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It's too late, we're all done for no matter what we do. Photobucket Just last week the lack of sunspots was causing global cooling. What's a person to do when the sky is falling? ;>)
1 posted on 03/10/2008 10:02:26 AM PDT by SiVisPacemParaBellum
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All this climate crap is a load of s**t to keep everybody distracted while our infrastructure is dismantled in front of our eyes. The PEOPLE will have to LEAD the politicians to the right decision (keep the lights on, more nukes, drill for oil here, etc.) as they will not do it themselves. Scientists are standing up as witnessed by the Climate Conference in NYC in March 2008. Get on board with that momentum and carry it forward wherever you can. Here's more ammunition:

The most recent scientific basis for throwing out the CO2 = climate change theory was at the March 2008 International Conference on Climate Change in New York City, attended by over 500 scientists. The Manhattan Declaration on Climate Change from this conference states in part that:
". . . current plans to restrict anthropogenic CO2 emissions are a dangerous misallocation of intellectual capital and resources that should be dedicated to solving humanity's real and serious problems. . . . there is no convincing evidence that CO2 missions from modern industrial activity has in the past, is now, or will in the future cause catastrophic climate change. . . . attempts by governments to inflict taxes and costly regulations on industry and individual citizens with the aim of reducing emissions of CO2 will pointlessly curtail the prosperity of the West and progress of developing nations without affecting climate. . . . adaptation as needed is massively more cost-effective than any attempted mitigation and that a focus on such mitigation will divert the attention and resources of governments away from addressing the real problems of their peoples. . . human-caused climate change is not a global crisis."
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America's interests are not served by relying upon a simplistic linear explanation (CO2 going up = temperature going up), especially since it is clear that CO2 and temperature are decoupled (CO2 has been increasing the last 10 years and temperatures have been flat and are starting to decline).

Steve Forbes, prominent businessman, does not accept the global warming and carbon dioxide connection, Forbes, 10 Mar 2008.
". . a proved correlation between temperature changes and carbon dioxide is almost nonexistent. Turns out that the sun has been quite active in the last half-century or so, hence the slight rise in global temperatures. Other factors in temperature changes include changes in the Earth's axis, in ocean currents and in the salinity of the Arctic Ocean. Volcanoes can also have a dramatic short-term impact on temperatures. But carbon dioxide? No way."

John Coleman, Weather Channel founder, considers global warming the greatest scam in history
"I have learned since the Ice Age is coming scare in the 1970's to always be a skeptic about research. In the case of global warming, I didn't accept media accounts. Instead I read dozens of the scientific papers. I have talked with numerous scientists. I have studied. I have thought about it. I know I am correct when I assure you there is no run away climate change. The impact of humans on climate is not catastrophic. Our planet is not in peril. It is all a scam, the result of bad science."

Bob Lutz, GM Vice-Chairman called global warming a Total Crock of Doo-Doo, Feb 2008 in Dallas, Texas

Climate of Bias
documents the media bias on this important subject. The incessant one-sided energy and environmental coverage from the same-stream media calls into question the usefulness of their reporting. The decline in newspaper readership across the country is a rejection of this bias by those who wish to get additional perspectives.

Public officials at all levels of government need to understand all sides to this issue. The recent near-blackout of portions of the Texas electrical grid (due to unreliable wind power) are a harbinger of things to come if the chicken-littles of CO2 and global warming continue as the basis for electrical generation decisions.

Wind power blows
I have seen tons of windmill components being trucked to West Texas for the past two years - and for what? Piddle power that must constantly be backed up by base load coal, gas and nuclear plants. Lots more information (updated daily) at The Greenie Watch.
30 posted on 03/10/2008 10:17:38 AM PDT by enviros_kill
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The world must bring carbon emissions down to near zero to keep temperatures from rising further.

Therefore, everyone must stop breathing.

I would ask the authors of this study to set the example and stop breathing first.

32 posted on 03/10/2008 10:19:54 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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In the future the levels should rise by a 1/3. Probably within hours.


33 posted on 03/10/2008 10:20:27 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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The world must bring carbon emissions down to near zero to keep temperatures from rising further.

Well, I guess this explains the abundance of shows such as "Life After People." They intend to kill us all. Obviously, events like the eugenics, genocide, and Holocaust of the twentieth century were not enough for the Socialists.

Some people never learn because they are stuck on stupid (or possibly, evil).

36 posted on 03/10/2008 10:22:20 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (I have great faith in the American people. I have no faith in the American government, however.)
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Help us! Barack Obama. You’re our only hope!


39 posted on 03/10/2008 10:24:55 AM PDT by Spruce
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How long until we have to invent stuff to suck the CO2 back out of the atmosphere? Other than trees....


44 posted on 03/10/2008 10:32:43 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Don't trust anyone who can''t take a joke. [Congressman BillyBob])
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Using advanced computer models ...

The computers design the models, ya know. : )

45 posted on 03/10/2008 10:34:38 AM PDT by HoosierHawk
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This is our most desperate hour. Help up Arbor Day Foundation. Your my only hope.

46 posted on 03/10/2008 10:35:55 AM PDT by CougarGA7 (Wisdom comes with age, but sometimes age comes alone.)
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I watched that show last night “Earth, Population Zero” and heard that outrageous quote that 19 pounds of CO2 are released for every gallon of gas burned. This is up from seventeen pounds in the movie, “Who Killed The Electric Car”. I need someone to explain to me so that I can understand, How do you burn EIGHT pounds of fuel, releasing all that heat energy, and end up with NINETEEN pounds of CO2?


47 posted on 03/10/2008 10:36:48 AM PDT by Boiling point (If God had wanted us to vote, he would have given us candidates.)
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I think all the liberal eco-alarmists need to take the intiative and lead by example on this issue with an immediate moratorium on exhaling.


54 posted on 03/10/2008 10:44:13 AM PDT by VRWCmember (McCain 2008 - If it's inevitable, you might as well lay back and try to enjoy it.)
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Well, then, we need to get cracking on building enough nuke plants to replace 100% of our electrical grid capacity.


55 posted on 03/10/2008 10:44:41 AM PDT by steve-b (Sin lies only in hurting others unnecessarily. All other "sins" are invented nonsense. --RAH)
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Craziest sh-t I ever heard of. All LIBS and RATS stop exhaling immediately? My pet rock is overloaded. HIC!


58 posted on 03/10/2008 10:52:59 AM PDT by Waco
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Or not. :-)

Be sure to read the section headed "FERTILIZATION OF PLANTS BY CO2".

63 posted on 03/10/2008 11:07:29 AM PDT by 3niner (War is one game where the home team always loses.)
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Well... that sucks. I just bought a brand new CO2 tank for my beer kegging.

This is just to suck for the atmosphere I guess, since I’m not going to stop making beer.


66 posted on 03/10/2008 11:49:53 AM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Please visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/et al.)
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Don’t we exhale a certain amount of CO2? Then that would mean we all should hold our breath’s .... or die .....???


67 posted on 03/10/2008 11:53:01 AM PDT by SkyDancer ("I Believe In Law Until It Interferes With Justice")
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Should anti-CO2 activists all cease breathing?


70 posted on 03/10/2008 11:58:18 AM PDT by unspun (Mike Huckabee: Government's job is "protect us, not have to provide for us." Duncan Hunter knows.)
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say scientists who have just published studies indicating that it would require the world to cease carbon emissions altogether within a matter of decades.

Now whose tax dollars are spent for these never ending studies? How much do the scientists make per year/grant for their studies. How important for them to come to some catostropic conclusion for the mindless greenies to jump on so the scientists can continue to find the ultimate solution. I know Al Gore is the king of con men but a lot of these scientists come in a close second.

73 posted on 03/10/2008 12:21:24 PM PDT by Bitsy
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In California, counties are being required to implement “smart growth” policies in the name of global warming. http://www.csac.counties.org/default.asp?id=1824

See AB 32 Global Warming Solutions Act of 2006 (Chapter 488, Statutes of 2006 - 1990 emission levels by 2020)

SB 97 requires guidelines for global warming impact analysis and mitigation in the CEQA (California Environmental Quality Act) analysis for proposed projects such as land use planning and transportation planning. Mitigations include requiring Green Building standards; mandated energy efficient upgrades on remodels; transit-oriented development policies (smart cluster growth); alternative fuel vehicle mandates for public agencies; cool roofs; solar generation; etc.

AG Jerry Brown has indicated that he will sue the Counties if they do not implement: http://ag.ca.gov/globalwarming/pdf/CSAC_Article_Jan2008.pdf


74 posted on 03/10/2008 12:22:20 PM PDT by marsh2
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77 posted on 03/10/2008 2:42:08 PM PDT by steelyourfaith
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78 posted on 03/10/2008 2:47:45 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Cloverfield 2008! Why vote for a lesser monster?)
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