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The Archbishop and Sharia: What Empty Churches Are Made of
Breakpoint with Chuck Colson ^ | 2/25/2008 | Chuck Colson

Posted on 02/25/2008 10:36:41 AM PST by Mr. Silverback

There are an estimated 1.6 million Muslims in Great Britain. By some estimates, more people attend mosque than go to Anglican churches every week. Judging by recent comments by the Archbishop of Canterbury, it is easy to see why.

As most of you by now know, Archbishop Rowan William said in a recent interview that the “UK has to ‘face up to the fact’ that some of its citizens do not relate to the British legal system.” He left no doubt who those “citizens” are: British Muslims.

So according to Williams, British Muslims should not have to choose between “the stark alternatives of cultural loyalty or state loyalty.” Instead, in the tradition of having your cake and eating it too, he proposes finding “a constructive accommodation with some aspects of Muslim law”—in other words, sharia.

British Muslims could choose to have “marital” or “financial” disputes resolved in sharia courts. Sharia courts in Britain? At first I thought the Archbishop misspoke.

But it turns out, no. He calls this “supplementary jurisdiction” unavoidable. He compared it to accommodating Christians in areas like abortion or gay adoption.

With all due respect to the Archbishop, there is no such parallel. The only thing that is unavoidable here is his failure to see sharia as it is practiced in the real world, as opposed to in seminars. As the Asia Times columnist “Spengler” put it, Williams is conceding “a permanent role to extralegal violence in the political life of England.”

In real-world Muslim communities throughout Europe, coercion is so commonplace “that duly-constituted governments there” no longer wield justice among its citizens. The imams do. And where would the Archbishop draw the line? At husbands beating their wives for wearing Western clothes or maybe stoning a woman accused of adultery?

Nor will, as Williams hopes, permitting sharia on British soil aid social cohesion. On the contrary, Williams’s fellow bishop, Michael Nazir-Ali, recently spoke about what he calls “no-go zones” in Muslim communities where Christians dare not enter. As a result of death threats, bishop Nazir-Ali and his family require police protection.

Nazir-Ali, whose father had to leave Pakistan after converting to Christianity, told the UK Telegraph that sharia is “in tension” with “fundamental aspects” of Anglo-American law. That is because our “legal tradition” is “rooted in the quite different moral and spiritual vision deriving from the Bible.” This crucial difference seems to have escaped the Archbishop of Canterbury.

The West’s greatest contribution to civilization has been the rule of law, the bulwark of freedom, captured in Anglo-American jurisprudence. Now a ranking religious official proposes compromising that with a theocratic church rule? Please.

Williams’s comments are a tragic sign of the Church’s weakness. We fawningly respond to Islamic overtures for dialogue, even as we see Christians being persecuted in Muslim nations—and sharia law being imposed on others right in our own backyards.

This weakness is the stuff that empty churches are made of.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: anglicans; breakpoint; charlescolson; coe; crushislam; deathofthewest; eurabia; europeanchristians; islam; rowanwilliams; sharia; sharialaw; ukmuslims
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This weakness is the stuff that empty churches are made of.

And certainly the stuff of an empty gospel.

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1 posted on 02/25/2008 10:36:43 AM PST by Mr. Silverback
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2 posted on 02/25/2008 10:37:34 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (It is not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war.)
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To: Mr. Silverback

If they started preaching the true gospel of Jesus Christ, they’d need several services a week to hold all the seekers of truth! How stupid these church fathers are.


3 posted on 02/25/2008 10:40:38 AM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Most of the churches these days are not religious institutions, but political institutions.


5 posted on 02/25/2008 10:47:39 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: Marysecretary
He compared it to accommodating Christians in areas like abortion or gay adoption.

And when will I see this happen?

6 posted on 02/25/2008 10:47:54 AM PST by 50sDad (Liberals: Never Happy, Never Grateful, Never Right.)
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My problem is not so much that Brits are secular, its that they think that "human rights and democracy" are a great substitute religion.

The only way to deal with Muslims (short of expulsion) is to adopt aggressive secularization a la Kemal Ataturk.

7 posted on 02/25/2008 10:48:59 AM PST by Clemenza (I live in New Jersey for the Same Reason People Slow Down to Look at Car Wrecks)
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To: Mr. Silverback
With all due respect to the Archbishop,...

Why?

8 posted on 02/25/2008 10:50:14 AM PST by Obadiah
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To: Morgana

I’d rather be ruled by druids than Muslims or the abyssmally foolish Archbishop of Canterbury.


10 posted on 02/25/2008 11:03:06 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (It is not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war.)
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To: 50sDad
And when will I see this happen?

Good point...and it should be noted that William's vision of accommadating sharia wouldn't be like accommodating Christians in abortion or gay adoption; it would be like accommadating gay-bashing as long as the thug doing the bashing was a Christian, or did it in an area that had mostly Christian residents.

11 posted on 02/25/2008 11:06:03 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (It is not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war.)
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To: JackRyanCIA

It may be...and I see us on the same track. Something needs to change.


12 posted on 02/25/2008 11:07:11 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (It is not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war.)
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To: Clemenza
How many reasons do the Brits need to deport these misfits from a Christian nation? You can bet that the Moslems will deport the Brits if they get a chance.
13 posted on 02/25/2008 11:13:17 AM PST by ANGGAPO ( is for the oil.)
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To: 50sDad

I didn’t write that, dad.


14 posted on 02/25/2008 11:22:14 AM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: JackRyanCIA

Well, we’ll see about that. God’s not through with them yet either.


15 posted on 02/25/2008 11:22:47 AM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: Clemenza

“My problem is not so much that Brits are secular, its that they think that “human rights and democracy” are a great substitute religion. “

Well said.


16 posted on 02/25/2008 11:24:02 AM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: Morgana

The Archbishop of Canterbury IS a druid! Seriously, he’s a member of some silly club called the “Druids” that goes out and has silly rites here and there. That may explain a few things about him...


17 posted on 02/25/2008 11:49:58 AM PST by livius
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To: ANGGAPO

Britain is a post-Christian nation. Nevertheless, they are still “infidels.”


18 posted on 02/25/2008 11:51:27 AM PST by Clemenza (I live in New Jersey for the Same Reason People Slow Down to Look at Car Wrecks)
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To: Clemenza

“If everything isn’t black and white, I say, “Why the hell not?””

John Wayne quote


19 posted on 02/25/2008 11:56:17 AM PST by Recon Dad (Marine Spec Ops Dad)
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To: Mr. Silverback

All you Christians out there, does this ring a bell? “Stand up, Stand up for Jesus, you soldiers of the cross...” This just isn’t happening because good Biblical teaching and doctrine is being replaced by feel-good morality.


20 posted on 02/25/2008 12:42:14 PM PST by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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