Are You Willing To Compromise & Surrender What Our Founding Fathers Set Forth For This Republic?

me | February 3, 2003 | callisto

[callisto]

Honor, justice, and humanity, forbid us tamely to surrender that freedom which we received from our gallant ancestors, and which our innocent posterity have a right to receive from us. We cannot endure the infamy and guilt of resigning succeeding generations to that wretchedness which inevitably awaits them if we basely entail hereditary bondage on them.
- Thomas Jefferson, Declaration of the Causes and Necessities of Taking up Arms, July 6, 1775

Many of us were hoping for a truly Conservative candidate to be our nominee, but Hunter, Tancredo and Thompson made their exits and those who remain are less than substandard by comparison. Some of us are willing to support whomever the Republican nominee may be. I was recently asked if I was willing to compromise my Conservative values and principles to support the nomination of a less than worthy candidate in order to defeat what I think may be the worse destruction leveled on this great nation: the election of Clinton or Obama to the Presidency.

Initially, I understood the question posed but I failed to see the truth behind the question. Fortunately, DoughtyOne, posted a thread asking just how willing we are to compromise those values with a great analogy as to the ramifications of such a compromise. I won’t restate DO’s words as he said them so well himself, but the meaning behind those words have reverberated in my mind since and left me asking myself, “How many of us realize the compromises we are about to make this coming Tuesday?” The more I read and posted on threads this week, the more I realized that many of us are willing to make that compromise without regard to the intent and principles of our Founding Fathers when they created this great nation in which we are fortunate to live.

Our Founding Fathers were eloquent spokesmen on the founding principles of self-government who believed in Liberty, Freedom, Justice and Equality. They believed that Wisdom, Knowledge and Virtue were necessary for the preservation of those rights and liberties. With a stirring language, that reaches the depths of one’s soul, they wrote one of the greatest documents in history which changed the face of this world forever. When they undertook to sign their names to the document they risked their own pursuit of life and happiness to grant us the ability to know and live under the principles they valued most. To denounce the king’s authority was an act of treason, punishable by death, yet 56 determined men picked up quill and ink to sign the Declaration of Independence risking their lives, fortunes, family and all that they held dear.

So I ask each of you, are you willing to give up all that these men gave for so little in return? Because if we refuse to stand up for what is right and principled when given the choice, we will deserve what we receive for accepting what has been handed to us. To many of you I am preaching to the choir, but to others I hope you will read this post and consider the principles on which our nation was founded, and the effects of relinquishing those tenets. Before you go to the polls on Tuesday, consider exactly what is at stake when you cast your vote.

In the words of Samuel Adams, 1781:

Let each citizen remember at the moment he is offering his vote that he is not making a present or a compliment to please an individual - or at least that he ought not so to do; but that he is executing one of the most solemn trusts in human society for which he is accountable to God and his country.

[Gilbo_3]

He is better then any of the Dems, you know it and I know it, MUCH BETTER!

Actually, you are entitled to that opinion, but everytime Ive held my nose in the past and chosen the lesser of evil, guess what ?

I still chose EVIL ... NO longer will that happen...

Anyone who stands by and lets the Dems take the Presidency is a traitor and enemy of America

Actually again, that rhetoric will no longer fly as Ive come to believe that ANY watering down of the core moral principles that I expect from leaders who would swear to uphold our Constitution, is the treasonous vote.

We must vote for the right values and let God sort out the details...

LFOD...

[Gilbo_3]

vote your concience, if its 'none of the above' then at least you did your part...

LFOD...

[Gilbo_3]

aside the msm blackballing, any REAL grassroots knowledge of Paul regarding foreign policy? Pro American isolationism isnt my dreamed of quality in a CIC, but Constitutionally speaking, I see a real conservative that might save us from the invasion at home, as well as actually work to roll back infringments on the citizens for a 'change'...

LFOD...

[EternalVigilance]

Dr. Alan Keyes, the man who most closely mirrors the principles and intellect of the Founders in this generation, will be on your NC ballot.

So, because of the grassroots efforts of conservatives across America, no one will be able to claim that they did not have a choice.

[B-Chan]

I will never vote for Juan McAmnesty.

[John Leland 1789]

” . . . the people will have the government they deserve.”

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I believe that to be a true statement, generally.

The people of the USA surrendered the principles of the founding fathers, actually, many a president and many a Congress ago.

[sport]

For a number of years now we have been overrun with them.

This year we have a bumper crop.

[Cold Heat]

The reason I posted to you was that you embedded a quote into your post without adequate flags to let me know that it was someone else who was hawking McCain and believed that this article supported their stupidity.

Sorry about that.......

[Hat-Trick]

"And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with his wrath? Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just: that his justice cannot sleep for ever."

That very quote, alongside his picture, hangs next to the door entering my office. I will not vote for either McCain or Romney under any circumstance. I will likely write in someone else.

In both parties combined we have (4) "electable" (note, I did not say desirable) candidates left, who share at least two common denominators. (1) They will all say anything necessary to win votes and get elected, and (2) There isn't a conservative among them. Unfortunately, there are few differences between them on the issues that matter to me - immigration, gun rights, taxes, and limited government. I make these judgements based on what they've done as elected officials and what they've said as they have sought election.

Romney - In my book once a flip-flopper, always a flip-flopper, and flip-floppers aren't fit for duty. Gubernatorial candidate Romney is a different guy than presidential candidate Romney. Even if I could take him at his (recently more conservative) word, I'm still convinced that Romney isn't packing the gear necessary to address the issues that will confront our nation.

McCain - He just doesn't have the temperment. I'll predict he will close Gitmo, end terrorist interrogations, grant legal status and protections to terrorists who don't even deserve the protections of the Geneva Convention, fail to close our borders, all of the above making our country weaker in the eyes of our enemies and more susceptible to their plans for attack. And I can never look past how often he has "reached across the aisle" to the detriment of our constitutionally enumerated rights.

So, no, I'm not willing to compromise and surrender by choosing a "lesser evil" just because their name on the ballot is followed by (R).

[NoGrayZone]

No Problem =)

[callisto]

I like McCain. He is an independent thinker quite like myself who doesn’t follow blindly. I like the fact that he has not agreed with Bush on everything. Neither have I at times.

I have not agreed with President Bush on every decision he has made, but I will say that there have been many days (911 for example) when I thanked God that he was in the Oval Office. But may I ask why, if you are an independent thinker you have not noticed that when McCain does not agree with Bush he DOES agree with the liberal Democrats and votes accordingly? I am a Conservative, not necessarily a Republican. I have always voted Republican, but I have come to realize that not all Republicans are Conservative and that is something that I must deal with this election cycle.

[callisto]

It is our DUTY to speak our hearts and stay in the Good fight...

I concur wholeheartedly. Much has been sacrificed to provide us the opportunity to elect our representation and that is something that I do not take lightly.

[callisto]

Thank you for your comment. You gave me the opportnity to read your page and, I hope you don't mind, borrow a bit of excellent Conservative oratory that belongs on this thread.

Dr. Alan Keyes:

"The elites in this country are betraying us, destroying our Constitution, giving up our sovereign rights, and having total contempt for what should be the sovereign role of the people.

I think people are going to have to work, themselves, to get it back.

This is not going to be given them by a godless media, by abortion-minded moneybags who only look for their own profit. If people want to be free, they are going to have to get up and work for it."

[Gilbo_3]

Well stated...

[American Butterfly]

I don’t mind whether he votes with Liberals or Conservatives or whether how many times he has done it. McCain votes the way he needs to. I respect that.

[callisto]

What I CAN’T respect is someone who chooses to maintain a party affiliation only because he perceives it to be his best opportunity to run for President. His record is too liberal.