[BGHater]

See also, http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1971397/posts

[The Magical Mischief Tour]

Holy Sheet!!!

[Red Badger]

How tall is the figure on the shroud?...........

[The Duke]

Well, Judge, it depends on the meaning of the word “graven”.

[max americana]

Another test?? groann....

[Monterrosa-24]

Some of the impetus for this comes from William Meacham’s book, THE RAPE OF THE TURIN SHROUD. Meacham has some pretty harsh words for the clergy in charge.

[SpringheelJack]

David Rolfe, the director of the documentary, said it was hugely significant that Prof Ramsey had thought it necessary to carry out further tests that could challenge the original dating.

I think Ramsey is just willing to perform additional tests to shut up people like Rolfe, who are scared of letting this moneymaker die. Paint me shocked if the new tests produce any result materially different from the previous ones. The fact that the Shroud has no history prior to late medieval times is damning in itself.

[AndyTheBear]

To the dismay of Christians, the researchers concluded that the shroud was created between 1260 and 1390, and was therefore likely to be a forgery devised in the Middle Ages.

To the dismay of "Christians"? How about to dismay of those who happened to really, really believe that the shroud was for real and had based their entire faith on it.

[<1/1,000,000th%]

Here we go again.

[meandog]

Come on, the shroud’s a fake...a pretty cleaver one too.

[PugetSoundSoldier]

What’s amazing is that many of these “hardcore Christians” hanging on the results of carbon dating to “PROVE!” the Shroud of Turin is really the death shroud of Christ will also immediately dismiss any results of the same carbon dating technique that PROVE - scientifically - that the Earth is more than 6,000 years old...

And I say that as an evangelical Christian. I happen to also be an engineer and scientist, and believe that God gave us the intellect, ability to reason, and our curiosity for a purpose, and that purpose is to learn more about Him. We are to use them to learn about Him not just from the Bible, but from what He created. To not use our minds and curiosity to the full extent we can would be wasting one of the great talents He gave us, as well as forgoing the way we can continue to learn about Him.

[TenthAmendmentChampion]

Ping

[Miss Didi]

I viewed the Shroud during the 1998 Torino Exposition; it was a most moving and unforgettable experience.

[Jedidah]

Who cares?

If it were the authentic burial cloth of Christ, people would just turn it into an idol and start worshipping it.

[Jaded]

ping

[mysterio]

The initial tests of the shroud didn't take into account biofilm, which could have skewed the results to make the material look younger than it actually is. Think of a core fiber wrapped in a layer of dead bacteria, wrapped in a layer of dead bacteria, wrapped in a layer of dead bacteria, etc. with each layer younger than the one it grows on.

[pctech]

The Oxford laboratory that declared the Turin Shroud to be a medieval fake 20 years ago.....

It's fake. Next!

[lonevoice]

ping

[Swordmaker]

It's Shroud of Turin season again... it happens every year before Easter.

The Head of the Oxford lab that did 1/4th of the 1988 C14 tests on the shroud admits the tests might be invalid... but suggests only 2% contamination from something could have skewed the results. His statements and this article ignore the already peer-reviewed findings that show that the 1988 C14 tests are invalid because they tested samples that included between 40 and 60% original Shroud linen mixed with between 60 and 40% 16th Century rewoven material.

My viewpoint is that the Oxford lab will complete their tests (done NOT on Shroud material but on other materials) and conclude their tests were accurate... which they were on what they tested: a melange of old and newer material.

PING!

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[Swordmaker]

"There have been numerous theories purporting to explain how the tests could have produced false results, but so far they have all been rejected by the scientific establishment.

Actually, this statement in the article is not accurate.

Peer reviewed scientific research, published in a prestigious scientific journal, has provided a theory that has been proven to be true... the tests produced false results for the age of the Shroud because they tested a sample that was a mixture of older (perhaps, even most likely First Century) with newer (Probably 16th century patching rewoven into the original) material.

[fatima]

Here’s a nice link with lot’s of info and pics.

http://www.shroudstory.com/