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To accommodate Muslim students, Harvard tries women-only gym hours
The Daily Free Press (Boston U) ^ | 25 feb 08 | Abbie Ruzicka

Posted on 02/25/2008 8:19:03 AM PST by white trash redneck

Harvard University has moved to make Muslim women more comfortable in the gym by instituting women-only access times six hours a week to accommodate religious customs that make it difficult for some students to work out in the presence of men.

Men have not been allowed to enter the Quadrangle Recreational Athletic Center during certain times since Jan. 28, after members of the Harvard Islamic Society and the Harvard Women's Center petitioned the university for a more comfortable environment for women.

Harvard Islamic Society's Islamic Knowledge Committee officer Ola Aljawhary, a junior, said the women-only hours are being tested on a trial basis. The special gym hours will be analyzed over Spring Break to determine if they will continue, she said.

Aljawhary said that she does not believe that the women-only gym hours discriminate against men.

"These hours are necessary because there is a segment of the Harvard female population that is not found in gyms not because they don't want to work out, but because for them working out in a co-ed gym is uncomfortable, awkward or problematic in some way," she said.

Though the policy was in part initiated by the school's Islamic group, Aljawhary said women-only hours are not a case of "minority rights trumping majority preference" and said women of different faiths have showed interest in the hours.

"We live together in one community, it only makes sense for everyone to compromise slightly in order for everyone to live happily," she said. "This matter is simple: Can't we just display basic decency and show tolerance and inclusion for people not a part of the mainstream majority?"

Harvard junior Nick Wells said he believes the women-only hours are inconvenient for the residents that live near the facility and discriminate against men.

"It is unfair to impose a stringent policy that inhibits students from using their own facility in order to further a useless policy that doesn't have any real effect," he said.

"I don't mind that Harvard is trying to give space to women and religious minorities, it's just that it seems that it's not making a real effort," Wells said. "Just one that is impractical and purely symbolic at the cost of people like myself."

Wells lives near the Quad, and said the response to and use of the women-only gym hours so far has been underwhelming.

Harvard freshman Kyle Harasimowicz said women-only gyms have been successful and women-only gym hours fill the same need.

"I guess as long as the time is divvied up fairly, there should be no issue," he said.

Boston University Islamic Society President Mohamed Serageldin said he thinks women-only gym hours would benefit Muslim women at BU.

"Because the FitRec is co-ed, a Muslim woman would most likely be compromising her modesty. He said modesty can be compromised on both the part of the man and the woman when physical action is involved."

BU's Fitness and Recreation Center facilities manager Alex Southall said FitRec's design easily accommodates sectioning off areas for groups.

"It depends on the arrangement with the particular group, so we aren't playing favorites with space, but the FitRec does have the capability to section off for special use," he said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: academia; coeds; crushislam; dhimmitude; harvard; highereducation; islam; islamiclaw; jihadinamerica; liberals; muslimstudents; muslimwomen; sharia; sharialaw; singlesex
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To: white trash redneck

Obviously, Harvard will gladly reduce fees prorated by the number of hours the gym is off-limits for the haram male students.

/sarc


21 posted on 02/25/2008 8:27:22 AM PST by sono (The Future Ain't What It Used To Be - Yogi Berra)
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To: white trash redneck
Good Grief!
John Harvard is spinning in his grave!
22 posted on 02/25/2008 8:28:53 AM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Allegra

When in Rome, do as the Romans do.

But, when in America, force them to accomodate you.


23 posted on 02/25/2008 8:29:47 AM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: sono

It wouldn’t shock me if this was a ruse. Unattractive women have complained for years about mixing men and women in the gym. The men pay attention to the hot women and the unattractive women feel left out. So to end their victimhood, they want separate facilities.

I doubt they have very many Muslim women interested in the gym. Think about it.


24 posted on 02/25/2008 8:30:43 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: neodad
I guess “Separate but Equal” is back.

Never left, the reality is that nothing the left has done creates a situation where people aren't separated into groups. Thats part of the game, its easier to manipulate a group of brain dead multiculturalists than to influence a free man.

25 posted on 02/25/2008 8:32:17 AM PST by Archon of the East (Universal Executive Power of the Law of Nature)
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To: white trash redneck
Men have not been allowed to enter the Quadrangle Recreational Athletic Center during certain times since Jan. 28, after members of the Harvard Islamic Society and the Harvard Women's Center petitioned the university for a more comfortable environment for women.

Apparently the misused notion of "separation of church and sate" doesn't not get enforced when it's about Islam...
26 posted on 02/25/2008 8:33:28 AM PST by Proverbs 3-5
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To: white trash redneck

What? The Harvard Islamic Society and the Harvard Women’s Center can’t afford to equip their own gym? I find that hard to believe.


27 posted on 02/25/2008 8:35:46 AM PST by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country.)
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To: white trash redneck
x salam
28 posted on 02/25/2008 8:37:26 AM PST by egginanest ( "Never interrupt me when I'm trying to interrupt you." -Winston Churchill-)
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To: AppyPappy

At my health club I noticed a head wrapped muslim woman trying to break her taboos, she was like a cat dropped into the pit bull dog pound. They should either go back to their backwards crapholes or be like other fundie religious minorities in this country and stick to themselves.


29 posted on 02/25/2008 8:38:08 AM PST by junta (It's Poltical Correctness stupid! Hold liberals accountable for their actions, a new idea.)
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To: Proverbs 3-5

How do these women attend classes? Do they are rows set aside for them, so they aren’t sitting next to men? How do they interact with male teachers? Questions, questions, questions.


30 posted on 02/25/2008 8:38:57 AM PST by msflea
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To: JimRed

Nope, equal but separate is not equal, its the law! Howard University should know this better than most.


31 posted on 02/25/2008 8:39:04 AM PST by usslsm51
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To: AppyPappy

I’m kinda looking forward to the Cambridge Hooters’ Wet Burqa Night.


32 posted on 02/25/2008 8:39:16 AM PST by sono (The Future Ain't What It Used To Be - Yogi Berra)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast; white trash redneck; wideawake
The left and the muslims were bound to butt heads eventually, and on some matter of sex, predictably. Segregation of women, or exaltation of homosexuality, these are issues on which both sides are intransigent.

But they're not butting heads. The Left opposes the religious taboos of the "antithesis" (the "counterrevolutionary" force) but supports the religious taboos of the "thesis" (the "revolutionary" or "oppressed" force). In fact, even the imposition of religious taboos is considered "revolutionary" and "multicultural" provided that it is the taboos of the "thesis" that are being imposed. Meanwhile, the slightest whiff of government sanction of the religious taboos of the "antithesis" is met with secularist mantras.

Finally the Left supports the very things it once opposed, provided they are being advanced by the "thesis" and not the "antithesis." Baptists want a dirty billboard removed? Those fascists aren't going to tell us what to do in this free country! Catholics object to publicly funded blasphemous artwork? Well, this ain't medieval Spain, sunshine. But when "oppressed, revolutionary" moslems demand that a dirty picture be removed or "blasphemous" artwork be defunded all the "secularists" suddenly switch gears and these things must be done or else we're a "chr*stian theocracy." In fact, they'll somehow use secularist ideology as a justification for it!

The big battle, if there ever is one, will be when moslems start demanding that their kids be exempt from being taught evolution. Now that will be interesting!

33 posted on 02/25/2008 8:40:20 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator ('Elleh hadevarim 'asher-tzivvah HaShem la`asot 'otam.)
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To: knighthawk

Ping

Crush islam


34 posted on 02/25/2008 8:40:52 AM PST by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*RWVA)
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To: neodad

Great thought. If I ran the Harvard student newspaper, that would be my headline tomorrow.


35 posted on 02/25/2008 8:41:12 AM PST by kc8ukw
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To: white trash redneck
"This matter is simple: Can't we just display basic decency and show tolerance and inclusion for people not a part of the mainstream majority?"

They came here to live, in our country. That means they abide by our rules, laws and customs. In other words, assimilate.

36 posted on 02/25/2008 8:41:50 AM PST by EBH ( ... the riotousness of the crowd is always very close to madness. --Alculin c.735-804)
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To: white trash redneck

“members of the Harvard Islamic Society and the Harvard Women’s Center petitioned the university for a more comfortable environment for women.”

Insanity. Harvard was founded as a Christian organization.

They started in the UK with small things, and have almost reached a tipping point there.

We must keep toxic substances out of our culture or our culture will be destroyed as the UK is close to.


37 posted on 02/25/2008 8:45:50 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland ("We have to drain the swamp" George Bush, September 2001)
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To: white trash redneck

As an American, I’d think that PRIVATE INSTITUTIONS could make up their own rules as they see fit.


38 posted on 02/25/2008 8:54:38 AM PST by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment...cut in half during the Clinton years.)
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To: oldenuff2no

Just to be combative:

I don’t see them scheduling classes or exams on Sunday mornings.

Most schools don’t schedule intermural activities or sports on Sunday mornings.

The school probably has a chapel somewhere.

The school is out for all the major Christian holidays.

In my opinion, reasonable accomadation of religion, even those we disagree with, is a rational approach for a public university.

Whether this particular item is reasonable or not remains to be seen.


39 posted on 02/25/2008 8:56:13 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: white trash redneck

A fast workstation the Internet and still I cannot keep up with all the PC rules?

Summers’ remarks on women draw fire - The Boston Globe

http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2005/01/17/summers_remarks_on_women_draw_fire/?page=1

CAMBRIDGE — The president of Harvard University, Lawrence H. Summers, sparked an uproar at an academic conference Friday when he said that innate differences between men and women...

Nancy Hopkins, a biologist at Massachusetts Institute of Technology, walked out on Summers’ talk, saying later that if she hadn’t left, ‘’I would’ve either blacked out or thrown up.”


40 posted on 02/25/2008 8:58:43 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good!)
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