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Primary Voters: Vote against McCain! Vote for deadlock! Vote anyone but McCain!
Feb 9, 2008 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 02/09/2008 11:44:24 AM PST by Jim Robinson

Folks, there still may be a slim chance to force a deadlocked convention. I'm no election math wizard, but I believe it's still mathematically possible for McCain to NOT receive the requisite number of delegates to win the nomination. But it would require a great turnout of passionate conservative voters in the remaining primary states to accomplish.

The trick would be for all remaining primary conservative voters to vote for their favorite candidate as if he were still in the race. Fred's name is still on the ballot. So is Hunter's and Romney's. Shoot, vote for Huckabee, Paul or even Giuliani if you wish. Anyone but McCain!

None of the others can possibly win, but it's still possible for McCain to lose. Let it go to the convention and force the GOP to publicly fight it out as if its very life depended on it. Because it does.

What do we have to lose? As it stands now, more and more conservatives are declaring their intentions to sit out the general. If McCain is our candidate, looks like Hillary/Obama will be our next president. Don't let it happen. Vote for any GOPer other than McCain!


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KEYWORDS: 2008; anyonebutmccain; elections; gopconvention; juanmccain; mccain; mcstain; ourmexicanoverlords; rino; strategy; thelarazacandidate
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To: seekthetruth
Do delegates go to someone who is out of the race if they happen to win a state?

They do if it's Romney - that's why he suspended his campaign rather than withdrawing.

141 posted on 02/09/2008 12:50:38 PM PST by nina0113 (If fences don't work, why does the White House have one?)
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To: Jim Robinson

It’s even more important to truly make sure that all conservative voters do turn out on November 4 to vote for truly conservative candidates for Congress all the way down to the most local levels of political office! Turnout truly needs to be heavy on the conservative side if we all don’t want long-term socialism to take over the U.S. soon!


142 posted on 02/09/2008 12:52:56 PM PST by johnthebaptistmoore (Vote for conservatives AT ALL POLITICAL LEVELS! Encourage all others to do the same on November 4!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Jim

That’s what I was trying to do with my posts for double teaming FRed and Mitt.

I thought, perhaps, it had crossed you somehow, and that’s why my posts we’re being “Reviewed” before being allowed to appear.

I fully support blocking McManiac, in any way, shape, or form.


143 posted on 02/09/2008 12:53:37 PM PST by papasmurf (This space left intentionally blank)
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To: Jim Robinson
Some state by state organization required. As winner take all standard could help McCain with continued split vote. I don’t care who we pick as long as it’s one candidate. It seems to make sense for the Huckster. However with few options I’m certainly open.
144 posted on 02/09/2008 12:53:38 PM PST by joe whit (BROKERED CONVENTION OR BUST!)
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To: Jim Robinson

I need help with these questions.

Wouldn’t it be best to vote for Huckabee to let him take the delegates from McCain?

Do those candidates who left the race still receive delegates if the state isn’t a winner take all state?

Since Fred said to rally behind McCain because he is the presumed nominee mean Fred’s 8 delegates go to McCAin?

I am all for making McCain lose on the convention floor, it that is possible!


145 posted on 02/09/2008 12:54:39 PM PST by seekthetruth
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To: All

Huckabee Takes Early Lead in Kansas GOP Caucuses

http://www.wibw.com/home/headlines/15478046.html

Huck 61%
McCain 24%
as of 2:43 PM


146 posted on 02/09/2008 12:55:06 PM PST by NickFlooding (Canceling out liberal votes since 1972.)
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To: definitelynotaliberal
The liberal media weren’t the only ones trashing Romney.

Romney is a typical Massachusetts liberal.

147 posted on 02/09/2008 12:55:22 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Jim Robinson
The math says that McCain will be hard to stop. It's possible I guess but the remaining states would have to vote in an order such that McCain would be kept under the 492 delegates he currently needs to win. Not sure the combinations needed to do that as it would depend upon type of allocations in each state. Also the state party allocations usually go as unpledged so who knows how they'd voted, party line I'd guess.

Summary .

1274 delegates remaining before LA votes today. 1191 needed to win.

McCain .. 699 delegates .. Needs 492 [38% of remaining available]

Here's the running scoreboard to date and future events.....

Pledged and Unpledged Delegate Summary


 
Republican Party Republican
Pledged and Unpledged Delegate Summary
Alphabetically by State

 
2,516 total delegates - 560 base at-large / 1,305 re: 435 congressional districts / 168 party / 483 bonus
Pledged/Unpledged delegates: 1,798 pledged, 582 unpledged.
Need to nominate: 1,191.
Rank (sort)
State
Romney, M
(175)
Huckabee, M
(179)
McCain, J
(699)
(available)
(1,274)
Uncommitted
(20)
Paul, R
(21)
Hunter, D
(1)
Thompson, F
(11)
Allocation
(sort)
Pl
(118)
(sort)
Unpl
(57)
(sort)
Pl
(156)
(sort)
Unpl
(23)
(sort)
Pl
(683)
(sort)
Unpl
(16)
(sort)
Pl
(816)
(sort)
Unpl
(458)
(sort)
Pl
(20)
Unpl
(0)
(sort)
Pl
(5)
(sort)
Unpl
(16)
Pl
(0)
(sort)
Unpl
(1)
Pl
(0)
(sort)
Unpl
(11)
(sort)
Pl
(sort)
Unpl
(sort)
Total
1 Alabama     20   16   9 3                 45 3 48
2 Alaska   12   6   3 0 3       5           29 29
3 American Samoa             6 3                 6 3 9
4 Arizona         50     3                 50 3 53
5 Arkansas 1   29   1     3                 31 3 34
6 California 12       158     3                 170 3 173
7 Colorado             0 46                   46 46
8 Connecticut         27     3                 27 3 30
9 Delaware         18     0                 18   18
10 District of Columbia             16 3                 16 3 19
11 Florida         57                       57   57
12 Georgia     45   3   24 0                 72   72
13 Guam             6 3                 6 3 9
14 Hawaii             20 0                 20   20
15 Idaho             26 6                 26 6 32
16 Illinois 2       54   1 13                 57 13 70
17 Indiana             27 30                 27 30 57
18 Iowa   10   13   5   3       4       5   40 40
19 Kansas             36 3                 36 3 39
20 Kentucky             45 0                 45   45
21 Louisiana             20 27                 20 27 47
22 Maine   10   1   4 0 3       3           21 21
23 Maryland             34 3                 34 3 37
24 Massachusetts 22       18     3                 40 3 43
25 Michigan     3   7     0 20               30   30
26 Minnesota             0 41                   41 41
27 Mississippi             36 3                 36 3 39
28 Missouri         58     0                 58   58
29 Montana 25             0                 25   25
30 Nebraska             30 3                 30 3 33
31 Nevada   17   3   4   3       4       3   34 34
32 New Hampshire 4   1   7     0                 12   12
33 New Jersey         52     0                 52   52
34 New Mexico             29 3                 29 3 32
35 New York         87     14                 87 14 101
36 North Carolina             69 0                 69   69
37 North Dakota 8   5   5     3     5           23 3 26
38 Northern Marianas             0 9                   9 9
39 Ohio             0 88                   88 88
40 Oklahoma     6   32     3                 38 3 41
41 Oregon             27 3                 27 3 30
42 Pennsylvania             0 74                   74 74
43 Puerto Rico             20 3                 20 3 23
44 Rhode Island             17 3                 17 3 20
45 South Carolina     6   18     0                 24   24
46 South Dakota             24 3                 24 3 27
47 Tennessee 8   23   15   6 3                 52 3 55
48 Texas             137 3                 137 3 140
49 Utah 36             0                 36   36
50 Vermont             17 0                 17   17
51 Virgin Islands             6 3                 6 3 9
52 Virginia             63 0                 63   63
53 Washington             19 21                 19 21 40
54 West Virginia     18       9 3                 27 3 30
55 Wisconsin             37 3                 37 3 40
56 Wyoming   8         0 2           1   3   14 14
Convention 118 57 156 23 683 16 816 458 20 0 5 16 0 1 0 11 1,798 582 2,380
 

Pl: Pledged or Bound Delegates.
Unpl: Unpledged or Not Bound Delegates

 
 

Last Modified: Sat Feb 9 14:31:34 CST 2008



148 posted on 02/09/2008 12:55:47 PM PST by deport ( -- Cue Spooky Music --)
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To: johnthebaptistmoore
Isn't Ron Paul the most conservative in this race?

Why are true conservatives on this forum not voting for him?

149 posted on 02/09/2008 12:56:35 PM PST by BARLF
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To: Jim Robinson; All
Linking the state delegate count & primary dates with the former table. Analysis on it's way...Any other finance people on the thread start analyzing data, if you wish while I give it a shot.
DATE STATE # DELEGATES
FEB 9 KANSAS 39
FEB 9 LOUISIAN A 47
FEB 9 WASHINGTON 40
FEB 12 DC 19
FEB 12 MARYLAND 37
FEB 12 VIRGINIA 63
FEB 16 GUAM 9
FEB 19 WISCONSIN 40
FEB 23 AMERICAN SAMOA 9
MAR 4 OHIO 88
MAR 4 RHODE ISLAND 20
MAR 4 TEXAS 140
MAR 4 VERMONT 17
MAR 11 MISSISSIPPI 39
APR 5 VIRGIN ISLANDS 9
APR 22 PENNSYLVANIA 74
MAY 6 INDIANA 57
MAY 6 NORTH CAROLINA 69
MAY 17 HAWAII 20
MAY 20 KENTUCKY 45
MAY 20 OREGON 30
MAY 27 IDAHO 32
JUNE 3 NEW MEXICO 32
JUNE 3 SOUTH DAKOTA 27
JULY 12 NEBRASKA 33

150 posted on 02/09/2008 12:57:36 PM PST by callisto (CONGRESS.SYS corrupted...Re-boot Washington DC (Y/N)?)
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To: Eaker

Eak...
I hate McCain’s stance on illegals as much as you do. But is Hillary or Obama gonna be any better on the borders than McCain? Is Hillary or Obama gonna be better on the RKBA? Or Iraq or the War on Terror? Or taxes? or the Budget? How about gays in the military? Everybody is saying to Hell with McCain, I understand the idea, but maybe if Hillary or Obama get elected, there aint gonna be any America to take back in 2012.

Just the other day, you had the HEAD of the Church of England endorse acceptance of some parts of sharia law for godsakes. What if we have another attack that makes 9/11 look like child’s play? Do you trust Hillary or Obama to make the right call? I dont like McCain but I trust him in that situation alot more than I trust those two.


151 posted on 02/09/2008 12:58:05 PM PST by a_dem_no_more (I dont like McCain, but I like Hillary and Obama less)
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To: don-o

Authorized? Uh...I dunno...


152 posted on 02/09/2008 12:58:07 PM PST by callisto (CONGRESS.SYS corrupted...Re-boot Washington DC (Y/N)?)
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To: deport

Thanks for the post!


153 posted on 02/09/2008 1:00:03 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: KansasGirl
http://ksgopcaucus.org/results.htm

LOL, Your post crashed their server.
154 posted on 02/09/2008 1:01:45 PM PST by papasmurf (This space left intentionally blank)
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To: deport; callisto

Nice job to you both, thanks!


155 posted on 02/09/2008 1:01:54 PM PST by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I agree; gives ABM a whole new meaning - Anybody But McCain.


156 posted on 02/09/2008 1:02:20 PM PST by Truth29
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To: Jim Robinson
I am proud to say I finally got a chance to vote for a real conservative today. Duncan Hunter! Didn't count for a damn thing but it sure felt good. Hopefully in the future I'll get another chance to do the same again. You know, like voting for Bobby Jindal for POtUS. Y'all give that some thought and see how it feels and maybe real soon you can be proud of your vote again.


157 posted on 02/09/2008 1:02:57 PM PST by sinclair (Big game hunter. Specializing in RINO's.)
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To: All; Jim Robinson
Oh heck...I need a FRink! My hand actually aches after coding those tables so I'm going to get another Heine from the 'fridge and let you guys look at the data for a few (I have to do this every day...LOL) If no one has an analysis by the time I can FRink aone beer I'm back on the case.

So here are both tables to date. Let me now your thoughts...

TOTAL 1191 TO WIN - TOTAL OUTSTANDING 1035
CANDIDATE # PLEDGED # UNPLEDGED COMBINED TOTAL # NEEDED % NEEDED
MCCAIN 697 17 714 477 46.10%
HUCKABEE 178 3 181 1010 97.58%
PAUL 16 0 16 1175 113.5%
ROMNEY 286 0 286 905 87.43%


DATE STATE # DELEGATES
FEB 9 KANSAS 39
FEB 9/td> LOUISIAN A 47
FEB 9 WASHINGTON 40
FEB 12 DC 19
FEB 12 MARYLAND 37
FEB 12 VIRGINIA 63
FEB 16 GUAM 9
FEB 19 WISCONSIN 40
FEB 23 AMERICAN SAMOA 9
MAR 4 OHIO 88
MAR 4 RHODE ISLAND 20
MAR 4 TEXAS 140
MAR 4 VERMONT 17
MAR 11 MISSISSIPPI 39
APR 5 VIRGIN ISLANDS 9
APR 22 PENNSYLVANIA 74
MAY 6 INDIANA 57
MAY 6 NORTH CAROLINA 69
MAY 17 HAWAII 20
MAY 20 KENTUCKY 45
MAY 20 OREGON 30
MAY 27 IDAHO 32
JUNE 3 NEW MEXICO 32
JUNE 3 SOUTH DAKOTA 27
JULY 12 NEBRASKA 33

158 posted on 02/09/2008 1:04:33 PM PST by callisto (CONGRESS.SYS corrupted...Re-boot Washington DC (Y/N)?)
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To: Dane
Ain’t my website, but I think that Clint Eastwood is right, you all are masochists.

You must be in heaven. All three remaining candidates will open up the southern border and let every illegal have his way. Your dream come true.

159 posted on 02/09/2008 1:05:30 PM PST by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: deport

Where did you copy that from? I actually coded that stuff by hand. LOL!


160 posted on 02/09/2008 1:06:06 PM PST by callisto (CONGRESS.SYS corrupted...Re-boot Washington DC (Y/N)?)
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