Posted on 02/07/2008 6:29:17 PM PST by Checkers
Are there any Freepers who support John McCain?
If you support Mr. McCain, can you make the case for your man?
Can you make the case without bringing up the War?
Can you make the case without bringing up Judges?
Can you make the case without using any ACU ratings? (Those don't impress anybody.)
Can you make the case without insults or telling people to "calm down"?
Can you make the case without the type of lying and dishonesty we've come to expect from John McCain and his special friend Mike Huckabee?
Can you make the case without trashing Barack Obama?
Can you make the case without using Hillary Rodham Clinton as some kind of boogyman or boogyperson?
Can you?
The ball is in your court.
juan may die soon as he is not the healthiest guy in the world so I guess the vip would be more important than normally
But I'll play along in your room:
The earmark pledge. McCain is a spending hawk. Has been for as long as I've paid attention to politics (late 80s). Fiscal restraint was once a hallmark of the GOP. It served it well during the '80s and well into the 104th and 105th. Budgetary restraint is a proper framework for discussing policy and legislation and it would behoove the GOP to regain the mantle of fiscal conservatism. I honestly think that a McCain presidency would help rein in the Rep caucus in congress and help it shed its relatively recent reputation for being as bad on pork as the Dems. This is not a small issue and should not be for any conservative. Under your rules, I cannot bring up the opposition's record and stance which are very appropriate to discuss.
He's pro-life. He's opposed to partial birth abortion. He's voted to prevent federal funding of Planned Parenthood. He's voted against federal funding for the distribution of abortifacient pills in public schools. And he's consistently made the case. Under your rules, I cannot bring up the opposition's record and stance which are very appropriate to discuss.
He supports school choice. I, personally, am not completely onboard with this issue, but it is huge with conservatives. Under your rules, I cannot bring up the opposition's record and stance which are very appropriate to discuss.
You don't want any of us to discuss ACU ratings, but here's NARAL's rating for McCain: 0% pro-abort. AFL-CIO's? 17% pro-union. Under your rules, I cannot bring up the opposition's record and stance which are very appropriate to discuss.
He's never voted to raise taxes. Under your rules, I cannot bring up the opposition's record and stance which are very appropriate to discuss.
He is opposed to the Dem's attempts to reinstate the "Fairness Doctrine." Under your rules, I cannot bring up the opposition's record and stance which are very appropriate to discuss. Under your rules, I cannot bring up the opposition's record and stance which are very appropriate to discuss.
He neither supports nor advocates nationalizing the medical and pharmaceutical industries. Under your rules, I cannot bring up the opposition's record and stance which are very appropriate to discuss. Under your rules, I cannot bring up the opposition's record and stance which are very appropriate to discuss.
He touches the supposed third-rail of politics and advocates privatizing that untouchable Ponzi scheme known as Social Security. Under your rules, I cannot bring up the opposition's record and stance which are very appropriate to discuss.
Care for me to continue?
Thanks a hell of a lot for electing the Democrats this fall.”
If you vote for McCain, you’re electing the democraps.
Unfortunately mccain is a liar. hannity let some dude get away with the “i was against tax cuts without reducing spending” when it was actually “tax cuts for the rich”.
Good thing that the GOP has people like you to kiss their butts.
If you think McCaine is bad, what will you get shoved down your throat next election cycle?
Keep doing what you’re doing and you’ll keep getting what your getting.
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I have lived in AZ for almost 20 years. I have never (EVER) met one person who supported or even ‘kinda’ liked McCain. Not one.
I was totally shocked by the votes. I don’t know where they came from - but they sure don’t come from any circles I have ever encountered.
I would be interested in seeing a case for McCain that doesn’t enlist the dem candidates. Any honest case for this man that doesn’t rely on fear of the dems.
I wouldn’t find it persuasive, but I would be interested in seeing it.
Like I’ve said before. Some on the right have joined the “let them eat cake” RINOs.
I would vote for Ted Kennedy if he were the nominee and running against Hillary.
Happily.
lol...pretty safe vote when you know it is gonna pass anyway.
look, he will keep the troops in iraq and not bring them home in 6 months...if a jackass gets in that WILL happen, THINK hard about what that would mean!!!!!!!!!
Letting the Democrats win the White House wont punish McCain. It will punish my Country, my family, and the troops fighting the war. Denying McCain the white house isnt a punishment. Having Obama or Hillary pick SCOTUS judges and loose the WOT punishes America.
Newsweak won’t let you link. They only released his war records declaring that he’s sane after Viet Nam. It’s an article called “What These Eyes Have Seen”.
I do not support McCain, but I can tell you why I liked him more than Romney.
I am first and foremost a social conservative. Issues like the Second Amendment, Right to Life, traditional marriage, and family values are right now more important to me than small government, lower taxes and illegal immigration.
McCain has been solidly pro-life for 25 years. Although his record is not spotless, he has for the most part opposed gun control. And he does not support special rights for gays. ALL these were issues where Mitt Romney flipped.
I NEED conservative judges and justices. I was less likely to get them from a flipper.
Having said that, I would have voted for Romney without any problem if he got the nomination. Any of our candidates are better on any issue than the ‘Rats.
You don’t like McCain on illegal immigration? You think you would like Hillary more?
You don’t like McCain on entitlements? You think you would like Obama more?
Anyway, sorry I digressed.
The point is simple. Romney, McCain, and Huckabee are conservatives! But they are also all flawed in some areas. None of them are “as conservative as we would like.” None of them are “totally conservative.”
None of them unite the Reagan coalition of fiscal conservatives, social conservatives, and foreign policy conservatives.
Generally speaking the fiscal conservatives were behind Romney, the social conservatives are behind Huckabee, and the foreign policy conservatives are behind McCain.
Why is McCain winning? Conventional wisdom is that it is because he also draws in the indepedents and so-called “moderates.” But I have another theory.
I live in arguably the most Evangelical community in the country — Wheaton, IL. The home of Wheaton College (motto “For Christ and His Kingdom” and alma mater to Billy Graham). We have more churches than restaurants, gas stations and 7-Elevens combined. We voted last Tuesday and turnout was huge — I have never seen so many senior citizens at the polls ever, and it was snowing! And McCain carried our community with 56% of the vote. McCain beat Huckabee in the capitol of Evangelicalism!
You see, I think it is all the Seniors and Vietnam vets voting for McCain. Constituencies usually more likely to vote Democrat.
That hurts the ‘Rats. That is good for McCain. That is good for us. That is good for me getting my conservative judges and justices.
That’s HALF pro-life (or maybe pro half-life) with his support for embryonic stem cell research. It is just another form of abortion, with a topping of cannibalism to make it even more despicable - like the senator who supports ESC but STILL claims to be pro-life.
Orrin Hatch is another so-called conservative with a half-baked attitude about life issues - anti-abortion, but pro-ESC and lackadaisical on other, equally critical life issues, such as the Terri Schaivo case.
Yeah, I give him partial credit on abortion - not 100%, because of his expressed opposition to overturning Roe, but that is not enough to call himself pro-life.
Because anyone with sense realizes it will be a two person race in the General, and a vote for McCain is a vote against the Dem candidate.
Anything else is a bunch of crybabies talking.
that’s giving a vote to the jackasses
What’s your point?
keating 5 ROFL
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