008 8:29:57 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: SteelCurtain_SSN720

“Don’t you know that that’s why men have nipples?”

I was sitting at a bar, the guy next to me was nursing a drink. Boy were my nipples sore!

(I think that was a Nipsy Russell joke)


107 posted on 04/29/2008 9:12:33 PM PDT by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: Rca2000
I must say, however, that it seems that women AND men in general are getting “dumb” in most cases today. Most people(I would say, 70% of Americans), would rather hear about American Idol, or Survivor or just lap up “it's all Bush's fault” rather than actually TRY and understand ANYTHING about science, world affairs or a TRUE alternative energy solution, such as fusion or fuel cell power.

Yeah, I hear ya. I know most of them are good people, just ignorant, not knowing or caring what the truth is or to go out and investigate and learn. It's a shame. I know there are times President Bush has disappointed me, but I hate it when he gets blamed for everything from flat tires to high oil prices to cancer.

As for what else would not get done?? I would imagine VERY few electrical/electronic repairs of ANY kind would get done, without men here. So, it would NOT take long for everything to just “grind to a halt”.

Well, I'm sure there are some female technicians but they would get so overwhelmed that things would slow down and "grind to a halt" as you say. It would be like having one worker for accounting for a huge company, his workload would be so high, he's never get done.

At least not ALL women are man-haters though. I happen to have a CLOSE friend right now, who is a VERY kind and intelligent LADY, who is more of a friend to me on a consistent basis than any of the guy friends in my life, who are NOT often there when I need them, or are NOT comforting at ALL when I need some understanding in my life. Good thing too, since many of my "on-line" friends are no more.

Yeah, I remember you talking about her, I'm glad you have at least her to talk to, I know I have one myself, that is easy to take to at work and we are good friends. I do like people that let you explain things, even if you don't quite win them over, at least to listen to where you at least get them to think. The "talk to the hand attitude" of many people are getting to me.
108 posted on 04/30/2008 4:03:12 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Is Barak HUSSEIN Obama the Anti-Christ? "Barak Ho-Tep!! Barak Ho-Tep!")
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

I walked near a clothing store having a sale that was held once a year. I saw no hope for world peace in the store.


109 posted on 04/30/2008 4:10:22 PM PDT by ThomasThomas
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To: 4yearlurker
DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING !

NO more calls, please.

We have a winner!

Cheers!

110 posted on 04/30/2008 6:02:00 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
"Bryan Sykes"

A true metrosexual (or worse) name if I have ever heard one.

Probably has Lifetime Cable piped directly into his office.

Cheers!

111 posted on 04/30/2008 6:05:53 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: IncPen

ping

reminds me of China, a world w/o women


112 posted on 05/01/2008 3:01:36 AM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

>But would the absence of men make the world a better place? There would be far fewer wars without men on the planet,...

And yet those wars would be more devastating than ANY such “male war”... reference “Bloody Mary” and the stark contrast between men and women regarding physical confrontation; men can laugh about it and become friends, women almost never.


113 posted on 12/04/2008 6:32:43 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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