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DETECTIVES: Chris Jenkins murder connects dozens around country
KSTP ^ | 04/23/2008 | Kristi Piehl

Posted on 04/25/2008 7:48:29 AM PDT by toast

Could there be a calculated, cross-country plot to kill young college men, including some in Minnesota? It seems a little hard to believe, but two New York detectives say, they can prove it.

(Excerpt) Read more at kstp.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: banglist; chrisjenkins; homicide; leo; minnesota; murder; newyork; ny; police; serialkiller; smile; smiley; smileyface; smileyfacekillers; smileyfacemurders; wisconsin
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
'WOW!"

Ditto. I had not heard any of this.

21 posted on 04/25/2008 9:54:36 AM PDT by penowa
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To: happinesswithoutpeace
"The rumors became near hysteria in 2004 when the body of UW-La Crosse wrestler Jared Dion, 21, was found in the Mississippi off Riverside Park."

FBI: No Serial Killer in River Drownings
22 posted on 04/25/2008 9:59:57 AM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: happinesswithoutpeace

FR link:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1890304/posts


23 posted on 04/25/2008 10:00:34 AM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: RDTF

‘notha FR link

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1713190/posts


24 posted on 04/25/2008 10:03:46 AM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: RDTF

One more for now.....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1751838/posts


25 posted on 04/25/2008 10:08:34 AM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: wallcrawlr
Re: ...including some in Minnesota?

Wall, take care now... I want you around when my Cowboys clean your Vikqueen's plow!

Again!

26 posted on 04/25/2008 10:09:38 AM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Bender2

cleaning...yeah, the cowboys might qualify for that. seeing as how its womans work


27 posted on 04/25/2008 10:33:06 AM PDT by wallcrawlr
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To: L98Fiero; driftless2
PING!
You were right! There is NO serial killer, there is a GROUP of serial killers!
28 posted on 04/25/2008 10:48:43 AM PDT by Ignatz (I actually said that with a straight face.)
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To: RDTF

“emoticon murders”?


29 posted on 04/25/2008 11:00:01 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: Ignatz

“You were right! There is NO serial killer, there is a GROUP of serial killers!”

LOL! The Serial Killers 409th out of St. Paul?


30 posted on 04/25/2008 11:09:43 AM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: toast

The FBI says there are no murders. Can’t say that I believe that.

One interesting paragraph in the news report:

“The detectives requested that 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS hold back some key details of the murders such as motive and the identities of the informants. They hope that information will someday be used to file criminal charges.”

In other words, if this is true, informants may have provided evidence on some members of this gang.

It’s sheer guesswork, but I would also guess that this is a homosexual ring of some kind. Drug dealers want to punish people who don’t pay up in a way that will discourage others from doing the same. So that doesn’t fly. And it’s much too elaborate for gang initiations. What it suggests to me is some sort of sadistic sex perversion.


31 posted on 04/25/2008 11:10:39 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: happinesswithoutpeace; Squantos; Travis McGee; elkfersupper

Well if the FBI says it is impossible, then we know for sure it is.

Remember Richard Jewell and others.

College men(and women) have been mixing booze and rivers for many years, without these results. I am speaking from experience.


32 posted on 04/25/2008 11:24:41 AM PDT by razorback-bert (If yer gunna regret this in the mornin, we kin sleep til afternoon.)
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To: toast
City after city, when they'd find the spot where the body went in, they would find something else: The symbol of a smiley face.

My question is: How exactly do they "determine where the body went in the river?"

33 posted on 04/25/2008 11:25:30 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: iowamark

In the case of Chris Jenkins, they conducted experiments with tennis balls and a dummy to check out water currents. This was in a report produced by Riptide and attached to the news story at the link.


34 posted on 04/25/2008 11:35:51 AM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: Cicero
“It’s sheer guesswork, but I would also guess that this is a homosexual ring of some kind. Drug dealers want to punish people who don’t pay up in a way that will discourage others from doing the same. So that doesn’t fly. And it’s much too elaborate for gang initiations. What it suggests to me is some sort of sadistic sex perversion.”

You maybe right on the homosexual aspect at some level but I think ,again just guesswork, that a more binding aspect is at work. The homosexuality may be just the a factor that helps to insure silence within the group. The news report says there is organization,hierarchy and cells. That sounds like a cult or perverted religion of some sort. Almost sounds the old Process Church that that operated within the shadows of Scientology in the late 60’s and 70’s although they have long disappeared and were never conclusively connected with murder. Judging from the victims who all appear to young strong males, it seems the killers use that factor to feed a need for power and domination.

35 posted on 04/25/2008 11:39:00 AM PDT by Polynikes (Hey. I got a question. How are you planning to get back down that hill?)
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To: toast; LucyT

OMG. Just when I thought I knew and understood what evil is, now this. I wonder if this is a hate crime thing? I note that many of the young men were very handsome and some people [neoNazis?] assume that to be homosexual. I hope they can do something but won’t they have to call in the FBI?


36 posted on 04/25/2008 11:41:28 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: iowamark
My question is: How exactly do they "determine where the body went in the river?"

They look for the smiley face. ;)

37 posted on 04/25/2008 12:04:40 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat lead.)
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To: toast
I have been aware of these murders for quite some time now and always felt that they were not accidents. It never made sense that these kids simply wandered into rivers and drowned. Not over forty of them, even if drunk.

I am so glad that the families may finally have some resolution.

38 posted on 04/25/2008 12:06:41 PM PDT by Vicki (Washington State where anyone can vote .... illegals, non-residents, dead people, dogs, felons)
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To: sinanju
They may have been withholding the calling card detail so as to thwart copycat pranksters leaving such materials near accident locations.

But if the authorities had good reason to suspect foul play all along, then they have been criminally negligent to engage in a conspiracy to dismiss it all as “drunken accidental drowning”.

39 posted on 04/25/2008 12:15:20 PM PDT by weegee (Vote Obama 2008 for a bitter America.)
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To: the_Watchman

I just read those letters. A great deal of conjecture/estimation is involved. To connect any particular land based graffiti with that drowning is quite a stretch.


40 posted on 04/25/2008 12:16:39 PM PDT by iowamark
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